THE PENGUIN Showrunner Shares Season 2 Update; Confirms More THE BATMAN Spin-Offs Are In The Works

THE PENGUIN Showrunner Shares Season 2 Update; Confirms More THE BATMAN Spin-Offs Are In The Works

The Penguin showrunner Lauren LeFranc has shared a vaguely optimistic update on a second season of the acclaimed HBO series, while conforming plans for more The Batman spin-off shows...

By MarkCassidy - May 29, 2025 08:05 AM EST
Filed Under: The Batman

The Penguin proved to be a big hit for HBO and Warner Bros./DC Studios, and was met with rare levels of acclaim and awards recognition for a comic book-based project. With this in mind, a second season would seem like a foregone conclusion, but The Penguin happens to find itself in an unusual position.

Now officially listed as a limited series, The Penguin serves as a set-up for Matt Reeves' The Batman sequel, which we haven't had any official updates on in quite a while (production is expected to commence early next year, but this has yet to be confirmed). Reports indicate that the movie's script hasn't even been completed yet, which likely hinders any potential movement on The Penguin season 2.

There's also the question of whether star Colin Farrell will even want to return as Oz Cobb. Though the actor is expected to appear in The Batman sequel, he didn't sound too overjoyed at the prospect of donning the prosthetics again during a 2024 interview.

“I don’t know, man. Don’t get me wrong – I loved it – but it got in on me a little bit. By the end of it, I was bitching and moaning to anyone who would listen to me that I f*cking wanted it to be finished. I tried to remind them that I had ‘grumpy gratitude.’ I was still grateful, and still honored – I grew up watching Burgess Meredith [who played the role in the ’60s TV series], and then Danny DeVito [in Tim Burton’s 1992 film ‘Batman Returns’] was my Penguin – so being a part of the lineage of that storytelling, I really did feel privileged. But by the end of it…”

"f you take what Matt Reeves created and then what Lauren [LeFranc, showrunner] did and what Mike [Marino, prosthetics and make-up designer] did and put them all together, it was a really powerful experience,” he continued. “Lauren said, ‘Look, if I could find a way that makes sense, would you talk about it?’ And I said, ‘Absolutely.’ And maybe in a year I would. But when I finished I was like, ‘I never want to put that f*cking suit and that f*cking head on again.'”

While appearing as a guest on Deadline's Crew Call podcast, showrunner Lauren LeFranc was asked for an update on the status of a second season, and revealed that she's "in the process of exploring what that would be, if there will be more."

"Beyond Colin, it depends on whether there's a story that we can make richer than what we’ve already done," LeFranc went on, appearing to confirm that she does have a season 2 story in mind. "I fully arced everything."

LeFranc also confirmed that subsequent The Batman spin-offs are "in early stages" of development, but didn't reveal any details. Reeves has previously hinted that a legal drama focusing on Harvey Dent, aka Two-Face, might be one possibility, however.

The Penguin also stars Cristin Milioti (Sofia Falcone), Rhenzy Feliz (Victor Aguilar), Michael Kelly (Johnny Viti), Shohreh Aghdashloo (Nadia Maroni), Deirdre O’Connell (Francis Cobb), Clancy Brown (Salvatore Maroni), James Madio (Milos Grapa), Scott Cohen (Luca Falcone), Michael Zegen (Alberto Falcone), Carmen Ejogo (Eve Karlo), and Theo Rossi (Dr. Julian Rush).

The eight-episode DC Studios drama series continues The Batman epic crime saga that filmmaker Matt Reeves began with Warner Bros. Pictures’ global blockbuster The Batman, and centers on the character played by Farrell in the film.

The series is executive produced by Matt Reeves, Dylan Clark, Colin Farrell, Lauren LeFranc, who writes and serves as showrunner, Craig Zobel, who directs the first three episodes, and Bill Carraro. Based on characters created for DC by Bob Kane with Bill Finger, the show is produced by Reeves’ 6th & Idaho Productions and Dylan Clark Productions in association with Warner Bros. Television, where Reeves and 6th & Idaho are under an overall deal. Daniel Pipski also serves as executive producer.

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MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/29/2025, 8:30 AM
First!

Jessica Chastain as Poison Ivy?
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 5/29/2025, 9:21 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea -

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Now THIS is a group of talented actresses that I could get behind... no pun intended. 😏😐🤨

Keep the story on point, and this may continue to be the best live piece of work put out by DC since TDK.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 5/29/2025, 8:53 AM
She did fully arc everything. The conclusion of S1 was perfectly rounded with the rest of the season. It perfectly concluded. Maybe a spin-off featuring Sofia breaking out of Arkham and teaming up with Selina would be good. Maybe set in the DCU if the Reevesverse becomes a non-sequitur.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 5/29/2025, 9:26 AM
@ObserverIO - Good point, and an excellent segway to continue the story. I think Hollywood executives play things too safe to move on like that, but damn- it'd be nice if they did.

No technical season two. Just make the next season:

The Falcones.


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Polaris
Polaris - 5/29/2025, 10:18 AM
@ObserverIO - A spin-off with Sofia and Selina it's exactly whst I'm hoping for
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 5/29/2025, 9:17 AM
Remember how they used 'Picard: Season 3' to give us a nuanced and emotionally fitting end to the characters from Star Trek: Next Generation? So much better than we would ever have received from a commerce-chasing, action movie where each actor was lucky to get line of dialogue per half-hour of screen time?

My bet?

They wait a bit longer but ultimately pay-off Reeves. They give Farrell and Pattinson a big(ger) payday - and they use Season 2 of the Penguin to conclude events from The Batman.

Unless ... Superman bombs.

Then all the money is on a (Reeves-world) Batman sequel.



MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/29/2025, 9:53 AM
@BillyBatson1000 -

Supermeh and The Batguano franchise should both bomb and be dumped in the trash where they belong.
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 5/29/2025, 9:57 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea - Are you OK man? You seem not to be. This every day.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/29/2025, 9:20 AM
Throw The Batman franchise in the garbage.

The raceswapping has tainted it.

James Gordon is White.

Selina Kyle is White.

And fentanyl Joker is no bueno.

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JosephStalin
JosephStalin - 5/29/2025, 9:39 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea - that's a shame. I was on board with the Jessica Chastain fancast. Catwoman has been portrayed as black and white in different iterations since at least the 1960s. Zoe Kravitz even looks like how she was drawn in Hush. Jim Gordon being white isn't integral to his character, but I'm not aware of an earlier precedent for that one.
AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 5/29/2025, 9:42 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea - When you say things like this it really taints the Trump supporters as a whole. Please change your name if you are going to continue to be this arrogantly idiotic. You don't fit with the MAGA group with that sort of rhetoric. Jeffrey Wright is an extremely talented actor and we were lucky he was able to give us a grounded James Gordon.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/29/2025, 9:59 AM
@bobevanz -

What if I did?

Don't you know cyber bullying and goading people into self deletion is passé and frowned upon?
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/29/2025, 10:02 AM
@JosephStalin -

Isn't it convenient that no White character must stay White, and no black character can ever be raceswapped?

Why is it like that?

🤔
JosephStalin
JosephStalin - 5/29/2025, 10:02 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea - I agree with you here, we can go back and forth on opinions and argue about that but advising people to imbibe detergent, even frivolously, is not appropriate or responsible.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/29/2025, 10:05 AM
@JosephStalin -

"Catwoman has been portrayed as black and white in different iterations since at least the 1960s."

Well shoot, if Catwoman has been raceswapped for over 55 years, it's high time that we raceswap Storm.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/29/2025, 10:09 AM
@AgentofSH1ELD -

His performance was shlocky.

Not grounded.

Who are some of the most talented White actresses?

One of them should play a grounded Storm (no pun intended).

I didn't say anything idiotic.

I said what many other people should be saying.

It's not idiotic or controversial to state the obvious that characters are who they are.
JosephStalin
JosephStalin - 5/29/2025, 10:09 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea - did you ever see the Spawn movie? They cast SB Sweeney as Terry Fitzgerald. I think that's why it doesn't happen anymore. Although Bane was South American in the comics and played by a white guy in Dark Knight Rises. Was that an issue?
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/29/2025, 10:11 AM
@JosephStalin -

"I agree with you here, we can go back and forth on opinions and argue about that but advising people to imbibe detergent, even frivolously, is not appropriate or responsible."

Thank you. I appreciate it.
JosephStalin
JosephStalin - 5/29/2025, 10:14 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea - her ethnicity is a pretty big part of her origin though. Like you couldn't race swap Batman because of his social and economic position (at least when it was originally established). Race swapping Magneto would be tricky too, because his ethnicity is obviously a huge part of how he was treated and how he processed that. I do hear people arguing that you could swap out one oppression for another to update him, but I'm not sure you could. I think you run the risk of undermining both and making the result appear cynical. So I think there times when it matters, and times when it really doesn't.
JosephStalin
JosephStalin - 5/29/2025, 10:16 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea - you're welcome. I'll challenge people on their beliefs and maybe even be a little rude now and then but even I have boundaries!
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/29/2025, 10:27 AM
@JosephStalin -

I have seen Spawn a handful or two of times.

I didn't know D.B. Sweeney played a black character.

Bane in The Dark Knight Rises may be South American.

Charlize Theron and Elon Musk are Africans.

In the comics, Bane's dad is a blonde White man.

If anyone has a picture of Bane's mom, please share it.

Bane in his first comics appearances, masked and unmasked, looks like a White man.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/29/2025, 10:28 AM
@JosephStalin -

"you're welcome. I'll challenge people on their beliefs and maybe even be a little rude now and then but even I have boundaries!"

That's good.

Same for me.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/29/2025, 10:31 AM
@JosephStalin -

It just seems like most of the time certain people are okay with most or all White characters being raceswapped

But they never want any non White characters to be raceswapped.

That is antiwhiteism.
AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 5/29/2025, 10:34 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea - I have had this argument many times. I agree the majority of characters should be portrayed the way they were written. Its an unfortunate fact that the majority of these characters we love were created in a time where black people were still under represented, if not persecuted. Thats one of the reasons the majority of the characters in comics are white and not other races. Now, you have the black panthers and luke cages but it travels far beyond comic books.
Should Bruce Wayne be portrayed as a black man? probably not. but they way they get around this is taking sub-main characters and race swapping those- providing the representation without detrimental harm.
The main issue is, sometimes you take things too much or too far and with your name here it brings more issues to the supporters as a whole...because of your name all Trump supporters are believed to be in line with your beliefs. Which just is not a fact.
AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 5/29/2025, 10:38 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea - I agree with this but from a modernism approach, look at Spiderman: Homecoming
They did it proper. Were characters race swapped? Absolutely. But, its 2016 New York City. Not 1967 New York City and that was the directors reasoning. With that, I am ok.
Had they made Peter Parker a black guy or british or canadian... I would have been here screaming my head off.
JosephStalin
JosephStalin - 5/29/2025, 10:39 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea I hear what you're saying. I don't know if that's true, but I don't think it would matter if Lando was black or white, for example, except that you'd lose representation. Same with Monica Rambeau, or even War Machine. I don't mind giving up some white representation. I don't feel like we're being erased.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/29/2025, 10:54 AM
@AgentofSH1ELD -

1960s or 2010s, M.J. could and should still be a White redhead.

And yes, MCU M.J. is supposed to be a raceswapped replacement for Mary Jane.

Otherwise why not have a White redhead M.J., or call the Zendaya Coleman character just Michelle, and not M.J.?

Should people remake older movies, shows, comics, and books with predominantly Asian, black, Latino, etc. characters, and raceswap some characters?

While moving the stories' settings past 2020?

A '70s Japanese show could be reimagined and moved to 2020s Japan, and have some characters raceswapped and made White, Latino, black, etc.

Family Matters, Good Times, Living Single, etc. could be reimagined and moved to 2028.

With more White, Latino, and Asian boyfriends, girlfriends, and spouses.
NateBest
NateBest - 5/29/2025, 11:01 AM
@bobevanz - There is a zero-tolerance policy regarding comments that encourage self-harm. I'm giving you a one-time only warning as you're a long-time user. You should know better.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/29/2025, 11:01 AM
@JosephStalin -

There does seem to be some White erasure.

And some redhead erasure:

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http://youtube.com/shorts/pLrfGmtipIA?si=YMvou07YODEI14Hz

Hell, leftists and liberals even raceswap real historical White people like Anne Boleyn, Cleopatra, and Alexander Hamilton.
JosephStalin
JosephStalin - 5/29/2025, 11:09 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea - I'll admit that the historical ones actually do bother me a bit, if they pitch them as historically accurate or documentaries. But I'll let Hamilton off because it's clearly just having a laugh. If anyone thinks Hamilton wasn't white then that's more to do with the state of education than Lin Manuel Miranda.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/29/2025, 11:36 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea -

Don't you get it yet?

All whitey are Satanic evil. All blacks are goodly angels. Minority is always wonderful.

What does that make a half white/ half Hispanic person?
AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 5/29/2025, 12:20 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - I understand what you are saying. Im surprised a family matters remake hasn't happened with a bi racial couple...
THEKENDOMAN
THEKENDOMAN - 5/29/2025, 9:22 AM
Oh for [frick]s Sake

Do we really need more spin-offs?

Let’s just [frick]ing focus on building the [frick]ing DCU.

[frick]ing hell, [frick]ing studio people

Always [frick]ing rinsing

For [frick]s sake
dragon316
dragon316 - 5/29/2025, 9:23 AM
Batman two could be canceled but spin off is still going on
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/29/2025, 9:57 AM
@dragon316 -

Hopefully it's all canceled.
MisterBones
MisterBones - 5/29/2025, 9:23 AM
Just make The Batman Part II…
supermanrex
supermanrex - 5/29/2025, 9:26 AM
i cant wait for all the inevitable "its not as good as the first season" hot takes.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/29/2025, 9:56 AM
@supermanrex -

Hopefully a second season is worse, if it's made.
SteviesRightFoo
SteviesRightFoo - 5/29/2025, 9:27 AM
There is no reeves-verse. A 7.5/10 batman that won't get a sequel and a good penguin spin off don't a universe make
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 5/29/2025, 9:31 AM
@SteviesRightFoo - Are you sure about that...?

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