BLACK WIDOW Star Florence Pugh Says She "P*ssed Off" A Lot Of People When She Signed Up To Join MCU

BLACK WIDOW Star Florence Pugh Says She "P*ssed Off" A Lot Of People When She Signed Up To Join MCU

Thunderbolts star Florence Pugh has reflected on her decision to join the Marvel Cinematic Universe, admitting that many of the people she'd working with on indie projects weren't happy with the news.

By JoshWilding - May 24, 2023 08:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Black Widow
Source: TIME

Florence Pugh had already put herself on the map prior to starring in Black Widow with standout performances in Fighting with My Family and Midsommar

However, joining the Marvel Cinematic Universe introduced the actress to her largest audience yet, and she's since gone on to star in Hawkeye and the upcoming Dune: Part Two. Her story as the new Black Widow will continue playing out in Thunderbolts, ensuring Pugh will remain a mainstay of this shared world. 

Talking to TIME, the actress admitted that not everyone was happy to learn she'd be starring in a Marvel Studios blockbuster.

"So many people in the indie film world were really pissed off at me," Pugh reveals. "They were like, 'Great, now she’s gone forever.' And I’m like, no, I’m working as hard as I used to work."

"I’ve always done back-to-back movies. It’s just people are watching them now," she continued. "You just have to be a bit more organized with your schedule."

The actress definitely hasn't wiped her hands with lower-budgeted projects, as she recently headlined Zach Braff's A Good Person and has also shot a starring role in Netflix and Sebastian Lelio's The Wonder. Her star is definitely on the rise, though, as Pugh will also be seen in Christopher Nolan's Oppenheimer this summer. 

As for Yelena Belova, after putting her desire to kill Clint Barton behind her in Hawkeye, it appears Valentina Allegra de Fontaine will convince the former Red Room assassin to join her new superhero team.

The Thunderbolts may continue to exist separately from The Avengers beyond the upcoming movie, though we'd be shocked if the Widow doesn't eventually assemble alongside the rest of Earth's Mightiest Heroes. After all, Scarlett Johansson clearly passed the baton to Pugh in Black Widow after bidding a final farewell to Natasha Romanoff. 

Thunderbolts is set to be released in theaters on July 26, 2024.

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mountainman
mountainman - 5/24/2023, 8:51 AM
Actors can still do indies after they’ve done big studio stuff. It’s really their choice of roles.

The ones that truly sell out are the actors that only take on big studio roles and don’t take on indie roles any more.

She’s ok as Yelena. Her acting is fine, but the typical Marvel quippiness just doesn’t work for a Russian who has lived as dark a life as she has. If you know any Russians, they are never bright and funny. Their humor is self-depreciating, dark, and very sarcastic. But that’s not her fault, it’s the writing.

Very much looking forward to her in Dune 2 though.
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 5/24/2023, 9:19 AM
@mountainman - that’s exactly what I think makes her humor work. When she says something funny, it’s not in the quippy way, it’s more of an insult to another character or something. That contrast is needed.
mountainman
mountainman - 5/24/2023, 10:30 AM
@Shivermetimbers - Sometimes sure. Then you get super cringe stuff that doesn’t fit the character like the lame uterus joke. Nobody besides a lamely written MCU character would dialog like that.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 5/24/2023, 11:07 AM
@mountainman -

"I’ve always done back-to-back movies. It’s just people are watching them now,"

Pleney of people can do experimental stuff and then do bigger stuff to make some money.
mountainman
mountainman - 5/24/2023, 11:16 AM
@Goldboink - Exactly. Natalie Portman is a great example. She has done smaller more thought-provoking films even after she started doing bigger stuff. Many other actors too. Like I said, the only real sell-out behavior would be if the actor only did big budget stuff from now on and never did smaller or more independent stuff after getting that big gig.
JonC
JonC - 5/24/2023, 12:07 PM
@mountainman - "If you know any Russians, they are never bright and funny. Their humor is self-depreciating, dark, and very sarcastic. But that’s not her fault, it’s the writing."

...but she wasn't raised as a 'typical russian'... her family was literally a joke and she had to find a way to deal with that... to 'laugh it off' and keep her sanity.
mountainman
mountainman - 5/24/2023, 1:08 PM
@JonC - Completely understand she was raised in America. But after she was separated from her adoptive parents, the Black Widow program did some real dark stuff to her.

My main point is that it’s a bit old that every hero in the MCU has to have Tony Starks quippyness. I’d just like to see a bit more variety in personality types.
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 5/24/2023, 1:19 PM
@mountainman - Totally agree with the variety of personalities. Like everyone says something funny once in a while, but not every character should be cracking jokes every other minute. It gets so old.
mountainman
mountainman - 5/24/2023, 1:45 PM
@Shivermetimbers - Yeah. I like Florence Pugh and Yelena seems like a cool character. But Natasha was always one of the least jokey MCU characters and now Yelena is more jokey.

In fact this is true for several of the newer legacy characters.

Yelena, She Hulk and Shuri Black Panther are all jokier than the OG heroes they are replacing.
JDL
JDL - 6/13/2023, 12:15 PM
@mountainman - Odd, I got all the humor and i'm not even close to being Russian. Maybe your humor gland needs a tune-up.
mountainman
mountainman - 6/13/2023, 1:41 PM
@JDL - I never said I didn’t get it, I said it wasn’t funny and it seemed out of charcater.

Enjoy your unfunny, super obvious, spelled out, immature humor all you want. Some of us don’t laugh at drawn out unfunny uterus jokes.
JDL
JDL - 6/13/2023, 5:28 PM
@mountainman - Look you just don't see the dark humor there. If that approach is just not the way for you, fine. But imo you are saying this is absolutely unfunny, when it it is, in fact, a matter of taste.
mountainman
mountainman - 6/13/2023, 5:50 PM
@JDL - All opinions on humor are subjective. And my subjective opinion is that they made Yelena a quippy unfunny hero to do what the MCU does too often. There needs to be more serious heroes to balance all the quippy ones, and Yelena seems like a good fit for the more serious hero.

Joking about dark content loses the seriousness. What happened to the Black Widows being sterilized isn’t a joking matter. It’s like in Thor 4 when they turned Jane’s cancer and the pantheon of gods into jokes. It just falls flat.
JDL
JDL - 6/13/2023, 11:13 PM
@mountainman - "All opinions on humor are subjective."

OK

"And my subjective opinion is that they made Yelena a quippy unfunny hero to do what the MCU does too often. There needs to be more serious heroes to balance all the quippy ones, and Yelena seems like a good fit for the more serious hero."

I did not see her humor like that at all. If I had I would tend to agree with you.

"Joking about dark content loses the seriousness. What happened to the Black Widows being sterilized isn’t a joking matter. It’s like in Thor 4 when they turned Jane’s cancer and the pantheon of gods into jokes. It just falls flat."

Humor in the way Yelena used was not to make people hearing it smile. Close to just the opposite. It was used to embarass the person she was talking to and, in a way, to make Yelena smile. Most humor does not seek to spread pain like that.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 5/24/2023, 8:52 AM
Don't sweat it, Flo. Anything MCU-related (or even -adjacent) seems to piss off a lot of people of a certain variety.

Wear it proudly.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 5/24/2023, 8:53 AM
Arguably the best legacy character so far.

DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 5/24/2023, 8:53 AM
@PlusUltra -

I'd argue Kate Bishop, but they both have insane chemistry together.

cyclopsprime
cyclopsprime - 5/24/2023, 8:55 AM
@DrReedRichards - you are very funny kate bishop
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 5/24/2023, 8:57 AM
@cyclopsprime -

Kate Bishop... Why did you do that, Kate Bishop?
Vigor
Vigor - 5/24/2023, 9:22 AM
@DrReedRichards - marvel NEEDS to lean into this. Let's stop adding characters for a quick and just focus on the gems we have
RitoRevolto
RitoRevolto - 5/24/2023, 8:53 AM
This is...old, right? Was this not an article last year? She's definitely told this story before.
RolandD
RolandD - 5/24/2023, 4:06 PM
@RitoRevolto - There’s a writer’s strike. Despite not having any significant news to write on right now, do you know CBM is still going to fill up each day with articles. Then again there was plenty of fluff before the writer strike. 😂
cyclopsprime
cyclopsprime - 5/24/2023, 8:55 AM
she only did that zach braff movie when they were still a couple
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/24/2023, 8:55 AM

I think she makes a good addition to the MCU hot chick lineup that the Beyonder will use in Secret Wars in an epic hot T-shirt contest.

Skestra
Skestra - 5/24/2023, 9:27 AM
@DocSpock - I have no idea what you just said but my gut tells me I should like it.
OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 5/24/2023, 10:51 AM
@DocSpock - Now THAT is an A-Team scene that everyone would love !
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/24/2023, 5:40 PM
@Skestra -

You should always listen to your guts.

DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/24/2023, 5:50 PM
@OrgasmicPotatoe -

I have always preferred that RDJ, ScarJo, & Evans not return to the MCU.

But this is something we definitely need ScarJo to come back for. Rare is the real life chick who has comic book chick sized boobs.

OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 5/25/2023, 6:24 AM
@DocSpock - She missed the first A-Team scene, she can't miss the next one !
MadThanos
MadThanos - 5/24/2023, 8:57 AM
She's a solid actress.

The issues in Black Widow has nothing to do with her performance.


Also, she looks better than David Harbour.
Vigor
Vigor - 5/24/2023, 9:19 AM
@MadThanos - she's missing a beard and a beer belly
clintthahamster
clintthahamster - 5/24/2023, 9:24 AM
@MadThanos - "Also, she looks better than David Harbour."
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