BLACK ADAM Producer Teases A New Take On The DCEU And A Possible Future Crossover With Wonder Woman

@MeAreLegend - reaction:

@mastakilla39 - I just wish we could have all of the characters in one proper universe. What I would give to see the classic Batman/Superman friendship in live action... I like the greek gods angle too (especially after norse mythology with Thor, this should be pretty fresh and interesting)

@bkmeijer - so justice league 2?

@bkmeijer - yeah, DC should make a team movie with the successful heroes that fans liked.

@BlackBeltJones - But in the comics she was the 1st superhero ever, DC written that into canon last year. She created every team since the beginning of time or inspired all meta humans including Supes to become heroes.

@Waddles - I agree and disagree with that assessment, Waddles. I agree inasmuch as most of the characters weren't earned in BvS. I'm actually okay with the "Old Man Batman" idea. Because the end result of 20 years as Batman in Gotham City would in fact turn Bruce Wayne into the Batman we saw. I'd rather though it have been SUPER clear that it was Jason Todd that was killed instead of Dick Grayson. The whole "shock value" of it being Dick and the "shock value" of Jimmy Olsen being a spy who is immediately killed off, both seemed out of nowhere and unearned. Same way with Flash, Aquaman and Cyborg. Completely unearned and shoehorned in, as you said. On the other hand, I am of the minority who think Wonder Woman was COMPLETELY earned in the way they put her in the movie. Most will say she was the best part of BvS and I agree with that. But some will say she was unearned. I disagree with that. She was awesome in every way. (But as you know, I'm biased.)

Should they all have had their own movies before the big team up? Absolutely. But then again, having seen ZSJL it makes total sense they all show up at the same time. Is it unearned? Yep. But it makes sense in the context of the movie.

I can go on and on about this but I'll end with this: The reason why the DCEU is such a mess right now is WB honestly has no idea what to do now that Zack Snyder is gone. They want movies that easily clear a billion dollars each time. But they don't know how to do it. They don't have a visionary like Feige onboard that can properly steer the ship. So they just make stand alone movies and put most of them on HBO Max.

And like you, I am SUCH a DC fan. I almost exclusively read DC comics. So it pains me to no end to see things happening this way.

@Waddles - Okay then I have a question for you. If we're gonna go with a Bat family kind of thing (which I could totally be on board with, btw) do we need to roll out the characters one by one in their own "origin" stories which brings them into the Batfamily fold? Or do we throw them all into one movie? Keep in mind we're both of the same mind when it comes to "earned" vs "unearned" characters and overstuffing movies with unnecessary characters. If we agree they should have their own stories to allow each character to have some breathing room, because there are SO MANY people in the Batfamily (at last count there's close to 20 of 'em) I say it should be an ongoing series on HBOMax. UNLESS! We get to pick and choose which members we're gonna allow in the Batfamily and which we're going to ignore in this particular universe. If we keep it to a core 5 or 6 people, (Batman, Nightwing, Robin, Red Hood, Batgirl, and Batwoman, which doesn't include peripheral allies like Catwoman or Riddler) even then I feel like it would need to be either an ongoing series on HBOMax or 5 or 6 standalone movies on HBOMax that brings them individually into the fold. How do you see a Batfamily universe playing out?

@bkmeijer - I like that idea too! They kinda sorta even already did that really. I can't remember which DCAU animated feature it was but basically it was Black Adam fighting Shazam. Once Shazam gets his *ss handed to him, Superman steps in and they both ultimately defeat Black Adam. Wonder Woman was nowhere to be found, but the point still remains. This was done in animation and it worked. Worked really well, in fact. So there's no reason why it can't happen in live action. But once again, we're talking WB here.