3 Questions For Whining Marvel Fanboys

3 Questions For Whining Marvel Fanboys

Oh, don't get me wrong--I'm a whining Marvel fanboy too. However, we whine about different things. Here I raise up three questions on topics I feel are bitched about too often--and I want them answered.

Editorial Opinion
By GliderMan - Sep 12, 2015 04:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics

3. Marvel's Most Wanted--What's Wrong With That?


When news broke out that ABC had ordered a pilot for a show based on Mockingbird and her ex-husband Lance Hunter, people immediately started bitching. "This is stupid" and "Why would we want this?" were common comments I saw below the article. My question would be, "Why wouldn't you want this?"

These two characters were arguably the best two additions to season two of Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., and have an ever-changing dynamic of love and hate. A show based on these two interesting characters would not only give us an opportunity to see more of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, it would give us more of a focus on their quite hilarious relationship. It's like if Mr. And Mrs. Smith was a TV show.

Back when Marvel was developing a show based soley on Mockingbird, fans everywhere were excited. It seems that putting Hunter in there is what is throwing people for a loop. I can't wrap my head around this. Hunter is basically the secret-agent-Deadpool of the show, offering comic relief, badass action scenes and [frick]ing loyalty. I want to see more of this guy, and it only makes sense to see his dynamic continue to change and grow with the love of his life by his side.

2. What Is So Wrong With Black Leather?

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People started bitching about this right here. First off, we can't even see the full costume, but here's the thing: IT STILL LOOKS COOL.

I have never been able to grasp why people hate the costumes so much in the X-Men films. YES, I do think it's long past time to embrace the costumes of the comics, especially after the more outrageous stuff has been proven to work on film with characters like Captain America and Thor. But these costumes are not at all distracting from the film to the point where I can't enjoy it. 

Why on God's green earth is it such a big deal?

1. Why Is Iron Man 2 Such A Bad Film?


Out of all three questions, this is the one I've wrestled most with, and the one I probably won't be able to accept more than anything. This is not a bad film, I refuse it. Was Mickey Rourke's Whiplash wasted? Sure, we could've used more time with him, but he was a good villain. Well acted, cool looking action, and we clearly understood his vendetta against Iron Man. Actually, every actor in this performed top knotch. Sam Rockwell was funny as Justin Hammer, Scarlett Johansson debuted as Black Widow, and Robert Downey Jr. and Gwenyth Paltrow had amazing chemistry as Tony Stark and Pepper Potts. So we can't complain about the acting here.

While some complain about S.H.I.E.L.D.'s presence, it makes perfect sense to me. They were paying special attention to Stark because of the Avenger Initative and the fact that he was, well, dying. Besides, we got to truly spend time with Nick Fury and S.H.I.E.L.D. became firmly established for general audiences.

The movie is well-paced, with an appropriate balance between the humor and the stakes. The movie is well acted, the CGI is great, with plenty of NON-DISTRACTING MCU Easter eggs and emotional moments to boot. What the bloody hell do you guys have against this movie?!

That's my time guys. Thanks for reading, and give me shit in the comment section below!

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dragonator29
dragonator29 - 9/12/2015, 6:22 PM
People here still hate AoS after the season 2 awesomeness. So a spin-off based on an already hated TV series wouldn't help them. Some feel that they were one of the few characters that were great and removing them from AoS will bring AoS back to its season 1 mess. While others feel that these two characters aren't strong enough to carry their own show.

Can't say anything about X-Men though. Not a big fan of the movies in the first place. But all I can say is that the comic book costume will look ridiculous and will take away from the seriousness that X-Men movies are carrying. I am good with black leather.

Didn't care about Iron Man 2. Can't comment on that.
Knightrider
Knightrider - 9/12/2015, 6:23 PM
In terms of Iron Man 2, I just found it was a Jack of all trades master of none.

It had some good performances, but lacked focus. So trying to be a setup movie, a movie about Tony's relationship with his father, his drinking, his conflict with Rhodey, his conflict with Arnie Hammer, and then the villain's arc it just tried to do too much and rather than doing one or two of those plot lines well, we got all of them poor. That's obviously just my opinion, but that's what I took from the movie.

It is a shame they had touched on the drinking as for IM3 I felt it would have been great to have introduced it then instead of his PTSD and have it slowly build over movies.

RextheKing
RextheKing - 9/12/2015, 6:51 PM
Have to agree on all points. There is absolutely no reason to be bitching about the new AoS spin-off. While I'd love to see some comic accurate suits in the X-films, these new suits still look badass; a big improvement from earlier films. While Iron Man 2 is one of the weaker MCU films, it is hardly a terrible one, and yeah it had a lot of Avengers Easter eggs, but [frick], they were just Easter eggs, most of which goes unnoticed in the first viewing.
chriskrispy
chriskrispy - 9/12/2015, 6:57 PM
Iron Man 2 is enjoyable enough. It's fun and its few action scenes are very well done. But, unfortunately, it's also an incoherent mess. Nothing ever really makes sense like whenever Tony Stark appeared to be down on his luck and incredibly depressed but having absolutely no reason to have either emotion (Which happened frequently). Or when he needs to make that impossible unsynthesizable element, he just does sorta does it in his basement with no help. Yeah, he's Tony Stark and everything, but it's still a plot hole. It's sort of what happened to Age of Ultron, the linear plot got scrapped in lieux of forcing in a bunch of world building, but IM2 got beaten to death with the world building stick and felt like the extended version of IM1's post credit scene. And Whiplash really didn't need to make his own suit. Hell, Whiplash shouldn't have even been used. I feel like solely using Justin Hammer would have been more interesting, but I guess a villain who has glowy whips deserves center stage.

And with X-Men, they [frick] up the characters every time, and it would be great if I could at least see the characters look as they should. Maybe if they were able to appropriately translate the characters the leather wouldn't suck so much but it's easier to get pissed about leather than "Man Wolverine is way too goddamned nice"
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 9/12/2015, 7:04 PM
I have a question for whiny Marvel fanboys.

If the Marvel Cinematic Universe is so perfect and so consisted; is it just me or did Rhodey and Bruce Banner look different? I mean did they get some plastic surgery done that was never spoken of because they look different in some films.
imkennypowers
imkennypowers - 9/12/2015, 7:11 PM
To me, Iron Man 2 just feels like a trailer for Avengers or like a filler episode of a TV series. It has some reason for being, introducing Black Widow and War Machine, but that's mostly the extent of it to me. I do like Sam Rockwell a lot, but he could've been better utilized. And like the other IM movies, the villain is an enemy of both Stark(Stark Industries) & Iron Man. (Much like Raimi's Spiderman villains were all conveniently connected to Peter Parker.)
I don't like IM3 either, but I believe it had potential to be a great movie. I don't feel that way about IM2.

Just one man's opinions.
imkennypowers
imkennypowers - 9/12/2015, 7:18 PM
"People started bitching about this right here. First off, we can't even see the full costume, but here's the thing: IT STILL LOOKS COOL."

Why can't the X-Men costumes look cool AND be blue & yellow??

In my opinion, this looks exponentially cooler/better than all the wife-beaters & jeans, leather jackets and black armor suits Wolverine has worn:
dragonator29
dragonator29 - 9/12/2015, 7:35 PM
@Scorpion8125: Counting Both Season 2 and Season 2 its just good. Though season 2 was tad awesome, definitely one of the great CBTV. But that still doesn't warrant a spin-off. Hopefully they prove us wrong.
DerekLake
DerekLake - 9/12/2015, 7:44 PM
As a non-Marvel fanboy, let me take a stab:

3) Hunter is the definition of whiney b!tch. That's what's wrong with it. Also, back when AOS first came out, I remember two wishes: first, an actual SHIELD spy/agent show and two, an actual superhero show. What we got was not quite either, and while the show has gotten much better in the action department, now its just X-Men light. Will this new show deliver on that first wish, though? Probably not, if Hunter is involved.

2) Deadpool demonstrates once and for all that Singer has NO EXCUSE for not actual doing the X-Men justice. It just makes no sense that Disney and DC and even Fox's Deadpool can do something resembling the actual costumes, but Singer still won't even come close to doing them right. The closest we got was Matthew Vaughn's First Class. Singer's not even trying.

1) Iron Man 2 was not only relatively inconsequential, but it reversed literally all of Tony Stark's character development from the first film, and never restored it. Age of Ultron and Civil War have finally undone that massive reversal, but Marvel wanted more of the comedy with him, which made him quite the pathetic character. Also, considering Winter Soldier's expert use of Black Widow and the titular character, Iron Man 2 seems to have missed a golden opportunity to do Black Widow and Vanko justice. It's even more of a tragedy that they rejected the chance to do greater character development on Vanko.
Lhornbk
Lhornbk - 9/12/2015, 9:02 PM
Wow! An editorial that I totally, completely agree with. I'm pretty sure that's a first, lol. Good job!!

I see that some commenters are still whining about costumes, bringing up Thor and Cap and now Deadpool. I've explained this before. Thor's costume is Asguardian armor. It makes perfect sense for him to wear it. Cap's costume was designed to help him represent America. It is both functional and showcases his patriotism, so it makes sense for him to wear it. As for Deadpool, his costume seems to fit his personality. He has to wear a mask anyway, so he decides he wants to stand out. This makes sense. How would it make sense for the X-Men to wear those silly blue/yellow costumes? They don't really want to stand out. They consider themselves to be more of a covert action team, not superheroes. Black leather makes perfect sense. So stop with the whining and the comparisons already!
MaximusTheMad
MaximusTheMad - 9/13/2015, 7:47 AM
Two answer your second question about costumes.
speedyg33
speedyg33 - 9/13/2015, 9:20 AM
Intriguing questions , I’ll give it a shot.

1 You hit the nail on the head it probably is Hunter. Fans want Hawkeye, and while Renner isn’t going to do a TV show keeping her solo leave the illusion that he might. If you had Canary paired with someone other than Green Arrow you’d get the same response.

2 It’s not so much the looks of the Black Leather, it’s what it represents. Fans see it as Singer thumbing his nose up to the comics. He can keep his dam leather just add some color. Make it logical as well. Beast shouldn’t be wearing it for example.

3. Iron Man 2 suffered from high expectations. AoU is the same way. Both films predecessors were done so much better. We wanted more of the same. I’d actually rather watch Iron Man 2 over Iron Man 3.
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 9/13/2015, 3:01 PM
Oof, out of all the points made here, your stance on Iron Man 2 is EASILY the most controversial haha. I could probably write an entire editorial of what's wrong with that movie.

It's still enjoyable enough and it has plenty of goof stuff in it, but I'd say it definitely deserves the hate it gets. Especially when you consider everything else that Marvel's put out since, it just makes no sense NOT to hold Iron Man 2 to a high standard.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 9/13/2015, 3:21 PM
K will take a shot.

1. The exact reason I don't want them to have their own show. I want them to stay right where they are. I like both characters. They have a lot to offer season 3.

2. First Class showed us the classic blue and yellow can work. This film is in the 80's, so absolutely no reason they couldn't have taken those suits and given them a bit more flare.

3. I really like Ironman 2. My only real complaint was how silly and super convenient it was for Howards element to be found within the Stark Expo blueprints. I mean yeah, there could have been land contracts that prevented anyone from removing any of the buildings. So I'm not saying it was a bad place to hide it. Just the convenience of it at that time, and the model just happened to be sitting there. Other than that I thought it was really good.
MaximusTheMad
MaximusTheMad - 9/14/2015, 12:19 AM
@dethpillow

Is that.... a handicapped Storm?
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