4 Reasons Why I'm Worried About The Russos And The Marvel Cinematic Universe.

4 Reasons Why I'm Worried About The Russos And The Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Yes i know this may be a bit of a controversial thing, but i've been thinking this for a while and i just want to get my worries off my chest. If you want to see my ramblings then click away.

Editorial Opinion
By Mrcool210 - Dec 15, 2014 07:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics
Now let me get one thing out of the way first. I am not a Marvel Studios Hater. I have liked a majority of the films made by Marvel Studios. Thor The Dark World being the obvious exception. I'm just here to give a few reasons as to why i'm really really worried about the future of the MCU and it all comes down to the two Russo bros. Now once again before i list my reasons i don't hate the Russo bros, those 2 are good directors. But there are a few things that might happen if they have the level of involvement they seem to be getting. Quite frankly even if Joss Wheadon got this level of involvement i'd be worried. But enough of the introduction lets get down to buisness.

1. The Quality Of Avengers Age Of Ultron



Now this is something i'm not as worried about as the other things on this list, as the trailers for the movies and what we've heard so far has been promising. However hearing that the Russo brothers will be directing the third film in this franchise is sending a little chill down my spine. Now there could be several reasons for this, A. Marvel just thinks the Russos could be a better choice for the story they want to tell, which could be true, but with how big and cosmic the infinity war story is i doubt that would be the case as the Russos haven't directed anything yet that would give Marvel that impression. Then there is the option that could be the case and its what worries me B) Wheadon really dropped the ball with Avengers AOU. Now this could just me being overly worried about nothing but compare this to some other films. Usually when the studio feels that a director has done a good job with a film in a franchise, even before the film comes out they will sign them up to do the next one. They did it with Joss around the time of the first avengers film. Marvel may have seen whats been done with AOU and not liked what they see, or Wheadon could have pulled an Alan Taylor, we honestly don't know. All i'm saying is, that if they don't want Wheadon back, i'm not sure if Wheadon had the mentality of "Save the best for last".

2. The Russos may play favoritism. Even if its accidental.



This is one of my biggest worries with these guys taking over The Avengers franchise. One of the biggest things with the Avengers is that every character (for the most part) feels equally important, everyone gets their time in the sun, hell even in the first Avengers film (for the most part) the characters got equal screen time. What i'm worried about is the fact that the Russos will have directed not one but two Captain America movies by the time they would have to work on Infinity War. By the time they would get to that film Cap would be what i would call their "Comfort Zone". Its a character they have worked on in the past so they feel more comfortable in his world and with that character, and due to that Captain America might become the central character in a franchise where every character is supposed to feel central. Since Cap is a character they have worked with before he may be the one getting all the cool moments, leaving a lot of the other characters in the dust. Now of course my opinion on this could change depending on how Civil War plays out. If they are able to give Cap and Iron man equal importance to the plot then this worry will go away. But for now I have this feeling in the back of my neck, and it won't go away. This would apply even if Jon Faverau directed Avengers, since he had worked on the Iron Man character before.

3. Burnout Part 1 (The MCU as a whole)



Oh boy, this is the biggest worry i got. In order for a franchise to stay fresh and keep a leg up it needs new blood every once and a while. Usually that would apply to only one series of movies but in this case the MCU at least as seen by most people is all one big franchise. Every movie in the MCU at least so far has been a superhero action movie. After a while a director or directors in this case just get tired of doing the same thing over and over again. With the Russos brothers they arn't even doing 3 movies for marvel, they are doing 4 and possibly more if the rumors are true (which i will get into later). Look what happened to someone like Sam Raimi in Spider-Man 3. When the 3rd film of the franchise came around he was tired, and the film majorly suffered for it.  That same thing may happen here, even though The Avengers has a series of different characters all of the films we know they will be working on will have at the very least Captain America, Nick Fury, Black Widow, Maria Hill and Iron Man. After a while those franchises could blur together, fatigue could start to set in, and as a result Avengers 3 and any film they direct afterwards for Marvel could dip in quality. Especially if they will be writing a lot of those upcoming movies. Directing a movie is enough of a job but then to also write for that many movies in such a short amount of time could drive you crazy. 

4. Burnout Part 2 (Spider-Man)



Now this last bit is something that hasn't even been confirmed yet. But according to some rumors that have been floating around if Marvel Studios were to get the rights to Spider-Man back in this deal they would want the Russos to tackle the new trilogy of films. I personally feel this is a huge mistake. Yes they are good directors. However with what i brought up earlier we don't know what could happen, how sick they could be of making superhero films. Spider-Man more then any CBM franchise out there right now needs to jolt of new life into it especially after how people reacted to The Amazing Spider-Man 2. Now working on Spider-Man could be a breath of fresh air, it could end up feeling even more tired then before due to the directors having worked on these types of films for that long. Sure. Spider-Man is a very different character then Captain America or Iron Man or Nick Fury. However Marvel films do all share a similar tone for the most part, they all have to feel like they are in the same universe, and that might just be enough to make spider-man already be dead in the water before the film even arrives. We need someone new that marvel would bring in. Sony apparently wants Phil Lord and Christopher Miller, if marvel were to get the rights maybe they could bring them in, cause then at the very least they would have a fresh perspective on how to work with the movie. But we will just have to wait and see with this last part as it is all just a rumor.

Now of course like i said, this is just me rambling about something that has been bugging me to a point, i know not everyone will agree with me (hell i don't expect any of you will). But i'm hoping at the very least you see my point, and why I'm not as excited as i would like to be for the future. Why i am staying a bit cautious as to whats coming up.  Thanks for reading and have a great night everybody.

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BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 12/15/2014, 8:53 PM
1. Or maybe Whedon didn't want to do a third film. By the point Avengers 3.2 would come out, he'd have been working most of the last eight years on a movie.

2. Don't care, Cap is the best Avengers.

3. Burnout? Damn, this reminds me of an editorial I need to write about CBM oversaturation.

Although I disagree, well written.
BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 12/15/2014, 8:54 PM
*Avenger.
Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 12/15/2014, 9:03 PM
@Drdoom guess no matter how hard i try i can't escape my bad grammar. I'm so ashamed.



BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 12/15/2014, 9:06 PM
@0megaDaGod

Let's also remember that Cap 2 is arguably the best MCU movie ever.
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 12/15/2014, 9:10 PM
"Now let me get one thing out of the way first. I am not a Marvel Studios Hater."

That's exactly something a Marvel Studios Hater would say! Haha just kidding, this was a perfectly reasonable and well-articulated editorial. Still though, I have to disagree with your points.

First and foremost, I think you can stop worrying about a perceived lack of faith in Whedon's work on Age of Ultron. I believe he's publicly stated his intentions for leaving the MCU sooner rather than later, and he simply chose now to do so. As BatManHeisenberg said, he simply doesn't want to do a third film.

As for point #2...I don't think that would be an issue, either. These guys are professionals, not fanboys. They don't play favorites or get hung up on the things we get hung up on. Clearly, Kevin Feige was impressed with how they tackled The Winter Soldier - enough to give them the reins for Civil War (which, no matter what, will be a Captain America movie first and foremost) AND even consider them for the Infinity Wars. I'm not sure we have much basis to second guess that.

#3 is where I have to disagree the most, because the MCU movies feel vastly different from each other. Different tones, different themes, different characters, and most of them even fall under different genres altogether. That's part of the reason why this cinematic universe has been sustained so far - it always feels new, fresh, and exciting with each new movie. I doubt that would suddenly change now.

Again, don't feel like I'm attacking your viewpoint or anything. You're perfectly entitled to feel the way you do, but I just feel that someday, you'll eventually look back at all this and admit that you were worrying over nothing!
BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 12/15/2014, 9:12 PM
@SauronsBANE

Man, I am getting all the love right now! I kid I kid. But well written comment, sir.
IamnotYou
IamnotYou - 12/15/2014, 9:13 PM
You might get an ulcer if you keep worrying about shit you have no control over.
BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 12/15/2014, 9:14 PM
I trust Feige & co. I have at least enjoyed every MCU film to date, and have come around to things like Iron Man 2&3. Things like The Avengers, GoTG and Cap2 will have effects on the industry long after Feige is gone.
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 12/15/2014, 9:15 PM
@BatManHeisenberg

Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 12/15/2014, 9:15 PM
@BatManHeisenberg @SauronsBANE

Well i'm at least glad this doesn't sound like an insane rambling then, that i was able to make it at the very least comprehendable lol. I guess with the whole thing of Wheadon not wanting to do a third film. That idea did pop in my head, but the way wheadon talks about the avengers, at least from what i've seen it didn't seem like thats what he wanted. Could be, we'll have to wait and see. Oh well, can't win em all.



How long do you think it'll be before i'm called a MS hater anyways cause i dare to be worried about an upcoming marvel movie? lol
staypuffed
staypuffed - 12/15/2014, 9:16 PM
On the whole 'Russos directing Infinity War not Whedon' thing.

The Winter Soldier is the best-made Marvel movie yet, and while I think Whedon's a great writer, I haven't been very impressed by his directing skills. So I'm pretty happy with the duo taking over.
TheManFromMars
TheManFromMars - 12/15/2014, 9:17 PM
1) I agree with the concern over the Russo Brothers tackling the Avengers as it is a completely different beast than Winter Soldier and Civil War as both of those are political thriller sort of thing and Infinity War is anything but.

But I don't think Age of Ultron's quality has anything to do with it and I'm willing to give the Russos a chance.

2) I already expected Cap to take the spotlight on Infinity War way before the Russos were rummored/confirmed(?) to direct it, so I don't have a problem with it.

3) Good point.

4) I still don't quite believe those hacks and even if Marvel gets Spidey's rights back, I don't think they should rush and shoehorn him into the MCU.

Good write up.
TheManFromMars
TheManFromMars - 12/15/2014, 9:20 PM
Oh, but I also agree with SauronsBANE about point 3 over the diversity of the MCU.

Still, it may still be a little tiring for a director to tackle so many CBMs in a row, so I still think is a good point.
Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 12/15/2014, 9:26 PM
I guess the thing with wheadon and avengers 2/3 is is that as we know if you don't go with what Marvel wants, or they don't like what you've done, no second chance, you're out of there. All if it would have been revealed that the Russos were directing it after we saw AOU and it blew us away then my worries wouldn't be there. But as of now, that they got to talks this early, makes me scared for wheadon, if he did something to upset marvel. I'm not saying he did, i just got a feeling lol.
Kurne
Kurne - 12/15/2014, 9:26 PM
I just hope Marvel doesn't rely on those two. Same could be said for Whedon, but I feel his duties with Marvel post-Avengers was much, much greater in terms of earning it (absolutely does not undermine the Russos' talents), especially when looking at the impact.

I guess it's beneficial to have 2 directors come an event like the God damn Infinity War, but I really, really wish this decision was not made until after Age of Ultron. That is the Marvel movie Whedon has always wanted to make, and I don't wanna cry myself to sleep afterwards wishing he stayed on.
Kurne
Kurne - 12/15/2014, 9:31 PM
And favoritism? Cap should fall into that category (along with, y'know, some of those other guys I guess).
BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 12/15/2014, 9:33 PM
@0megaDaGod

I kind of wish Gunn would direct one to. That'd be epic.

@SauronsBANE

GizmoEl
GizmoEl - 12/15/2014, 10:15 PM
I think Marvel understands that the Russo brothers share their vision. Joss Whedon is a great writer and director, but I do think he will bow out of directing after Age of Ultron. I think he'll want to focus on other projects.. but I hope he continues to write/polish scripts for the MCU and take the Captain Marvel franchise.

While the Russos may be taking over directing duties, we still need a writer for Avengers 3/4. (I'm hoping Joss and Gunn take that role). There's still a long list of movies coming up and I'm sure we'll be meeting new directors who will become fan favorites for future projects. Afterall, we JUST realized how great the Russos and Gunn were this year. Next year we'll see what Peyton Reed is capable of and the year after that maybe Scott Derrickson will be a fan favorite. These things are impossible to predict, but I do hope that we get a lot of new and fresh directors to breathe life to the MCU.
Wallymelon
Wallymelon - 12/15/2014, 10:23 PM
Whedon didn't sign on until the first Avengers was out. It most likely has to do with them being right for the job and Whedon wanting to move on to something else. Don't be worried. Be ecstatic. Marvel dropped the ball once so far. THOR TDW is just awful.
ScarletWarlock
ScarletWarlock - 12/15/2014, 10:41 PM
One of the reasons why the Russo's directing Infinity War Parts 1 and 2 is incredibly ambitious is because they have such a different tone than Whedon and Gunn. They set up all the cosmic ridiculousness and awesomeness while the Russos, while still very comic-hooky, it feels much more impactful in terms of being on the ground-level. I mean, for everyone complaining about Thanos' look in Guardians, somewhat justified, he could look incredible in the film under their belt. I just hope they don't get rid of the ridiculous aspect of the movies, and plus, the Russo's are more known for being witty so we know they're capable of it. Also, just as a side note, I'm a huge Whedonite fan, so this news is kind of saddening to me, but I am really curious as to what they are going to with the movie. It will most likely be fine. Just my two-cents.
tonytony
tonytony - 12/15/2014, 11:25 PM
avengers apparently needed reshoots so maybe you might be on to something in saying that marvel might be changing whedon because they are not happy with what they have seen
kinghulk
kinghulk - 12/16/2014, 12:55 AM
i wouldent worry about it, i think whedon will do a great job with AOU and i doubt he wont be involved in infinity war in same way. i heard a rumor that he would Write and be a producer. besides the russos did a great job and although i agree about your worry about them doing an avengers film when they started with a solo movie, i believe they made on of the best MCU movies and can certainly pull it off.
kinghulk
kinghulk - 12/16/2014, 12:55 AM
tonytony- every marvel film has had reshoots
tonytony
tonytony - 12/16/2014, 4:39 AM
dethpillow an incoherent sounding douchebag. Honestly when I read your posts it hurts my eyes. please stop typing
Vortigar
Vortigar - 12/16/2014, 7:15 AM
Ach, if Doc Strange is good then after that the whole thing can go up in flames for all I care. It's been a good run so far. Couple ups, couple downs.

The Russo's had also never made something like Cap2 and it was a hit. A lot of the time when you start out with something new there's a drive there and a lot of ideas raring to go. You see it a lot with musicians, that first album is glorious. Let's hope the fire hasn't gone out of the Russo's by the time we get to Infinity War.

If not? Well, like I said, its been fun and I'm glad I was here while it lasted.
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