THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 3; What It Should Be (To Me)

THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 3; What It Should Be (To Me)

Now that THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2 is out of theaters pretty much everywhere, I think it is reasonable to look forward to what is next. With three villains (I'm assuming they are not using the Lizard) introduced for the potential to be in the Sinister Six, we need three more and I look towards the future on how they can be introduced...with a better story than the second one.

By TheDarman - Jul 09, 2014 02:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic

DISCLAIMER: This is just my personal thoughts on where the franchise should go. I'm not involved, in any way, with the production of the film. I, personally, quite enjoyed the first two The Amazing Spider-Man films but understand if you dislike them. However, since my taste is different than yours, where I might want the franchise to head might be different than your version and that is okay. Still, this is going to be my own personal write-up but, should you want to write your own, I would definitely love to see what you guys come up with as well. Well, without further ado, I will dive into this.



The movie will pick up with the sounds of explosions as the logos flash and it starts with Spider-Man jamming the metal sewer pot into the side of the RHINO armor. A pretty lengthy battle between RHINO and Spider-Man ensues where RHINO begins targeting civilians to try to distract Spider-Man. Spider-Man, however, manages to jump around the explosions and save the civilians in danger. Upon saving one family, however, Spider-Man is blasted off his feet and RHINO stalks over to him, lifting up the head to look down on him. Spider-Man manages to use this to his advantage and pulls Aleksei out of the suit and jumps into it, pulling a whole bunch of wires out. The RHINO suit collapses as Spider-Man is celebrated by the public and the police.

Mister Fiers is then seen talking to Harry in the cell, stating that Spider-Man managed to take down Aleksei Systevich. The talk explains the motivations of Fiers and Harry as Fiers, originally working from behind-the-scenes, provides the idea of ascending through OsCorp (as he is now CEO, following his murder of Menken) and into the political rhelm as mayor of the city. He will seize the position of mayor by continuing to use OsCorp to stop the new and increased vigilante activity in the city by also creating threats. Harry, on the other hand, wants increased government contracts and funding to OsCorp as he discovered that the spider venom already had accelerated his health problems. Norman Osborn had been able to extend his life through multiple different experiments which were all destroyed following the cross species disaster. The only thing Harry has left is the spider venom that only continues to accelerate his condition with use or he needs OsCorp to continue to be funded by government contracts. RHINO was the first step of the plan; he was to rampage around Manhattan and the police department, without Spider-Man, would be searching for someone to help and OsCorp would come out of the dark with its Vulture prototype (developed by Adrian Toomes) and provide a public sanctioned vigilante. However, with Spider-Man back, it puts a hinderence on the plan. Harry tells Fiers to go with the "Mysterio" project.



Six months pass by as Peter finishes his second year of college. However, more and more, Peter is spending time out of the house, passing his hours now also working as a web designer for the Bugle. May tries to call him saying that it has been a year since Gwen's death and that he can't bury himself in his work. Peter doesn't listen and tells May that he will be home around 6:00. On May's end, we see her looking out the window as new neighbors unpack their boxes. May decides to go out and say hello, where she encounters a woman named Anna Watson. May begins talking about how she lives with her nephew. Anna says that her niece is actually around a lot now that she goes to school in the city and is actually helping her unpack. May asks what her name is and Anna replies that it is Mary Jane.

On Peter's end of the call, we see J. Jonah Jameson (played by J.K. Simmons) storm out of his office, yelling for Urich and Parker. Peter goes up and Jameson tells Peter that there is (apparently) an alien invasion starting around lower Manhattan. Peter and Urich both raise eyebrows but Jameson yells at them to go check it out. Urich calls a cab and Peter says that he left his camera in the office and that he'll meet him up there. It is then that Peter goes into an alley and changes into Spider-Man, slinging his camera over his shoulder.



Peter shows up and he can't believe what he is seeing. A swarm of alien ships are surrounding the Statue of Liberty as giant ships pass overhead. Mysterio is in the middle of the power plant where Gwen died, swarmed by green smoke as a whole bunch of odd looking aliens surround him. Spider-Man hangs up his camera and jumps into the middle of Battery Park. Mysterio hasn't started his attack yet because he has been holding civilians hostage in hopes of getting the leader and using him as leverage (or so Mysterio says). Spider-Man says that he is not the leader but he'd be more than happy to punch a hole through the fish bowl. As Spider-Man approaches to punch Mysterio, a swirl of green smoke surrounds Mysterio and he disappears. Spider-Man turns around to get punched in the face my Mysterio and suddenly he is surrounded by Mysterios. He begins punching them and realizes they are robots. However, a group of them are holding up their hands (as they have repulsors, much like Iron Man, built into their hands) pointing at the civilians. Spider-Man jumps in front of the blast and is shot backward, nearly knocked unconscious. Mysterio taunts that he has beaten the champion of Earth.

That is when Vulture swoops in and begins, with ease, tossing grenades into pockets of the robot army and blasting enemies with his guns. (He is not Adrian Toomes, who was the developer, but rather Blackie Drago, a mercenary with ties to Kraven the Hunter, hired by OsCorp. We learn this in the next scene between Fiers and Beck.) Mysterio tries to stand up following have been close in proximity to one of the grenades. Drago, however, manages to beat down Mysterio and almost succeeds in breaking the fish bowl before Mysterio dissipates in a puff of green smoke. Vulture, then, flies off as the ships all "retreat" and the green smoke dissipates. Spider-Man wakes up to see the police swarming around and pointing their guns at him. Spider-Man leaps away and disappears before one can shoot him.



Mister Fiers, then, shows up in a massive prop house where we see a whole bunch of OsCorp boxes and Mysterio fishbowls. Mister Fiers, however, walks through all of it and walks exits through Stage Left to see Quentin Beck nursing wounds. Beck notices him in the mirror and turns around to face Fiers. Beck gets all on his case over the Vulture almost killing him. Fiers replies that Drago knows what he is doing and so does OsCorp. Beck says that he could've killed Spider-Man right there and he would've finished everything right there. Fiers, however, says that he is still needed to crack the genetic code of the spider venom to save a "primary investor". Fiers states that despite the fact Spider-Man survived, they brought him back down to earth and placed suspiscion back on him. With Vulture being introduced in a massive OsCorp press conference later that day, OsCorp will be in control of all superpowered crime and punishment...and so much more.

Peter is in his room, watching a video of Gwen and his while they were on a date in Times Square. He starts to cry when May knocks on his door. He turns off the video and opens the door as May Parker comes in. She sits down on his bed and says that she got his grade report from ESU. Peter sits on his chair as May tells him that many of his best subjects: Science, English and Math, all fell to C+s. The worst grade he got was a C- but May says that this is not like him. May and Peter have a pretty heartfelt talk about Ben and Gwen. May states that she has started dating Miles Warren, a man currently advancing in the field of cloning and that it might be time for Peter to move on. May brings up Anna Watson's niece, Mary Jane Watson. Peter says that he can't go out with her. May asks why he can't and Peter says that it is because everyone who gets close to him ends up dead. May retorts that he can't live his life in a bubble and Peter says that if he doesn't, she'll die too. May and Peter then begin to argue culminating with May saying that she knows he's Spider-Man and to stop lying to her on why he can't be with anyone. Peter stands shocked for a little while and then runs out of the house.



We, then, cut to an OsCorp press conference where Felicia is providing the commentary over the future of OsCorp. She states that OsCorp is trying to provide for a city where it had failed before. She states that it had failed in producing helpful, beneficial members to the city; that in order to protect from the escalating superhuman threat that more superhumans are needed. Felicia states that the first in a new breed of superheroes is the Vulture, which the Daily Bugle named for OsCorp in their paper. Felicia states that OsCorp is also doing an overhaul of the power plant, realizing it is too vulnerable. Felicia brings up noted nuclear phyisicist, Doctor Otto Octavius, to explain his plans. Octavius states that nuclear fusion has become his priority since he got hired by OsCorp, following the disaster at the power plant one year ago. Once again, he says, an enemy has targeted this extremely vulnerable power plant. Octavius states that he won't wait for the third strike. With his fusion reactor, only one person can possibly mess with it, thanks to the uniqueness of the arms that are required to operate it and keep it stable. Octavius shows off the arms that are needed to operate the machine. He is met with roaring applause and Urich is seen writing as the camera pans in on Spider-Man, watching from above the square.

The next shot we see Peter stalking into his father's Roosevelt Island labratory, furious. He, once again, brings up the subway train and goes inside, looking for anything that can get him access to OsCorp. Inside, Peter finds the old badge of his father's. Peter is unsure if it'll work but he takes it anyway and gains entry to OsCorp using this. He finds that he can't gain entry to the building initially as it is was overridden by Norman Osborn. It searchs, however, for the status of the overrider and finds that Norman is dead. It grants Peter access and actually directs him to the Special Projects area, where Richard Parker's work had originally been. Peter gains access and takes a whole bunch of pictures of the Mysterio, RHINO and Vulture equipment right next to each other. We see Peter sneak around as Fiers shows up, talking with Felicia. Peter manages to escape and shows up to Jameson's office with the pictures. Jameson is unsure whether to believe Spider-Man but Robbie takes the photos to the police department. While the police are unsure, they get a warrant to go into the building to check for the evidence and discover that there is, in fact, the connection.



Fiers shows up immediately to tell Harry what is going on. Harry, immediately, injects himself with more of the spider venom to give him extra strength. The mutation only looks worse than Goblin's initial look as his skin begins to rip and thin. Harry can only last so long without the suit, however, and he and Fiers open up the secruity vault using the clearance from Fiers. Harry, then, suits up as the Goblin and breaks Electro (who had been captured by OsCorp and brought back to Ravencroft) and Aleksei (who also retrieves his armor) out of prison to go storm OsCorp for the one purpose of killing Spider-Man.

Spider-Man arrives with the police, who begin to shut down all of the projects in the division. Vulture (Drago) shows up and begins killing a large number of police officers. Spider-Man attempts to subdue him in the tower but Vulture flies out the window.  Spider-Man wraps his webs around his wings and this forces Vulture to crash back onto the first floor and through the window in Octavius' lab. Octavius is trying to shut down the experiment (he murmurs about how the police would just shut it down without any regard for anyone's personal safety) as Vulture and Spider-Man crash around. Otto is trying to concentrate as the two fight and he pleads Spider-Man to leave. Spider-Man, however, is brought back down by Drago and Spider-Man rips the stablizer for the nuclear fusion reactor out of the wall. Otto begins to lose control and he is forced to his back to the flames as his arms try to protect him. Spider-Man realizes that he had done something terribly wrong. He kicks Vulture through the window and picks up Otto as the fusion reactor is about to explode. He manages to leap out of the building before the explosion sounds. Spider-Man murmurs how happy he is that it wasn't a bigger explosion before another one goes off. Spider-Man curses but it turns out it is Green Goblin who shows up.



Spider-Man becomes furious and rips Harry off the glider. He punches him in the face many, many times, causing him to bleed. However, before Peter can really lose it, he is blasted off his feet Mysterio, who used his repulsor blast. Spider-Man's spider sense goes off again and he leaps just in time for Electro to blast the ground. He turns around in mid-air and sees RHINO barreling through the street, destroying cop cars and the like. Spider-Man pulls himself to the ground and rips the fire hydrant off and begins directing the water towards Electro. Electro zips across and lands a bolt across Spider-Man's chest. Spider-Man goes flying into a nearby car. Goblin zips by and grabs Spider-Man by the throat. Peter decides to take the fight to the air, eliminating two potential threats from what he has to deal with. Spider-Man kicks the glider downward, forcing the glider to climb into the air. Peter, then, grabs Harry by his hair and throws him onto the top of the OsCorp Tower. Spider-Man, then, grabs the glider with his webs and flings it into Electro. The glider carries him all the way to the Hudson River and a massive explosion sounds off the coast of Manhattan. He, then, lands on the OsCorp Tower and proceeds to beat Harry. However, Peter's spider sense goes off and he dodges as Mysterio uses his repulsor blast. It zooms into Harry's chest, knocking him out.

Mysterio summons a whip that wraps around Spider-Man and brings him close. Mysterio states that Spider-Man will never again deny him the fame of being the one who kills the web slinger. Mysterio throws the whip around and Spider-Man begins to fall to the ground. Spider-Man pulls himself through a window and begins running out the other side. He, then, runs down the building towards RHINO, who was circling the building the whole time. Bullets run up the building as Spider-Man runs down it. Mysterio flies down the building and blasts at Spider-Man. Spider-Man leaps off the building and the repulsor blasts follow him until he lands on the RHINO armor. One last repulsor blast lands on the neckline of the RHINO head and it almost separates. Mysterio holds his fire but use his power to fly closer to Spider-Man. Spider-Man, with his strength, then rips the head completely off the suit and pulls Aleksei out. Spider-Man punches him and then webs him up as he lands on the ground, padded.



Spider-Man leaps again as Mysterio blasts the RHINO armor, which blows up. Spider-Man lands two blocks down as the explosion blew him down the street. Spider-Man then produces a web that blinds him, only using his spider sense to see whether things are dangerous. Trains and airplanes divebomb Spider-Man, as he just stands there. Mysterio, realizing that Spider-Man is wise to his act, begins blasting him again. Spider-Man leaps off the ground and uses the hood of a car to fling into Mysterio. Mysterio lands, hard, on the ground, breaking his fishbowl. Peter lands and punches Mysterio into unconsciousness. At the Daily Bugle, everyone celebrates as J. Jonah Jameson claims that Spider-Man must really be behind everything that went wrong at OsCorp. Doctor Otto Octavius is rolled away in an ambulance as the rest of the five are brought back to Ravencroft. After a voiceover by the Daily Bugle news reporter stating that the threat of OsCorp had finally ended, Peter visits the grave of Gwen Stacy. He kneels down and kisses her headstone as he lays fresh flowers. In a cheesy fashion, Peter talks to Gwen about how he needs to finally move on and that he can't just continue to mourn her. Peter says that he will always love her but that it is time for him to be happy and he will find a way to be happy with the pain that he has had to endure with his life.

We, finally, cut to May Parker asking if Peter is sure about this. Peter says that he is sure. May says that she is so proud of Peter, no matter what happens. The doorbell rings and Peter goes to answer it. At the door stands Mary Jane Watson. Peter is shocked at how great she looks. Mary Jane simply says, "Face it, tiger. You just hit the jackpot."



And that is where I would like to see The Amazing Spider-Man 3 "end". With one quick after credits scene we are able to see Otto looking at the television scene replaying the news footage of Spider-Man fighting the five supervillains and we see Otto begin to smile as the arms begin to move around him as well. Following that, that would be the end of The Amazing Spider-Man 3. Of course, it probably won't play out this way but this would definitely be the way that I would do it. Anyway, share your thoughts (courtesly) below on what you think of this fan fic. Do you think it is a good idea? Did I juggle the multiple villains alright? Make sure to leave your thoughts below! As always thanks for reading and I will see you guys later.
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Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 7/9/2014, 3:09 PM
I do agree that mysterio should be in it.
TheDarman
TheDarman - 7/9/2014, 3:22 PM
@DrDoom Nice to see you man. It wouldn't be a Spider-Man thread without you saying how much you hate the reboot.
ManWithNoName
ManWithNoName - 7/9/2014, 3:29 PM
J.K simmons had his era of playing J Jonah Jameson, it's is time to pass it on.
Not saying he was bad at though.
kong
kong - 7/9/2014, 3:53 PM
I think that this would be two short for a Spidey film. Also I think this movie would feel crowded because there are a lot of villains, that haven't had any time for character development. I felt like Vulture, Mysterious, and even Rhino were just there to be there. I think that the next film should have Peter wearing the venom suit. I think it'd fit perfectly with what his character has gone through. After losing Gwen he'd be upset, despite hi seeming to get over it at the end of the film. The black suit would stimulate him and make him feel better. I could see him beating Goby to pulp in that suit.

I also think that the villains should be Doc Ock and Vulture only with Harry in prison pulling strings while secretly being fed spider venom. That would leave Kraven and Chameleon (yes I'd rather have Chameleon) to be introduced in the Sinister Six movie.
kong
kong - 7/9/2014, 3:53 PM
Oh yeah Hugh Laurie for JJJ.
GoldenMan
GoldenMan - 7/9/2014, 4:12 PM
As much as I wish TASM franchise didn't exist, this idea seems like a logical yet acceptable progression. Only criticism (mostly of the franchise) is that I freaking hate the 'Oscorp' ploy - villains (and thus the film as a whole) work a hell of a lot better with their own motivations and whatnot, being far more interesting than attributing everything to Oscorp.
Rant over.
TheDarman
TheDarman - 7/9/2014, 4:16 PM
@DrDoom What is bad to you isn't bad to everyone else. Stop pretending that your word is fact. However, it is no more or less factual than my opinion so I can't tell you to start liking good movies. So, I'll just say I find it good and I find it an accurate representation of Spider-Man even if you don't and that doesn't mean I don't know who Spider-Man is or am not I real Spider-Man fan. ^_^
TheDarman
TheDarman - 7/9/2014, 4:17 PM
@TheSonOfKrypton I agree, I'd like a little bit more creativity from the franchise. However, I feel like since we've gone so far in, it kind of has to be OsCorp for now. So I figured that I would just use the conclusion of the trilogy to get rid of OsCorp so we can focus on other things.
UltimateCookie
UltimateCookie - 7/9/2014, 6:02 PM
No doubt The Amazing Spider-Man 2 was awful but the franchise has so many good elements that I like that I will no doubt go see ASM3 just in hopes they fix the movies.
DatNerdyKid
DatNerdyKid - 7/9/2014, 9:42 PM
'The Amazing Spider-Man 2' was the best Spider-Man film we have received to date. Including that 1970's one. Haters come at me :P
staypuffed
staypuffed - 7/9/2014, 10:14 PM
I only read the first paragraph, but I don't think TASM3 will start at the end of TASM2. I think that ending was just meant for excitement, to get adrenaline built up within the audience, then leave them on the edge of their seats. I'll read the rest of this later.
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 7/9/2014, 10:19 PM
TASM 3 i still think it has a small chance of being "good". I just felt gutted after watching TASM 2.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 7/10/2014, 8:26 AM
TheDarman
TheDarman - 7/10/2014, 11:12 AM
@DrKinsolving

1. Peter Parker was never portrayed as an ugly nerd, just socially awkward. In fact, he is actually, particularly through the Romita era, portrayed as being quite handsome.

2. Cast romantic comedy director in order to also craft a better love story than the fake ass crap that was in the first trilogy especially since it is so integral to the the tale of Spider-Man.

3. Peter Parker always starts out being an irresponsible douchebag. It is what gets his uncle killed. He is supposed to be a screw up but once he learns that lesson, he becomes a much better person. We, however, don't see Peter interact with his peers as much following his transformation into Spider-Man (which we also didn't see in the originals, which I feel needs to be corrected).

4. And if they didn't kill Gwen Stacy then everyone would be bitching about it not happening. "See, SONY has no respect for the source material!"

5. Admittedly, this one is a fault in the films but I think it is a way of just ensuring that we can juggle multiple villains in Spider-Man's universe and, despite the lack of creativity with it, it means we can also get lesser known villains, perhaps without the origin of OsCorp.

6. Honestly, they just made Harry Osborn into his father in terms of his personality. I think that works fine as it raises the personal stakes for Peter as it is his best friend who killed his first love and not Norman Osborn, who is only connected to him, personally, through Harry. It just removes that one degree of separation and makes for a tighter connection.

7. Green Goblin doesn't look adorable. The one piece of concept art above may look like it (which may be why they went with it) but it certainly doesn't look adorable. If anything, Raimi's Goblin and the actual costume looks a lot more adorable. The TASM2 Goblin looks freaky as all hell.

8. Peter WAS a douchebag before he learned how to use his powers. However, I never saw him act in any way "douchebaggy" in The Amazing Spider-Man 2 nor did I see him act that way in The Amazing Spider-Man following the bridge scene. The problem is that Peter Parker doesn't get to interact with much of his supporting cast outside of Harry, which mostly focuses on the origin of Green Goblin, and Gwen, which he should have an entirely different relationship with than everyone else.

9. I don't know why this is posted twice but see above.

10. Spider-Man has always been a little bit trollish in the costume. He cracks jokes at the villains' expense, he beats them up and he pulls down their pants. We see it all the time in every iteration except for Raimi's who resembled Batman more than Spider-Man in terms of the stiffness of his personality. So, I guess you could take that to the extreme and call him a douchebag but I don't understand how saving people and then cracking jokes about people who are trying to kill other people is being a douchebag.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 7/10/2014, 11:49 AM
@Darman456

We have different views on how Spiderman/Peter Parker was portrayed in the movies, how spiderman should be portrayed, and what Spiderman means and what he stands for. So, I'll avoid 1-3 so that we both don't get a headache

4. I don't think you understood the humor here.... I could picture Sony reps sitting in a room and saying, "let's kill Gwen Stacy, because, you know, it happens in the comics, and it didn't happen in Raimi's version, so let's do that, don't worry about all the other key elements were changing, that doesn't matter, this scene will bring the fans of the comics". Of course I wanted to see it happen, but in a well-written story. I still feel like this movie and reboot had to much input form Sony marketing reps that know nothing about Spiderman.

6. I don't feel as if there was enough development for Norman. Webb also wasted the talent of Dane Dehaan, in my opinion.

7. Are you comparing Willem Dafoe's performance or costume? I do think Raimi should have taken the mask off of Dafoe, but Dafoe depicted an insane (literally) Norman Osborn, he also has one of the most expressive faces in hollywood. He also had more screen time and character development in SM 1, comparing his performance to Dehaan's is unfair to Dehaan in my opinion because Dehaan never had a chance to develop the character. Also, there are so many more horror elements to Raimi's version and fight scenes.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 7/10/2014, 12:27 PM
@Darman456

Btw, in TASM 2, what gives Goblin his powers and strength? Is it his suit or was it the combination of his dna and spiderman's blood?

Serious question, I do not know. I think it was the suit that was healing him and giving him his powers right? If the suit wasn't there he would died, right?
TheDarman
TheDarman - 7/10/2014, 1:43 PM
@DrKinsolving

1st Post:

4. No I get that. However, I think it works, at least from a dramatic standpoint, better to have Peter's best friend be the one to kill his girlfriend because it has a higher sense of betrayal and anger. I think the story was pretty well-written but I think, honestly, the movie would've worked better if they hadn't done anything with Electro (or, rather, just eliminated any "depth" they tried to do because Electro is a pretty dull villain) and focused on Harry's transformation into the Green Goblin. So, I think, at least that part, was really well written and having Peter and Gwen's relationship would've been great as another story to coincide with it.

6. Ah, I felt like this version of Norman was just there to be a shadowy boss of a whole bunch of nasty stuff. I was hoping for more development but given that they basically passed all the essential traits for Green Goblin from Norman to his son, it wasn't really necessary for Norman to be kept around. Given how much it helps the dramatic involvement in the story to have it be Harry, it makes sense to have that shift.

7. I was comparing to his costume. Clearly, Dafoe is still the best Goblin we've had on the big screen. I think DeHann might have been able to do something good and unique with it if the scene in OsCorp had still occurred and, obviously, if he had been able to perform a little more than a two minute fight sequence with Spider-Man. I think the look of the costume itself is way more frightening. The fight between Spider-Man and Harry, though, I felt was much more intense than anything Raimi had had mostly due to the high stakes. I never really felt like the characters were in danger in Raimi's film besides Uncle Ben. In Webb's version, it gives a sense of danger in every situation because of how many people have died. So, it's just personal preference but I prefer that there are consequences to these fights and that makes DeHann more of a threat, at least in his ending sequence, than Dafoe in his. Still, though, I agree DeHann didn't really have much to work with as the Goblin though I thought he received a decent amount of development as Harry.

2nd Post:

I think it is actually a combination of the two. The spider venom, I think, enhanced his muscle strength and what he was able to do but the serum was killing him. The suit gave him life support and provided the tech edge to him. If the suit wasn't there, he definitely would've died there but he had learned that the suit had life support capabilities and I think he used it for that reason. I can't be absolutely sure though. Orci and Kurtzman often don't explain everything in their plots.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 7/10/2014, 2:21 PM
@Darman456

I definitely didn't feel any sense of danger in TASM 2, even with the deaths, because there wasn't enough character development. It was more like, we know Gwen will die, so when will it happen.... for me, the movie was more comedic on so many levels, I laughed in the theater a lot, wifi on the plane 10 years ago?, when the calculator opened up and had coins in it, the list can go on, and on....

Initially I also wasn't comparing Raimi and Webb, I was simply saying that TASM 2 was RUSHED, badly written, and missed many of the key elements of Spiderman, and, the presence of the Sony Marketing Reps

DatNerdyKid
DatNerdyKid - 7/11/2014, 4:14 AM
@AlphaAndDecima

Please explain your statement, I am o so curious to hear what you have to say.
DatNerdyKid
DatNerdyKid - 7/12/2014, 1:35 AM
@AlphaAndDecima

*cracks fingers*
So I hear you saying...these films need to be EXACTLY like the comics and have to represent things in exactly that way...
I am by no means saying that the film is without faults. Kafka/Aleksei were insufferable in the small scenes they appeared in. Max (moreso than Electro) annoyed me a bit but I found him less bothersome than other critics/viewers made him out to be. I do recognise certain script issues and inconsistencies such as the vanishing visions of George Stacy and the somewhat tedious back-and-forthedness of Peter and Gwen's relationship. HOWEVER. Do you really want Peter to be TOTALLY all-knowing and know EXACTLY what to do in every situation? In other terms, he's kinda...'inhuman' (and not in the crossover way). NO-ONE is perfect.
Are there things I don't like about this film? Yes, absolutely. Would I change those things? Absolutely-the one change I wish could be made would be for Electro to take some characterisation cues from the 'Power to the People' storyline a few years back. But the fact is, I SIMPLY LIKE IT BETTER than what we've gotten previously.
'The Amazing Spider-Man' is either very close behind this at number 2 or possibly tied. The next two I cannot quite decide the order of. There's 'Spider-Man 3' (*shock!*); while it introduced a few unnecessary characters, halfhearted plot points and questionable character decisions, the action was fulfilling, a resolution to the Harry arc was...provided, and however comic-inaccurate he was, Topher Grace as Eddie Brock was damn entertaining to watch. Then the original 'Spider-Man', the film in which I found Tobey Maguire at his most annoying (I really, REALLY do not like Mr. Bug Eyes). Pre-Alcide Joe Manganiello brought no HINTS of depth to Flash Thompson (yes, I am saying Chris Zylka did that), the suit was inconceivably illogical (beautiful so it was, how the hell could a kid just out of high school make that?! At least Garfield went through stages) and I felt no connection between Peter and the late Cliff Robertson's Uncle Ben. J.K. Simmons and a totally unhinged Willem Dafoe save the film however.
There's one I'm forgetting...oh that's right. The single dick ridden so often by other fanboys it should start charging $250 an hour. 'Spider-Man 2'. Wow. Kirsten Dunst manages to be more annoying here (not a fan of her in the third film either) and the illogical and unexplained "I'm suddenly losing confidence so my powers go away and I can be normal, then they come back when I need them so I can fight the villain!" is laughable. Alfred Molina does fine and his 'Jekyll/Hyde'-esque struggle is real, but I just don't buy the whole 'mentor' angle. And the sudden self-sacrifice at the end that leaves A HUGE FUSION ENERGY BALL IN THE OCEAN. WHAT.
Aaaaanyway, we simply have different tastes in films. I like what I like for certain reasons, you don't for your personal reasons, and that's FINE. But don't pity or deride me for my choices just because you see yours as 'better'-they're not 'better', just different.
Have a nice day.
DatNerdyKid
DatNerdyKid - 7/12/2014, 8:59 PM
@AlphaAndDecima I'm not going to refute your points-I understand where you are coming from and frankly, there simply isn't enough time in the day. However I would ask you a question-have you seen two videos by a guy on Youtube named BelatedMedia, 'What if Star Wars Episode I Were Good?' and 'What if Star Wars Episode II Were Good?'. As previously mentioned I DO have issues with the Webb films and for awhile have been interested in doing 'What if *insert movie* Were Good?' for several franchises, the two Webb films included. When I finally have the time I believe I will do those first. I simply wanted to inform you so that maybe, one day, you'll find them, and tell me what you think about how I chose to do things.
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