The Amazing Spider-Man : Countering The Complaints and Whining

The Amazing Spider-Man : Countering The Complaints and Whining

In this article I will attempt to counter some of the cynical point of views being hurled at this movie.

Editorial Opinion
By Ashes2Phoenix - May 08, 2012 03:05 PM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic

In this article I will attempt to counter some of the cynical point of views being hurled at this movie.

1) Bad CGI: This is possibly the most ridiculous statement of all. If you have seen the new trailer, the CGI looks breathtaking. Especially when he fires the web-shooters to spring himself threw the air. The clarity is amazing and I have no doubt it will be incredible in 3D. If you think the CGI looks bad in this, it is time to go to the opticians.




2)Bad Suit: The suit looks fine and more importantly looks like something a teenager would design. It is stylised and looks great in motion. The amount of detail on the costume is mesmerising.
I personally can see why they chose the texture of this costume. It has a large amount of detail and I think it will make the 3D experience exceptional. I personally went from not liking the new costume, to preferring it to the Sam Raimi version. It just looks so crisp in these pics and extremely vibrant.




3) It is in a high school setting, so it will be immature: That is a stupid comment to make. Just because it is based in high school does not mean the themes are immature. Chronicle was set in high school and many of the themes in that film were very adult. What people take for granted, is that even though the film may be directed towards a younger demographic, it doesn't mean it is going to only have themes based on that demographic. We have all been in high school, so in my view that makes the film relatable to any audience range.

Most blokes won't admit this but back in high school, most of us stuttered or mumbled when trying to speak to the class hottie. We have also all gone through the trials and errors with friendships and social clicks. By the looks of it Peter will be no different, in this film. He will become nervous around the girl of his dreams. He will stutter when suddenly put on the spot by the persistent doorman.

People think that because you no longer go to school, you can't relate to it but that is not the case in the slightest. There will be situations and scenarios that we have all gone through at that age (minus the spider bite).



4) There is nothing genre breaking in this film, in regards, to the action: Wrong. The fact that this film is utilising 3D to its full potential, can make the action groundbreaking. I saw the new trailer in all its 3D glory and my jaw-dropped. I have never seen such smooth 3D before, like I did with that trailer. Especially during the first person sequences. The sense of vertigo was astounding.

The fluidity of Spider-Man's movements are phenomenal. What strikes me the most is the visual style they have gone for with this film. In this the CGI is vibrant and has very sharp distinctive colour themes. Especially, the colour red. That is very much Marc Webb's style. I remember watching an interview on 500 Days of Summer and apparently the colour blue is a very predominant colour throughout. The reason why Webb chose to do this was because he was amazed by Zoey Deschannel's piercing blue eyes.

Webb is very artistic and you can see that flare in this film. I personally really like the visual style and think the burning car scene is visually striking and interesting.




5) I hope this flops, so Marvel gets the rights back: While I can agree it would be cool to see Spidey make his way to The Avengers, it means Marvel would have to do a reboot as well. Also, I would just like to add The Spectacular Spider-Man show was made by Sony and the new show Ultimate Spider-man is made by Disney/Marvel. I much preferred Sony's take than Marvel's, so I am quite happy for Sony to hold on to the rights personally.


6) The origin is like Ang Lee's Hulk: It won't be similar and heres why. If you study the trailer you can see very clearly that Peter's dad loves him. I don't think he would sacrifice his son to his research like Bruce's, Dad did in Hulk. I am really starting to buy into a theory someone posted on this site. Peter is unwell, maybe dying of cancer. His father desperately looks for a way to find a cure. Eventually he does and gives it to Peter, using genetically enhanced Spider's DNA. Peter is then bit and the cancer that was suppressed by the formula, mutates but instead of killing him his cells completely transform and voila we have our Spider-Man.

I mean I am no scientist but I feel something along these lines would actually work quite well. It would also tie nicely into the symbiote story in the Ultimate comics. Maybe Ricard's first attempt is the symbiote but decides it is not ready yet and will not risk using it on his son.

I mean the origin could be as simple as Richard designed the spider that bites Peter but my point is. Many have complained you want something new. Well, here it is, your wish has been granted. I want something new and if it brings more science into the story then I am personally all for it.



There are more complaints but these are the recent ones. After seeing the new trailer I personally can't see why some are not excited about this film but it is their opinion at the end of the day. With each trailer, this film has gained my and many others approval.

The thing is, I feel people have become even more annoyed now because this actually looks really promising. It was cool to hate the film a year ago but now it is not. Some people continue because they don't want to look like an idiot for retracting their statements. This whole " they should have done Spider-Man 4" thing is just pathetic now. The general premise for that film, sounded like it was going to be worse than Spider-Man 3, which would have completely destroyed the franchise.

This reboot is a good thing and it is a fresh start. The Raimi films aren't going anywhere, so there is no need to get all defensive about them. I liked the first, two Raimi films and appreciate them but it is now time to give this film some respect. By hating on it you are only hurting yourselves in the long run.

Yes, this film could be an absolute train-wreck but stating it is before it is released is stupid. It could turn out to be the best of the bunch, only time will tell. My point is, I feel it should be given a chance to prove itself.
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Thanos005
Thanos005 - 5/8/2012, 3:24 PM
Since the internet is a means for putting input into everything, I will also address the points you made and add my two cents.

1. Very true. CGI is well done. Even if people don't like CGI to begin with, it is well done.

2. It is a matter of opinion. I don't care one way or the other, but if someone doesn't like it, they don't have to. It is their opinion, same way liking it is yours.

3. Eh. I just don't want to see the origin again. The high school scenes were really boring in my opinion in the Sam Raimi movies.

4. The 3D was done quite well. And if people don't like 3D, then don't watch it in 3D. They will have 2D screens.

5. Hoping for a movie to flop is immature and dumb. TASM is/was my least anticpated movie for this summer behind Avengers, TDRK and MIB 3, but still, I hope it is just as successful as each of those movies. (assuming they are all successful of course.)
Zarog
Zarog - 5/8/2012, 3:37 PM
Here's the thing, I want bad films to flop so that we don't continue to get bad films. If TASM is good, I hope it does well. If it really is a terrible movie, I hope it doesn't make money, so that someone with a good interpretation of the character can make the movie that the character deserves.

My big complaint has been the characterization of Dr. Connors. "Ready to play God?" Yeah, 'cause that's something his character would say. They've made him seem to be a jerk and that ruins the entire point of him as a villain. He's supposed to be sympathetic. Any way that's my major gripe with the movie. Also, I'm just not a fan of the way the Lizard looks. I know it's being based more off the original Kirby interpretation, but it just doesn't seem to translate well to the big screen.
Ashes2Phoenix
Ashes2Phoenix - 5/8/2012, 3:41 PM
@Zarog: I feel many people feel this way about Curt Connors but I don't think he will be a straight up villain like everyone thinks. There was an interview about it with Rhys Ifans that gave off a very promising premise. Hold on I will try to find it and post it up for you. :)
IISuperSlothII
IISuperSlothII - 5/8/2012, 3:45 PM
I must say i am really looking forward to this film, as the general reason spiderman is my favourite superhero is his quips, i just prefer that style, which is what put me off about raimis films, especially the fact he at one point decided to add in a half hearted attempt at one in spiderman 2 in the bank.

i agree with every point you make, i can see a few issues as said by zarog with the lizard looking off, i do think the snout would of been a btter inclusion.

im just hoping in the next film they cast this guy as the vulture, he looks ripped from the comic books.

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Ashes2Phoenix
Ashes2Phoenix - 5/8/2012, 3:50 PM
@Zarog:

The actor explained that he's a big fan of his "The Amazing Spider-Man" villain The Lizard because of his complexity. Unlike other villains that serve as foils to their superhero counterparts, Ifans has said that he think he and Spider-Man have a "moral" bond, and shared this time around why he thinks Connors is such a special character.

"The majority of comic book villains are pure evil, but Curt Connors is an exception," he explained. "Curt Connors is a good man who initially wants to save the world but he gets hungry and greedy and reckless and he pays the price for that."

So I am assuming that he will start off as a good guy and then once the transformation begins to set in, his personality will become twisted. I don't know if you know this and if you don't want to know stop reading from this point on.




In The Amazing Spider-Man game, Dr Connors is seen helping Spider-Man. So he is obviously not a bad guy like the trailers are suggesting.


Zarog
Zarog - 5/8/2012, 3:58 PM
That's interesting, but again is a failure of the character. Even though it's better than what I thought, they're still breaking the character. Connors in human form is always a good person. The serum never did anything to him while he was still Connors.

As for the game, it takes place following the events of the movie, so I'm assuming they cure Connors.
Ashes2Phoenix
Ashes2Phoenix - 5/8/2012, 4:09 PM
@Zarog: Whilst I appreciate you want the Connors from the comics, it is probably worth some of the change. I mean a great example of how well change can work is Heath Ledger's Joker. He didn't fall into acid or anything like that and the change actually payed off.

Zarog
Zarog - 5/8/2012, 4:18 PM
Ummmmm........The acid is not official as his origin. His official origin is unknown. Just like in the movie. Also, I think Heath did well with the character he was given, but that was not the maniacal Joker I remember. I prefer the one from the comics still. I also prefer the one from the Arkham games. Yes, it worked, and I'm not saying that a reinterpretation of Connors won't, just that I prefer staying truer to the source material. Making characters that capture the personality and essence of their comic counterparts is important to me. That's part of the reason I really want Spider-Man back at Marvel Studios. They've been very faithful to their other characters, while I wouldn't say that for many other companies and the properties they have made movies of.
Ashes2Phoenix
Ashes2Phoenix - 5/8/2012, 4:25 PM
@Zarog: To certain extent I agree but I also disagree. If I want something true to the comics, I will read the comics. Like the comics there have been many different interpretations of the characters, so why would the films be any different ? In the Ultimate comics, Curt Connors is a really shady character if I remember correctly.

I want something fresh from these characters because we have already seen it in the comics.
Zarog
Zarog - 5/8/2012, 4:51 PM
@ashes To each his own. It's just what I would prefer to see. I hope they make the movie well, and if it is a new interpretation of Connors, I hope it's good. I'm just currently very skeptical due to what I've seen in the trailers.
TonyChu
TonyChu - 5/8/2012, 5:52 PM
I can see where people say the CGI is bad, I don't think it is but it does look a bit choppy. A guy at work was saying the same thing today as well. But the movie is a month and a half away so I can see room for improvements. Now regarding the suit, I was on the fence about it but if I can get past Caps suit in the Avengers I can manage this. And the complaint about it being in high school is ludicrous because in fact in the early age of Spiderman comics he was still in high school. Can this film be groundbreaking? Maybe. Marc Webb is great with character interactions and development so the dynamic between the characters should be very interesting and not to mention Andrew Garfield is a great up and coming actor. So like I have been saying don't judge a book by its cover. Although I will say out of the big three summer comic book movies this is on the bottom, Spidey has to go against the Avengers and not to mention the GOD DAMN BATMAN!
TheNameIsBetty
TheNameIsBetty - 5/8/2012, 6:54 PM
While I admit that the trailer is interesting, especially since it promises a new beginning for Spider-Man, I'm just not convinced that Andrew Garfield IS Peter Parker.

Call me crazy, but Toby Maguire just became the character, and all too well. Even if the witty side of Spidey was toned down and he looked a tad bit goofy sometimes, moments like the train scene and his fight with Green Goblin made him Spider-Man. I remember the part where the people pulled him into the train, and that one guy said, "He's just a kid...no older than my son." That made Maguire Spider-Man for me. It was just too perfect.

Maybe this movie will change my mind. I'm reserving judement for the most part
Minotauro
Minotauro - 5/8/2012, 9:52 PM
It'll be fine. Just hope it continues its run once TDKR comes out. But It'll do fine. I'm guessing a over 140 Million dollar opening weekend, finishing with aleast around 700 million by mid july.
travispipes
travispipes - 5/9/2012, 4:08 PM
Fantastic article. I completely agree. I also have to add this may be the most well written editorial I have read on this site in terms of structure, etc.
Ashes2Phoenix
Ashes2Phoenix - 5/11/2012, 4:31 PM
Thanks guys !!! ^^
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