The 'BIG FIVE'-my thoughts on the upcoming STUDS-DUDS.

The 'BIG FIVE'-my thoughts on the upcoming STUDS-DUDS.

TDKR, The Hobbit, Avengers, Spidey Reboot and Ghost Rider 2-Justsomeawesomeguy gives you his thoughts on it all.

Editorial Opinion
By sonofsamadams - Aug 15, 2011 12:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic

I gave up on this site a few weeks ago from reading all of the ignorant, sad, and botomline silly commments from many users complaining about a few set pieces from a few upcoming movies. It's pathetic really to judge a movie by seeing a couple on set pictures and videos filmed from camera phones. Really. Judge the movie by the trailer, but the way the filmakers describe how they're making the movie. Not from the leaked set pics. It makes me judge some people's intelligence on this site. So I took a month break. But with a month passed and a lot of news being stuffed into this site like a thanksgiving turkey, This is MY thoughts on the 'Big 5'.




*THE STUDS*

1. The Dark Knight Rises


When I first saw the trailer before Harry Potter's epic finale, I got the chills. The trailer was edited to perfection, and one couldn't ask for more; its clear that the suspense and mystery (pun intended) rises. Now I haven't seen this many people complain on a site about a specific topic since the 2008 presidential election. But seriously, I've only seen fanboys complain about the many set pictures and videos leaked from Pittsburgh. Many mainstream people are getting more and more hyped by the site of it. The 'Batwing' or 'Hoverbat' looks epic and fantastic. The design is really interesting and it only wants you to wonder the whole origin behind it when Foxx explains it to Bruce. Catwoman's Suit looks alright to me. But it looks more of a prototype rather than the actual costume. The only hate is really coming off of this site. Many users are die hard comic fans that really want their movies to stick true to the comics. Not every CBM is gonna do that, people. Nolan has given us a dark, more realistic twist on the Dark Knight Detective and its soared the hero's popularity to the number 1 spot in the world.


Now I will say this, Nolan isn't the greatest director ever. No not even. In my opinion Steven Spielberg is at the top, but one could list Nolan as being the greatest in the past 5 years. No other director has really made better movies in the past five years than Nolan. The guy knows how to make a movie; its no doubt. But to go as far as saying hes the best of all time? Psssh. Think it through people.

But from what I've seen and by the trailer, and the set pieces, The Dark Knight Rises is looking like the movie event of summer 2012. It is extremely hard not seeing this movie with a 150 million + opening weekend. Now with this 'third movie curse'? I call bullshit on that. Some Marvel fanboys are calling this 'Spider-man 3 Nolan style'. HA!

By the time Spidey 3 turned around the corner, the filmakers hated their jobs. But the studio offered them boat loads of cash and thus they gave us a steaming pile of shit. With The Dark Knight Rises, these people are more dedicated to their line of work. Nolan wanted to do 3 Batman movies, much like Lucas wanted to do 3 star wars movies 30 years ago. And Nolan's track record is quite impressive,and he wouldn't risk his reputation with the the conclusion to his trilogy. I've even seen comments stating that TDKR would come up and be the X3. That's goin to far. First off, X3 had a different director, a different style and different pace compared to its predecessors. That's why it sucked.

Bottom line: TDKR will either be just as good, if not better than TDK.






2. The Avengers



My anticipation level is extremely high for this movie. Marvel Studios granted us the memorable and modern classic Iron Man, the pretty good but not great Incredible Hulk, The lackluster Iron Man 2, an Amazing Thor, and a solid Captain America. The trailer at the end of Cap's credits was a sheer adrenaline rush for me. It really was. Thor's new look is freaking fantastic, but I wished they would have shown more Hulk :(

My only fear I have with this movie is that it might take the 'X-men route'. Now I know some of you are confused with that term, so let me explain. The 'X-men Route' means that the filmmakers will center the movie on ONE character, and make the others morely co-stars. That's the vibe I somewhat got from the mini-teaser. There was more Iron Man and Thor than Cap and Hulk. Well, all we saw of Hulk was bruce Banner taking off his glasses :/. The X-men trilogy really wasn't the X-men we knew from the comics. It was more like 'Wolverine and the gang'. If The Avengers is to take this route, their 'wolverine' would most likely be Iron Man. And if Stark is leading this team, that would be disappointing. It should be Cappy. If this is to happen, I'll be let down, but I'll still be pumped nonetheless. Come on. Its Marvel's 'Justice League'. Its gotta be good. If I had to rank the Marvel Studio's works it would be this:

Iron Man
Thor
Captain America
The Incredible Hulk
...
Iron Man 2

...hopefully the Avengers is at the top of this list.

Bottom Line: The Avengers, if it doesn't take the 'X-men route', will be Marvel Studio's best to date. But if it does take the X-men route, It would ahve the potential to be a fantastic summer popcorn flick.






3. The Hobbit (Part 1)


Personally, I'm more pumped for this over the Avengers. However, since there is little news on this movie, I have to put it at third place. Peter Jackson is another man who knows how to make a movie. He worked wonders with Lord of the Rings and King Kong. Now the Hobbit (Part 1) is upcoming. I get the shivers just by thinking about it. The movies proved extremely faithful to their source material, and their extended cuts practically crammed everything from their source material into four hours. Anyway, the team behind The Hobbit looks more dedicated than they did when they worked on the Lord of the Rings trilogy a decade ago. Peter Jackson knows what he's doing, and he would never dismantle one of the most iconic books in the past century. I'm not too worried about a failure or disappointment. I'm concerned about a trailer release date :)

Bottom Line: with Peter Jackson and his team behind it, The Hobbit has a promising future.





*THE DUDS*

1. Ghost Rider 2: Spirit of Vengeance.


Now Apparently the trailer is to debut this week. Trailer or not, I could really give a damn. This is gonna be the flop of the year, folks. Its hard to imagine this movie making as much money as its predecessor did. Nicholas Cage's career went down the drain and into the garbage disposal a long time ago and now nobody wants to see his face on screen. The first movie was exactly a garbage disposal. Bad acting, a poor plot and flat visuals really made it a weak addition to cinema history. Its sequel has the opportunity to be marginally better, but overall a mainstream audience could give a crap. I predict a 10 million final domestic gross. If not, less. News for this movie has been near dead as its premise and for those who are really anticipating this movie, wait for it to come out on Itunes when its listed as 99 cent rental of the week.

Bottom Line:

I think Picard speaks for most of us :)



2. Last, but not least...the Medicor-oops I mean-Amazing Spider-man



Oh boy. here it is. The Amazing Spider-man. The news and details of this movie have been very underwhelming. I was giving this movie a chance before I saw the trailer. To me it reminds me of mirror's image. It really does, and I'm glad to know I'm not alone. It seems like Spidey is on a collision course for being the 'Twilight of CBMs'. Sam Rami's Spider-man and Spider-man 2 were fantastic and memorable CBMs, ones that will be cherished for years to come. The thing is, however, that if you were to read comments that say 'Oh Rami's spider-man were shit', most of the people that are saying that still have the bad taste in their mouth left by Spider-man 3. Yeah sure the third installment sucked, but that doesn't mean you can hate on the first two films that were ultimately great. It is way, way too early for a reboot and the fact that it has a 70% like on youtube is underwhelming as well. Green Lantern did disappoint many fans but the first trailer received a 96% like from the people. Many mainstream fans really want Tobey back and are scratching their head towards Garfield. Andrew is a good actor. There is no doubt about that. But as we've learned from the past, any good actor can be dragged into a trash of a movie.

The Amazing Spider-man is heading in the wrong direction. Sad to see this really, since Spidey is one of my favorite superheroes. If this movie is to fail, then many people wouldn't be surprised.

Bottom Line: It can huff and puff all it wants, but the Amazing Spider-man won't blow Rami's house down.

BOTTOM LINE OF IT ALL:

The Dark Knight Rises-Nolan's batman goes out with a bang, and much more
The Avengers-will make the Dark Knight sweat box office wise, but not in popularity. However it will be a fantastic CBM and hopefully bring on some promising sequels
The Hobbit-Jackson's magic will work again and it'll find a spot in the Oscars once again.
Ghost Rider 2-DVD Rental.
The Amazing Spider-man-Huge potential to disappoint, but it might sneak out and be as solid movie.



That's how I feel.

Thoughts, comments?
Let me know.
About The Author:
sonofsamadams
Member Since 5/17/2011
I'm not a huge Comic Book Geek, but the super hero movie genre has always excited me, and always will. I do not enjoy when people argue over CBMs like they're a religion, but i guess thats how most movie geeks are.

oh and if i had to really pic a side,
i mean really really really had to, then
DC, baby :)

but i really don't care about which is best. they both make me happy
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cable23
cable23 - 8/15/2011, 12:56 AM
I think the Amazing Spiderman is going to be well, amazing. I do understand that the Amazing Spiderman has not rubbed on to some of the fans yet. Nice Article though!
ScionStorm
ScionStorm - 8/15/2011, 1:51 AM
There were alot of things wrong with Raimi's films. I enjoyed the first because it was Spidey's first taste at the big screen and theme-wise it stayed steady. The second one was good too, but more of the same with Peter's all talk, no proof personality. It was the best of the franchise and had some really classic moments. But really. Just like Nolan's Batman films, it's not accurate to the comic. The interpretation of Doc Ock is about as respectful to the source material as Catwoman's new mask.

Sure the effects still need alot of polishing on ASM but we do have an entire year before the film is released so . . . And I believe is Mirror's Edge not image. Get that right if you want your argument to seem credible. I have no problem letting Tobey go. I had a problem with him from the beginning but I brushed it aside to enjoy raimi's films.

What is the proof that ASM is heading towards a twilight direction exactly?

Lastly, ASM is coming out 5 years after Spider-Man 3. I do NOT want to wait a decade to see him on the big screen again.
Jefferys
Jefferys - 8/15/2011, 2:27 AM
ScionStorm Intelligent points and ever so true.
incrediblesuperbatspider
incrediblesuperbatspider - 8/15/2011, 2:31 AM
Are you really going to base your opinion and judge the Amazing Spider-Man on one teaser trailer? To me, you sound exactly like the "sad, pathetic users" you complained about on your first paragraph.

Another thing, I don't get why there is so much hate on Iron Man 2. I think it's just popular to hate on it on this website. It was fun, enjoyable and heaps more watchable than The Incredible Hulk was.

"The Amazing Spider-Man is heading in the wrong direction"

You base this off of one teaser trailer?

What direction would you steer it to? There is a reason why writers and producers don't listen to fanboys. They know (most of the time) what works and what doesn't. They know things like plot, character development and the things that make a movie a roller coaster ride.

BTW,are you the same guy that wrote the article on ASM a while back stating that it will be "The biggest box-office CBM bomb in history"?

These types of statements are laughable, don't judge a movie until you see it man.
Jefferys
Jefferys - 8/15/2011, 2:58 AM
Just a random, I don't know, thought - Justsomerandomguy you stated in another forum that it's, quote 2 small accidents and you people are freaking out. This movie is a year a way people. A YEAR AWAY. and yet you complain here that you 'already' know that they are going to great and duds.

It could turn out that Avengers and TDKR flop and Spidey becomes a great movie and Ghost Rider is enjoyable. You are basically judging a book by it's cover.

How is that fair?
ScionStorm
ScionStorm - 8/15/2011, 3:07 AM
^lol, it's not even the cover. It's tidbits of edited story and an in-production teaser illustration. The book doesn't even have a cover yet. ;P
Jefferys
Jefferys - 8/15/2011, 4:41 AM
teabag do you have any women who do not have tatts down their arm, it made not stare at her things.
marvel72
marvel72 - 8/15/2011, 4:58 AM
i've notice more recently the thumbs up & down buttons are being clicked more often,the marvel vs dc has spread to that now.

best movies of 2012

1st the avengers
2nd the amazing spider-man
3rd the hobbit
4th the dark knight rises
5th ghost rider 2

@ teabag

is spot on nolanites take it too personal,if you don't like something in nolans batman films they see you as some kind of troll or a moron & just click the report comment button,you don't see marvel fans reporting nolanites or dc fanboys for not liking the avengers.
Jefferys
Jefferys - 8/15/2011, 5:05 AM
teabag - Those girls are a beaut!

marvel72 - No, we just have a go at them.
marvel72
marvel72 - 8/15/2011, 5:22 AM
@ jefferys

you should see some of the things i've been reported for most of it involing being negative towards the dark knight trilogy.

heath ledger got the oscar because he died,not for his acting ability.
bane looks shit.
catwoman looks shit.
the dark knight is overrated.
not liking bale's batman voice.

& so on,i don't get me wrong i think they're good films but not great.
HulkPool
HulkPool - 8/15/2011, 8:05 AM
When the trailer for Avengers was made they were not very far along into shooting, Maybe they have not shot enough footage to not center the trailer around a certain character.
As for the Hobbit, there is tons of news, Go To Hobbitin5.com you will find all the news you want.
Upgrayedd69
Upgrayedd69 - 8/15/2011, 8:08 AM
i dont really enjoy the raimi spidey films so im excited for the reboot. the first was ok, the second i didnt like and the third was awful. i am most excited for dark knight rises though. though i have some complaints about it, i trust that nolan will make an excellent film
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/15/2011, 9:16 AM
i think its funny how he talks trash to people for judging things when they haven't seen a trailer, yet goes on to say that Ghost Rider will be the biggest flop of the year without even seeing a trailer for it. lol
sonofsamadams
sonofsamadams - 8/15/2011, 9:21 AM
well think about it....its Ghost Rider 2. Nicholas Cage.
sonofsamadams
sonofsamadams - 8/15/2011, 9:21 AM
well think about it....its Ghost Rider 2. Nicholas Cage.
BooYah
BooYah - 8/15/2011, 10:24 AM
1)No way The Dark Knight Rises is as good or better than The Dark Knight
2) The Avengers teaser showed Iron Man and Thor the most so that means they are going the X-Men route? Judging much.
3) You are doing the same thing "the ignorant people" are doing by writing off Spidey and Ghost Rider

Bottom line: Take another month off.
superbatspiderman
superbatspiderman - 8/15/2011, 12:11 PM
I agree with you on all the points. The Amazing Spider-man is the one I am most hazy about because it is just way too early to tell spider-Man's origin again. We have seen and read about his orign hundreds of times so I think that will be where the new film will faulter in. The main thing that I think will be a redeeming quality for the film though is The Lizard because I have wanted to see him in a movie for as long as I can remember.

I doubt that I will see Ghost Rider in theaters becasue I didn't even see the first one in theaters I actually got it for free at the library then bought it later on for like 5 bucks. I think the movie could be entertaining tho because it has a darker tone and better directors. i just am not too keen on Nic Cage as Johnny. He did alright but I just think there could be a better choice.

I have no doubts that The Avengers, the Hobbit, and the Dark Knight Rises will be great films tho.
cable23
cable23 - 8/15/2011, 12:36 PM
@Marvel72 Im sorry but I have to disagree with you on the point thta Ledger won the Oscar solely because he died. Did it have some influence? Probally so. But credit is due where credit is due. Heaths Joker had people talking about it for months and has even gotten a cult following.
marvel72
marvel72 - 8/15/2011, 2:11 PM
@ cable23

yeah you're entitled to think what you like its your opinion,he was good in the role but i do believe if he had lived he wouldn't of got it.
headlopper
headlopper - 8/15/2011, 2:48 PM
Spider-man 1 & 2 were -are- classics! Raimi and cast did a good job bring Peter Parker to life.
@teabag- have you been knighted by the queen yet?
golden123
golden123 - 8/15/2011, 3:03 PM
@marvel72: I respect you as a user, and I think your one of the few sane ones on this website although I've noticed, you do an awful lot of complaining about the nolanites. I think you should just let it go. It's not like Galactus will knock you off CBM for just not liking something. Anyways, it's like you said everyones entitled to their own opinions. So why don't you just have yours and let the nolanites have theirs. Oh and by the way, their's been like five people who were deceased when they where nominated for their oscars that didn't win.
headlopper
headlopper - 8/15/2011, 3:08 PM
@teabag- no further questions your honor.
ScionStorm
ScionStorm - 8/15/2011, 3:24 PM
I keep hearing a policy at my college that if your roommate should suddenly die, you get an automatic pass in all your courses . . .
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/15/2011, 3:32 PM
@ scion

lol, thats the plot to Dead Man On Campus.
ScionStorm
ScionStorm - 8/15/2011, 4:13 PM
^It's an art college so you never know . . .
BigK1337
BigK1337 - 8/15/2011, 6:07 PM
@itsjustsomeawesomeguy
Lets concider the points you made:
1. The Dark Knight Rises - You basically said that it will be a better movie than The Dark Knight, and berate anyone who gives off a negative opinion on what they saw so far in production of the movie (just follow me with this one to the end). So pretty much, the whole idea of "In Nolan We Trust" is obviously plaguing your mind with this movie.
2. The Avengers - Have to agree with you on it being great. Though it is going to be iffy whether or not this movie will turn out good or not. I say, it will just be Captain America good; it would take on the X-Men route with Fury concidering the fact he is forming this team, but most of it is with the entire team.
3. The Hobbit - . . . It will be good, no doubt.
4. Ghost Rider - Yeah, Nicholas Cage is obviously the weakest link for this film; but it could be good as long as most of the scenes are just Ghost Rider and not his alter ego. If not, than this movie does suck.
5. Amazing Spider-Man - Remember the first comment about you berating people with negative comments? Well, why the [frick] are you judging this movie when it is still shooting? You didn't see it yet, how do you know it is going to suck? You might as well allow the people who thinks The Dark Knight Rises will suck in this comment sections; cause that moment there is pretty hypocritical of you.

Jefferys
Jefferys - 8/16/2011, 2:45 AM
BigK1337 - Reminds me of my points. Though yours were way better.

@ jefferys

you should see some of the things i've been reported for most of it involing being negative towards the dark knight trilogy.

heath ledger got the oscar because he died,not for his acting ability.
bane looks shit.
catwoman looks shit.
the dark knight is overrated.
not liking bale's batman voice.

& so on,i don't get me wrong i think they're good films but not great.


Marvel72 - Can you remember who reported you. I stalk the Public Square to much then I probably should, I could give a possible low down of almost anyone on here.
ScionStorm
ScionStorm - 8/16/2011, 3:48 AM
^Mindworm reported me for a picture of a fat cat in hore lips offering paid blow jobs.
Jefferys
Jefferys - 8/16/2011, 5:39 AM
Mindworm's the highest troll on this site at the moment and highest reporter on this site, while Run's is second, but that's mainly from Tea's and Marvel's comments.

ScionStorm you don't need to care about Mindworm
djohnpi
djohnpi - 8/16/2011, 7:08 AM
None of these movies are out yet so we don't know how good they will be. Also you have a crack pipe in your mouth when you say TDK will be better than AVENGERS. WOW. JUST ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH and TEA damm i like all dem girls I AM N LUV WIT A STRIPPER!!!!!!!!!!
BigK1337
BigK1337 - 8/16/2011, 8:08 AM
@jefferys

Honestly, I haven't really read any of your comments till now; just the typical "Great Minds Think Alike" type situation here.
Minato
Minato - 8/16/2011, 9:01 AM
To me its
1. The Avengers- Yes weve seen all these charactors before but not at the same time. This event is something that has never been done before. Im going to ride this one till the wheels fall off.

2. TDKR- I still hate the less than creative title but as a self professed "Nolanite" Im intrigued to see how this one turns out.

3. TASM- The first person web swinging turned me off to the whole project as of right now. I still reserve judgement until the final product is out.

4&5. I could care less about The Hobbit and Ghost rider

Now im going to go a lil off topic...
As a self professed "Nolanite" im still sketchy on the definition of the term. To me Nolan has put out great movie after great movie in the last 10 years including: Isomnia, The Prestige, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, and Inception. I really enjoy his movies tone, story and direction. It seems on this site that the term nolanite means that you would take a steaming pile of $#!t if he directed it. Thats not the case with me. His track record has been astounding IMO but that doesnt mean he cant make mistakes. I still judge his movies as their own singular projects. Does that still make me a "Nolanite"?

Can someone clear up the definition of this term in your own words?
Minato
Minato - 8/16/2011, 10:10 AM
Thanks @teabag & HailToKingBaby

To me opinions are like @$$ holes, everyone has one.
ScionStorm
ScionStorm - 8/16/2011, 1:33 PM
^It makes you human. ;)
sonofsamadams
sonofsamadams - 8/16/2011, 2:00 PM
So you're saying that Nolanties are a cult, eh? Than that must make Marvelites Catholics considering that they attack and threaten to kill anyone who doesn't agree with them.

I am no Nolanite. I'm a Spielberg fan. But the term Nolanite really is kinda lame. Well Spielberger is too, but 'Butt Hurt Nolanite'? Ha. Wouldn't Marvelites be butt hurt considering that Nolan's been [frick]ing them in the ass a lot lately...
ScionStorm
ScionStorm - 8/16/2011, 7:13 PM
Nolanites and Spielbergers. :P

No. They are not called "Marvelite". Doh! They are always called True Believers
sonofsamadams
sonofsamadams - 8/16/2011, 7:24 PM
Or as the Catholic church calls

*Heretics*
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