FANTASTIC FOUR Star Michael Chiklis Defends Much-Maligned Mid-2000s Movies: "A Lot Of [Critics] Got It Wrong"

FANTASTIC FOUR Star Michael Chiklis Defends Much-Maligned Mid-2000s Movies: "A Lot Of [Critics] Got It Wrong"

Fantastic Four star Michael Chiklis has defended the movies he starred in with Ioan Gruffudd, Chris Evans, and Jessica Alba, arguing that critics got it wrong with their take on the mid-2000s blockbusters.

By JoshWilding - Aug 12, 2025 05:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four
Source: Collider

Michael Chiklis played Ben Grimm, a.k.a. The Thing, in 2005's Fantastic Four and its 2007 sequel, Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer. They were moderate successes, but are widely regarded as a disappointing take on Marvel's First Family. 

Both movies have reentered the conversation thanks to the release of The Fantastic Four: First Steps from Marvel Studios, with plenty of younger fans discovering them for the first time. The discourse surrounding them has softened, with some enjoying that cheesier take on the team.

Talking to Collider, Chiklis reflected on his time as part of the Fantastic Four franchise and defended the movies. "There were a lot of people, I think, critically who got it wrong," the actor said. "They really maligned our films, and they were very underrated considering they were very loved by the audience."

"It was one of those cases where critics weren’t great to those films, but the audience was, and that still remains," Chiklis continued. "I’ve always sort of quietly gone like, 'Okay, say what you want to say, but the people see it.' And now all these years later, people are sort of acknowledging like, hey, these films are family-friendly, fun movies, they got a lot right. They may be imperfect, but they’re really good movies."

Chiklis is right that neither movie received positive reviews, as Fantastic Four has 28% on Rotten Tomatoes, with the sequel sitting at a slightly better, but still "Rotten," 37%. He'd later point out that, regardless of the reviews, both movies found success at the box office. 

"We made three quarters of $1 billion, those two movies," Chiklis noted. "So, you know, all those people can’t be completely out of their minds, you know what I mean?"

Fantastic Four and Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver made a combined $635.4 million, but 20th Century Fox decided against moving forward with a threequel. The characters were then benched until 2015's Fantastic Four reboot, which bombed with $167.9 million worldwide. 

Recently, Mister Fantastic actor Ioan Gruffudd opened up on the fact that a third instalment never happened. "The mindset was that we were going to do three, and I think the second movie was equally successful as the first and equally enjoyable for the fans," he explained. "I particularly loved working with Doug Jones [as the Silver Surfer] on that movie, who’s just a terrific artist and an expert in the field of movement."

"If you want to witness somebody bringing a character to life physically, he’s just untouchable. So there was definitely that sort of momentum, and the plan was to do three movies, but these decisions are beyond my control," Gruffudd added. 

Do you agree that these Fantastic Four movies from the mid-2000s are underrated? Let us know your thoughts in the comments section.

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Gambito
Gambito - 8/12/2025, 5:47 AM
Underrated for sure! The cast were the best part they had great rapport and great surfer
Too late for a cgi cameo in doomsday ???
SuperiorHeckler
SuperiorHeckler - 8/12/2025, 6:18 AM
@Gambito - Folks can point-and-laugh to their heart's desire at FF 2007 (and "yes", the 'Galactus-Cloud' was ridiculous!) but they got the Silver Surfer right. And TBH, Ioan Gruffudd looked closer to a comic-accurate Reed Richards than the Machismo' Stache guy ever could. 🤨
Mrnorth1921
Mrnorth1921 - 8/12/2025, 5:48 AM
The movies were far from perfect. Corny and dated. But at least they tried with what they had. They tried to capture what made the comics work. Did they succeed? No. But I respect them nevertheless for what they did. Say what you will about this films. I think Michael and Chris played the definitive Johnny and Ben Grimm.

Mind you! I loved the 2025 adaptation. However I felt Ben and Johnny’s portrays were good. They felt flat to me.
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 8/12/2025, 6:37 AM
@Mrnorth1921 - Did they try though? Because when I think of Fantastic Four comics, I think some of the most out there story premises there are, while the movies acted like Doom being a foreign tyrant with super-armor would have been too much.
Fogs
Fogs - 8/12/2025, 5:59 AM
The movies were good for the time. They have that mid-2000s vibe just like many others.

The Surfer was perfect.
DenvertheDino
DenvertheDino - 8/12/2025, 6:02 AM
I just watched these again with my kids after watching the new one. The 2005/2007 versions are a lot of fun. I prefer them to the new one.
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 8/12/2025, 6:34 AM
I'm not saying that those movies got nothing right. The sitcom-y tone wasn't unfitting of the material and both Chiklis and Evans were cast well. But, in turn, both Alba and McMahon were beyond miscast, the scripts weren't very good and for movies called *Fantastic* Four, they were very shy of every single sci-fantsy element from the comics.
Canyoublush
Canyoublush - 8/12/2025, 7:27 AM
@FinnishDude - 100% straight facts. I couldn’t agree more.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 8/12/2025, 6:41 AM
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BritishMonkey
BritishMonkey - 8/12/2025, 7:01 AM
I still say aside from getting Doom wrong in the first one, those films are more comic accurate than people want to admit. They're fun.
DS616
DS616 - 8/12/2025, 7:27 AM
"They are widely regarded as a disappointing take on Marvel's First Family."

This is complete nonsense. Both movies got the Fantastic Four right on the exact same level the Raimi Spider-Man movies did, AKA fun movies but not pitch-perfect comic accurate. It's always been such laughably pathetic hypocrisy seeing people overpraising one franchise while cluelessly trashing the other.

These movies did countless things better than First Steps did, and were financially more successful than 75% of all the other Marvel movies that decade, let alone were infinitely better movies than all of them as well.
AC1
AC1 - 8/12/2025, 7:33 AM
The first was goofy and fun, I recently rewatched it (maybe a year ago?) and it was fine - it wasn't anything mind-blowing, spectacular, or anything like that but it wasn't trying to be.

The second movie was more of a mess, kinda all over the place and a lot less enjoyable/rewatchable. But the Doug Jones/Lawrence Fishburn combo bringing Silver Surfer to life was a real highlight of that movie, even with all its problems.

But all in all I think First Steps really delivered in a way those movies couldn't. Had a few little problems but overall a fantastic reintroduction to the team and a number of the concepts related to them and the wider cosmic side of Marvel.

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