CBM Box Office Talk: Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance

CBM Box Office Talk: Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance

In this first part of the new CBM feature, we look at the upcoming film from directors Mark Neveldine and Brian Taylor, Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, as well as the box office numbers for the 2007 film. More after the jump...

Feature Opinion
By WolvieCBM - Nov 06, 2011 10:11 AM EST
Filed Under: Ghost Rider



With some big comic book, fantasy and science fiction movies coming out next year, I thought it would be interesting to talk about box office predictions, as well as looking back at some previous films that the new ones are connected. For example, today, this article is all about Mark Neveldine and Brian Taylor's Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, so we talk about that (you guys share your thoughts in the comment section, of course) and we take a look back at the first film from 2007 and try to compare them. But, if we're discussing Marvel's The Avengers, we'll talk about the solo films of the Marvel Cinematic Universe - THOR, Iron Man, Captain America...

I'm not sure how many parts will there be, but I'll write about John Carter, The Avengers, G.I. Joe: Retaliation, The Amazing Spider-Man, The Dark Knight Rises and more. So, let's get started.


In 2007, director Mark Steven Johnson brought us the first big screen adaptation based on the character of Ghost Rider, starring Nicolas Cage and Eva Mendes. It was a film that fans were looking forward to, even though Ghost Rider is not an A-list character in the Marvel library. But still, it was another comic book film that could open doors for more adaptations in the future. While the film received negative reviews from both critics and fans, it was still a solid box office success. On its opening day, Ghost Rider made $15 million, and it went on to gross $52 million over the four-day President's Day weekend (February 16 - February 19). It had a 55% drop in the second weekend, grossing another $20 million. During its theatrical run, Ghost Rider made $115.8 domestically and $112.9 million internationally for a total gross of $228.7 million. Budget was $110 million.

In February of 2012, Sony Pictures is bringing us a new Ghost Rider movie, titled Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance. Directed by Mark Neveldine and Brian Taylor (Crank, Gamer) and once again starring Nicolas Cage as Johnny Blaze. Film will have a different origin story and other things that are not connected to the 2007 adaptation, so it's not a direct sequel. Along Cage, we will also see Johnny Whitworth as Blackout, Ciarán Hinds as The Devil and Idris Elba as Moreau. Comic book films have become a lot more popular since the first movie, and Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance was shot with a lower budget. Now, could Neveldine/Taylor's unique style of filming help this film make a solid profit? Well, maybe. Opening on February 17, it will go against two films: McG's This Means War, an action comedy starring Tom Hardy, Chris Pine and Reese Witherspoon and Act of Valor, a war film directed by Mike McCoy. Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance is also in 3D, so it has a big chance to win that weekend with good numbers. I don't expect Thor, Captain America or First Class numbers, but my prediction for opening weekend is around $35-40 million. Also, a lot of it depends on reviews, because if there is anything we have noticed this year, is that if the reviews for comic book films are not good, then people might not go see it. So, what do you think? Will the film be a success or a box office failure?




Next time, I'll be talking about Andrew Stanton's John Carter, so stay tuned. And if you have some ideas on what else I could add to this new CBM feature, please let me know in the comment section.

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superbatspiderman
superbatspiderman - 11/6/2011, 10:42 AM
I think it will do relatively well if not really well because the first movie did pretty good even though it wasn't very good. This movie looks much better so I think it will do good. Another plus is that it won't compete witht he big movies because it is coming out earlier in the year.
BooYah
BooYah - 11/6/2011, 10:44 AM
I don't know, I'm still not looking forward to this movie. Looks as bad as the first imo.
superbatspiderman
superbatspiderman - 11/6/2011, 10:45 AM
Also I think the writing in this movie will be a lot better. The little speech Nic Cage gives at the begining of the trailer is pretty badass.
Bodwulf
Bodwulf - 11/6/2011, 10:47 AM
I like the idea of more CBM box office talk.
Ghost Rider gets alot of hate but coming from a comic with no stand out stories at least it was entertaining. I loved Cage's Elvis spin on the character and the wierdness of the Carpenter's music and M&Ms in a martini glass. Took a very boring Johnny Blaze and made him watchable. I think the edgier trailer will draw more folks. Another money making comic venture.
HULK2099
HULK2099 - 11/6/2011, 10:48 AM
Seeing the directors at NY comic con, boosted my confidence for this movie very much, I know it will do well
Kayo
Kayo - 11/6/2011, 10:53 AM
My wife love this character, so we're gonna go see this movie next year.
marvel72
marvel72 - 11/6/2011, 10:53 AM
i think it'll be alright,better than the first film.only thing that ruining the sequel is nic cage is back as johnny blaze they should of recast the role.

1st the avengers
2nd the amazing spider-man
3rd the dark knight rises
4th ghost rider 2

@ ELgUaSoN

batception classic,very funny.
MovieMaster
MovieMaster - 11/6/2011, 11:01 AM
i like the idea of more. not interested in john carter though, i'll read the rest though. looking forward to TDKR/Avengers/TASM specials.
WolvieCBM
WolvieCBM - 11/6/2011, 11:01 AM
@SUPERBATSPIDERMAN: Yes, I agree. It does look good, and I think it could easily beat both of those films that are coming out on the same day. Plus, it's in 3D, so...

@Bodwulf: Thanks man. I thought it would be interesting to this and see how it goes.
WolvieCBM
WolvieCBM - 11/6/2011, 11:01 AM
*do this*
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 11/6/2011, 11:03 AM
Yeah I think it will do ok..it certainly won't flop, but then that depends on how well they advertise it. The memory of the last movie doesn't sit well with most. But then you will get the crazy Crank action movie fans rushing to it anyway. Competition isn't too stiff. We'l see
GiftedYoungster
GiftedYoungster - 11/6/2011, 11:04 AM
Hate Nick Cage more than almost anything.
shadow314
shadow314 - 11/6/2011, 11:04 AM
I was really excited about this until the directors said they didn't even review the comics when makign the character Blackout. I mean, wtf?

The movie WILL be better, I don't know if it will be good enough though. I will be there opening day regardless of reviews though.
alucard365
alucard365 - 11/6/2011, 11:06 AM
Nobody wants to see Ghostrider this is just a waste of money.
ALmighty1080
ALmighty1080 - 11/6/2011, 11:15 AM
1 tdkr
2. amazing spiderman
3. avengers
4. ghost rider 2
ATOMbomb
ATOMbomb - 11/6/2011, 11:16 AM
I don't agree with them retelling the origin but I'm looking forward too this movie. I liked the first movie and I was hoping for a sequel, took a little time but I'm glad its happening. Now we need a sequel too Constantine!
MovieMaster
MovieMaster - 11/6/2011, 11:21 AM
1: TDKR
2: The Avengers
3: TASM
4: GR2
warlock
warlock - 11/6/2011, 11:27 AM
No It Will, Be like this # 1, Aveng ers, 2.Dkr, 3.spiderman and Grider,for a tie cuz there both basically Remakes, and both Directers are iffy, that spiman director, was a music video artest, and directed videos for 50cent nuff said!!!
warlock
warlock - 11/6/2011, 11:28 AM
Lol Batception.
gtwizzy
gtwizzy - 11/6/2011, 11:32 AM
i hope it do well
PaulRom
PaulRom - 11/6/2011, 11:32 AM
I'd be surprised if it does well at the box office. Movie does look pretty awesome, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's full of hit and miss dialogue amidst awesome action (ala Transformers, GI Joe, etc). It'll definitely make less than the first film, which hardly anyone liked, and the only thing I think can save it is good reception from the critics (which I don't think will happen). And don't get me started on how much the general public dislikes Cage's acting. But with the lack of any real competition for the weekend, it could do well until something bigger comes.

Good write up Wolvie.
GiftedYoungster
GiftedYoungster - 11/6/2011, 11:36 AM
@Pendaghast

When I was kid I had a DD shirt that had your avatar on it.

Good times.
WolvieCBM
WolvieCBM - 11/6/2011, 11:49 AM
@Arminies: Haha...Well, I really think it will make at least $35M. And that's all because of 3D and higher ticket price. If word-of-mouth is good, I can see it making even more. But we'll see.
GothamKnight01
GothamKnight01 - 11/6/2011, 11:51 AM
This will flop. Why?

The lead actor. XD
They'll kill ppowerful villians with in seconds.

Shall I continue?
Moonwalker1991
Moonwalker1991 - 11/6/2011, 11:52 AM
Can't wait for this. Only wish Cage was replaced with a younger actor so this could be the reboot we need for Ghost Rider. Honestly the only reason I might even rent the "first" one was because Eva Mendez is hot.
BooYah
BooYah - 11/6/2011, 11:54 AM
@Pendaghast- Didn't find it funny either. Not even clever its like saying Avengenity for Avengers and Serenity. Inception was an amazing movie if they want to compare TDKR to that they can go ahead. More like a compliment.

Anyways my list:
1) Avengers
2) TDKR

Not watching any other cbm's.
marvel72
marvel72 - 11/6/2011, 12:28 PM
@ booyah

its because most of the cast starred in inception,so for avengenity to work most of the main cast had to star serenity which they didn't.
Irons
Irons - 11/6/2011, 12:37 PM
In terms of box office, its almost a foregone conclusion that The Dark Knight Rises will top all those mentioned. TASM could probably beat The Avengers except for the fact that TDKR is opening 2 weeks after. Looking forward to seeing what you say about those three Wolvie.
AgentDelta
AgentDelta - 11/6/2011, 1:22 PM
Joseph Gordon Levitt, Michael Caine, Marion Cotilard, Tom Hardy, Cillian Murphy. That's five Inception stars in the third one! :P And I for one am actually looking forward to this! The first one gets way too much hate than it deserves.
marvel72
marvel72 - 11/6/2011, 1:32 PM
@ Pendaghast

five actors if cillian murphy returns.
marvel72
marvel72 - 11/6/2011, 1:33 PM
@ agentdelta

XD hahaha i've just clocked your comment.
OMY
OMY - 11/6/2011, 1:34 PM
Cage as ghostrider, Nope
BooYah
BooYah - 11/6/2011, 1:45 PM
@marvel72- Oh, I thought it was because Nolan is directing TDKR and he directed Inception. I was gonna say you can do that to any movie.
jbird18
jbird18 - 11/6/2011, 2:06 PM
Im going to see all of them the first weekend they are released. Im very excited to see what Joss Whendon does with the avengers.
1- The Avengers
2- The Amazing superman
3- TDKR
4- Ghost Rider 2
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