@manofillintent1 -

I like Ghost Rider, so I definitely would. 💀

@dracula - no I love Dragon Ball.

@RageDriver2401 - i loved it growing up as well, but it was mostly repetitive story beats and amazing action.

He couldnt possibly mess that up......could he

@dracula - if dragon ball evolution thaught me anything it's that yes, it's possible to mess that up. But still, I don't think snyder would be a good fit for a dragon ball movie. As you said, it's mostly action and fairly common story beats, zack would probably add deep sad themes, blurry shots and slo mo and make the whole thing difficult to get through. And mind you, those things could work great for other movies, but not for dragon ball imo.

After giving it a bit of thought, James Wan might be my first pick for a Dragon Ball franchise. The kind of Fast and the Furious vibe (with the glorification of violence as the solution to every problem but with interpersonal dynamics, usually macho bromances) does fit, and Wan seems to enjoy the opportunity for some goof and slapstick, too.

I didn't really like Aquaman, but I feel like I see the pieces for a good Dragon Ball movie in there (if it had a good script). Ideally, I'd like to see it build the franchise up from its roots before trying to jump straight to DBZ. Do a movie of young adult Goku's adventures to build the world, then maybe a movie that combines the Roshi training period and the 21st/22nd tournaments in a more traditional "sports movie" (maybe introducing King Piccolo as more of a murderous rival than a world-conquering demon, but retaining the tournament victory as the movie's main goal, think Rocky 4).

Then you do your time skip and start DBZ proper. It's a lot of material to get there, but I really do think that skipping the charm of Dragon Ball in favor of jumping straight to "the good stuff" is a mistake. (I actually think Dragon Ball Evolution showed signs of good intentions in that respect essentially replacing Pilaf with Piccolo, but the problems with that movie are wider and already well established.)

Streamlining Dragon Ball into two movies, focusing on building the Z Fighters up as an ensemble crew in a F&F kind of way, and making some tweaks to the aesthetic and overall vibe are all in Wan's wheelhouse, I think (with a good writing room, of course).

@CorndogBurglar - "focuses on really fast-paced action"

...Does it though? I get your point about the slow motion, but the magic of Dragon Ball to me is the dragged out pacing between the brief moments when there are actual punches being landed. Drawing out the Kamehameha because you know it's going to be a Big One. Charging a Spirit Bomb. Watching as a fighter transforms to new level of power.

It's the down time that sells those fights, I think. Makes them feel weighty.

@Spock0Clock - Those things I can see Snyder being good at, actually. But yeah, the actually fighting is done in very fast scenes.

@Toecutter -
I can even imagine "The Orb" in Stahelski's Ghost Rider.


He may be the leader of a psycho biker gang. A secondary villain.