Is it possible for DC to rival Marvel once again or is the war over?

Is it possible for DC to rival Marvel once again or is the war over?

Let's take a closer look at the big dogs of comics, DC and Marvel to see is there really a rivalry there anymore or are we flaming in a war that's already ended.

Editorial Opinion
By DevilFruit - Nov 02, 2016 12:11 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

It seems as if Marvel is just pulling ahead of DC every day. The days of a true DC and Marvel rivalry appears to haven't existed in a long time. If not for the fans the whole idea of a rivalry could probably already be put to rest. When looking at the studios directly competing it looks as if Marvel only loses a category due to omission. in other words Marvel simply hasn't focused on that particular market yet.

Merchandise is a lock due to Spider-man alone:


The graph is only a year old. Only missing 2015. in 2015 Marvel dominated with Daredevil season 1, Avengers:AoU, Antman and Jessica Jones. So i'm sure the 2014 pattern still holds up. There's no significant reason DC would have had a record breaking surge in merch without releasing anything in 2015. there's no numbers that proves otherwise. 2016 hasn't ended yet so there's no official numbers for it. So if you added all the rest of the MCU it's really not even a competition.

Movies, which is the most important category is really not even worth mentioning it's such a blow out. Quantity AND quality both in Marvel's favor. Also the MCU is the highest grossing franchise in history. What is it, like 11-12billion world wide with Doctor Strange coming in hot? 

TV? well let's just say Daredevil is the #1 watched show on Netflix. Just one of the Netflix series beats all of the DCTV core shows combined in ratings. Overall quality is a blow out in Marvel's favor. At this point Marvel TV is the #1 watched TV franchise period. Add to that all of Marvel's current and future shows will be in the same universe spanning over various pay for TV channels and streaming services and it's clear unless DC steps up there game big time it's over.



TV Cartoons: DC in the past had some of the best. But now...man. I guess DC is going over board with there new FUN, FUN, FUN business mandate. Justice League: Action, Teen Tians GO and the CGI Batman cartoon are all to kiddie to enjoy. Not saying Marvel's current slate are the best ever but I actually do enjoy there shared universe connected series. While I've never seen Teen Titans GO and i'm sure it'll be the same with Justice League: Action.

Comics will always be Marvel in sales. Rebirth gave DC a small spike but that's just it. a small spike. DC hasn't beat Marvel in 15 years in comic sales and they won't beat them now. The first month of Rebirth they won by 1% dollar share. second month 9%. third, 5%. That's not really a lot. Up until Rebirth Marvel on average has beatin DC by 15-20% dollar share for 15 years! Not only that but DC hasn't even really won those months. The Rebirth returnable comics causes DC's numbers to appear over inflated. Diamond is counting what retailers ordered not what customers bought. Retailers are ordering mass quantities making sure they don't run out without fear of being stuck with large amounts of back stock because they can return them all in later months. And there dirt cheap. Marvels percentage, on paper is lower but there doing good as they always have done. As of now(September 2016) for the year of 2016 Marvel is at 337% dollar share. DC is at 264% percent. Which means even if DC hits there highest monthly percent of Rebirth over Marvel which is 9% for the last three months of 2016 there still gonna lose for the year by about 50% dollar share. Marvel wins for 16 years in a row. Basically it's impossible for DC to win 2016 at this point. And the true win is actually worse than that because the returnable Rebirth titles makes DC's numbers look over inflated.

Comic sales is really a blow out in Marvels favor. Than after that it's down to preference.



Video Games: I've always thought of this as a tie. Due to DC having one really great game(Arkham series) and Marvel having more decent games overall. Some could make an argument for Injustice I guess. But after that for every DC game Marvel has a counter part. The Lego games, MMOs with most thinking Marvel Heroes is better, both are getting a Telltale series etc.. But here's where things get interesting. Marvel just launched the new Marvel Games division and immediately announced there answer to the Arkham series, the AAA, PS4 Spider-man title developed by Insomniac. Marvel is currently shopping it's IPs around to third party developers. They promised to announce more titles before the years end. In other words DC better step it's game up significantly or get left behind.

DVD animation: well DC pretty handedly. Marvel's focus has been elsewhere for the most part. DC wins by omission.

Is it even possible for DC to catch back up at this point? And what's the best way to go about doing it?
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blackandyellow
blackandyellow - 11/2/2016, 1:41 PM
@jimmyrustler and your other 17 accounts.

Please learn your homophones before writing another editorial.
tonytony
tonytony - 11/2/2016, 2:45 PM
@blackandyellow - exactly he has tons of accounts, its crazy because it undermines this site
Gjedi
Gjedi - 11/2/2016, 1:44 PM
oh..boy here we go...
MeAreLegend
MeAreLegend - 11/2/2016, 1:45 PM
Very well written article, even though I disagree to the most part
KingNomarch
KingNomarch - 11/2/2016, 1:49 PM
sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 11/2/2016, 1:51 PM
I thought DC was doing better in sales recently than Marvel? Oh well doesnt really matter. Both companies have my favorite characters in any medium.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 11/2/2016, 1:52 PM
For me, personally, sales excluded I'd break down the Marvel- DC rivalry as follows


Comics: Tie (both have their ups and downs
Graphic Novels: DC (By a landslide. Batman GN alone blow out anything done by Marvel)
Movies: Marvel (Not really a contest. Though DC has some really good ones, Marvel has built an empire)
Television: Marvel (A couple years back this would have been DC's but the Neflix series tip the scale)
Animation: DC (Not a contest. Marvel has some good ones but DC's shows and films are legendary)
Video Games: DC (Marvel has struggled in this department while DC has flourished, particularly with the Arkham series)
tonytony
tonytony - 11/2/2016, 5:08 PM
@MrDandy - go to my article its same topic but better than this nonsense. this dude is one of those who spends all his time jerking off to marvel and I inherently dislike these sorts of trolls
theredmeadow
theredmeadow - 11/2/2016, 1:54 PM
wow he must be on the Disney payroll...
Fanmar16
Fanmar16 - 11/2/2016, 1:56 PM
DC needs a independent study like Marvel Studios, Warner Bros is a is a pain in the ass
Scarilian
Scarilian - 11/2/2016, 2:04 PM
@Fanmar16 -

To be fair though, its not all Warner Bros messing things up. A lot of aspects of the movies are being done wrong and its definitely something larger that is the issue rather than just Warner Bros.
SisterSunday52
SisterSunday52 - 11/2/2016, 9:14 PM
@Scarilian - It's mostly Tsujihara trying to edit these movies to what he thinks audiences want to see. Batman v Superman was a film looking at how can a man who can do next to everything and, essentially has no need for hope, be a symbol for hope? It was about heroes finding hope after losing it in different ways. It was a much deeper film than most of what DC and Marvel had done up to that point. But Tsujihara was only concerned about how much Batman it had in it, so he edited it to make it all about Batman. He was concerned about losing face, so he didn't give Chris Terrio the time to fix a script completed by David "Superman needs to renounce his American citizenship" Goyer, of Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance infamy. While, at the same time, giving David Ayer only a month or two to provide a completed script for Suicide Squad. Then when his editing and rushed schedule didn't work for Batman v Superman, he assumed it was because it was too dark, and took David Ayer's movie away from him and took out all the darker and more in depth scenes, turning what could have been a fascinating, entertaining, and thought provoking film that truly explored bad vs evil into, what can only be called a "Big Dumb Action Movie" with barely any plot or story. Yes. Goyer was a bad writer, and Zack Snyder's visual storytelling method is something that often requires multiple viewings to appreciate. Not to mention hhis choice of casting for Lex Luthor left a lot to be desired. But they weren't the real problem. #FireTsujihara
ALF9001
ALF9001 - 11/2/2016, 10:01 PM
@AMrSundayGirl58 - That's what it's supposed to be about. Real sad that Snyder and co butchered the execution. Snyder is so shit, he made character choices based on push-ups contests, and no one, not even the biggest DC fanboy has been able to justify that.
#FireSnyder
ALF9001
ALF9001 - 11/3/2016, 5:50 AM
@AMrSundayGirl58 - Zack Snyder'/ visual storytelling?! Are you fricking kidding me? Zack anyder tells us nothing. Every scene in Batman v Superman is shot in the exact same way, and the "symbols" he uses are idiotic and too on the nose. Superman died? How about putting two fricking crosses next to him, that's subtle, right? Don't talk about things you don't comprehend; to study modern visual language I recommend you watch some Alfonso Cuaron (Children of Men), some Dennis Villanueve (Psicario, Enemy) and Nicolas Winding Refn (Drive). I hope that you at least will have the decency to answer.
Mankzin2
Mankzin2 - 11/2/2016, 2:03 PM
You can't say that DD is Netflix number one series, since they don't publish those numbers. Though I would think "Stranger Things" beat DD by a mile.

As for Quantity and Quality in the movies. Money wise DC first 3 movies have beaten out Marvels first 3 movies and as for quality that is individual opinion. Prime example is comparing the difference in box office of Suicide Squad and Guardians of the Galaxy, which only totals 28 million. One is consider a HIT and the other is considered a BOMB.

As for the comic books, you can't say that DC is losing to Marvel, when in your argument you state that DC has won the last three months. That is illogical.
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