SPIDER-MAN 4: Marvel And Sony Have Very Different Ideas About Who Should Direct; Miles Morales MCU Update

SPIDER-MAN 4: Marvel And Sony Have Very Different Ideas About Who Should Direct; Miles Morales MCU Update

New details have been revealed about Spider-Man 4, including the fact Marvel Studios and Sony have very different ideas about who should helm the movie. However, there is an exciting Miles Morales update!

By JoshWilding - Feb 20, 2024 07:02 AM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

We continue to hear troubling reports about Spider-Man 4, though they were arguably to be expected given how long it's been since we last saw the wall-crawler on the big screen (2021's Spider-Man: No Way Home feels like a very long time ago). 

The delays have allowed scoopers to start sharing rumours which many worry a lot of fans, including recent claims that Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures have conflicting visions for both the release date and creative direction.

We'd take everything with a pinch of salt for now, but Daniel Richtman is today reporting that Sony is keen to rush Spider-Man 4 into theaters no matter what (even if it means Kevin Feige can't be closely involved from a creative standpoint). Essentially, the studio is desperate for a hit. 

Sony boss Tom Rothman is eager for Jon Watts, the director of Spider-Man: Homecoming, Spider-Man: Far From Home, and Spider-Man: No Way Home, to return. He is, after all, a reliable hand who delivered three massive critical and commercial successes for them. 

Feige, meanwhile, wants someone else - Drew Goddard, presumably - and would like Watts to work on other MCU projects. The filmmaker very nearly helmed The Fantastic Four, so we wouldn't be shocked if he's being eyed for one or both of the next Avengers movies. 

Richtman adds that longtime Spider-Man franchise producer Amy Pascal hopes Feige will be involved with a future live-action Miles Morales movie, suggesting the partnership between Marvel Studios and Sony will continue once Tom Holland has bid farewell to Peter Parker. After Madame Web, that seems wise.

Recently, Pascal said a live-action Miles won't be seen on screen "until we make two more movies." She'd add, "Someday. Someday. We're very happy doing [the animated Spider-Verse movies]."

Spider-Verse producer and writer Chris Miller later took to X to clarify, "When she said 'not until we make two more movies,' she meant Beyond the Spider-Verse and the live-action Tom Holland film."

Last year, Holland shared his thoughts on potentially sharing the screen with Miles. "I would be honored to bring Miles Morales into the live action world," the actor enthused. "How we do that, I don't know, but given the opportunity, I would jump at it."

While there's currently a great deal of uncertainty surrounding Spider-Man's MCU future, a fourth solo outing is happening and the web-slinger is still expected to be a lead character in Avengers: The Kang Dynasty and Avengers: Secret Wars.

Stay tuned for updates as we have them.

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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 2/20/2024, 7:15 AM
As someone who liked Watt’s MCU Spidey trilogy , I really would rather they get someone new to direct the next one…

NWH closed a chapter in Peter’s life while also opening a new one so bringing in a new story teller (Drew Goddard presumably) to add their style & sensibilities to this version and continue the story forward would be fresh & nice imo!!.



Hopefully it’s street level though 😁
RedFury
RedFury - 2/20/2024, 7:44 AM
@TheVisionary25 - I'm thinking the same thing. Getting a new director would bring a new perspective, which would keep things fresh. Watts did a fine job, but I think three films under one director is more than enough. Seeing as this is a new chapter in Peter's life, it's very suitable for a new director to tell it.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 2/20/2024, 7:16 AM
Enough with Watts and his wack ass Spidey movies, man.
Matchesz
Matchesz - 2/20/2024, 11:36 AM
@Doomsday8888 - oh my gee golly mr stark
Origame
Origame - 2/20/2024, 7:19 AM
For those who need context, Goddard worked on several films such as cabin in the woods, world War z, and the Martian. He can be very talented, but he's also very hit and miss.

So really this comes down to the safe bet, watts, or the more risky Goddard.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/20/2024, 7:39 AM
@Origame - When did he miss?
Origame
Origame - 2/20/2024, 7:40 AM
@ObserverIO - ...world War z.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/20/2024, 7:50 AM
@Origame - Yeah, I'd agree with that. Many wouldn't, but I probably would.
Origame
Origame - 2/20/2024, 7:56 AM
@ObserverIO - I mean, it did terribly and was generally made fun of for poor writing and directing.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/20/2024, 10:08 AM
@Origame - true. Kinda gained a cult following since then. They're always asking for a sequel. It's probably gonna end up happening too.
ptick
ptick - 2/20/2024, 1:23 PM
@Origame - He worked on three of my favorite shows/movies ever - The Martian, Daredevil (Netflix), and The Good Place. I'll roll those dice.
Origame
Origame - 2/20/2024, 2:38 PM
@ptick - I wasn't really saying he was bad. Just there's an argument for either.
AliX
AliX - 2/20/2024, 4:15 PM
@Origame - I mean dude has more hits than missis IMO.
Origame
Origame - 2/20/2024, 4:23 PM
@AliX - yes, but in comparison to Jon watts, who's proven specifically with this franchise?
SpaceAgent
SpaceAgent - 2/21/2024, 4:31 AM
@ptick - He also wrote and directed "Bad Times at the El Royale". Which is a terrific movie and in my opinion credentials enough to helm something in the MCU.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/20/2024, 7:42 AM
If Marvel team up with Sony for two more Spider-Man movies, then he most that Sony will get from the IP will be around 4 billion.

So give them 4 billion in cash and exclusive video game contracts and call it a day.
JakeDaSnakkke
JakeDaSnakkke - 2/20/2024, 7:47 AM

MCU movie without Kevin Feige? No thank you.
Kevin Feige has been merged with the soul of Stan Lee.
JakeDaSnakkke
JakeDaSnakkke - 2/20/2024, 7:49 AM
Spider-Man 2099 live action please. Some time before 2099.
campblood
campblood - 2/20/2024, 7:58 AM
@JakeDaSnakkke - agreed , bladrunner style
Forthas
Forthas - 2/20/2024, 8:04 AM
I have said it before and I will say it again. Disney needs to offer to exchange some of its IPs for Spiderman. Disney picked up a bunch of IPs that do not fit their family friendly brand. In exchange for Spiderman I would offer, Aliens, Predator, the Fly, the Omen, Hellraiser, and the 28 Days later franchise plus some cash. As Madame Web showcased, Sony can make any film from these franchises on the cheap and make a profit off the horror community. This relationship with Marvel is not serving anyone.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 2/20/2024, 8:37 AM
@Forthas - yeah but none of those IP’s is as profitable as Spider-Man.
Forthas
Forthas - 2/20/2024, 8:45 AM
@slickrickdesigns - Not individually, but collectively....plus cash.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 2/20/2024, 8:05 AM
Why does Miles go by spiderman if he is going to exist in the same time and place as Peter? Are they seriously both going to be Spiderman?
marvel72
marvel72 - 2/20/2024, 8:43 AM
@Ryguy88 - Exactly,Miles should have a different name. Spider-Gwen isn't Spider-Woman. Ben Reily a clone of Peter Parker goes by the name Scarlet Spider.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 2/20/2024, 9:42 AM
@Ryguy88 - He's a Robin that couldn't become his own Nightwing.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 2/20/2024, 10:35 AM
@HashTagSwagg - more like if Robin was also named Batman
ptick
ptick - 2/20/2024, 1:26 PM
@Ryguy88 - 100% sure there would be a passing of the torch with Peter either dying or retiring.

(Though technically there are currently two Hawkeyes in the MCU.)

It's kind of funny that Miles is pretty much by far the most popular "legacy hero" and he's not going to hit live action until after Falcon Cap, Falcon 2, Kate Bishop, Stature, Yelena, etc.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 2/20/2024, 8:30 AM
Ryan Cooglar or the dude who’s in charge of the Spiderverse films.
marvel72
marvel72 - 2/20/2024, 9:41 AM
Keep Miles in the animated or VillainVerse.
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