SUPERMAN Easter Egg Leads To Speculation James Gunn Will Retcon Evil Jor-El Twist; First 10 Minutes Released

SUPERMAN Easter Egg Leads To Speculation James Gunn Will Retcon Evil Jor-El Twist; First 10 Minutes Released

A newly discovered Easter Egg from Superman's Digital release appears to suggest that filmmaker James Gunn has walked back on the controversial twist that saw Jor-El painted in a villainous light...

By JoshWilding - Aug 15, 2025 11:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman

Superman has been hailed as a movie that delivers a pitch-perfect take on the Man of Tomorrow, but there's one element that's proven to be particularly divisive. 

As we're sure you've already guessed, we're talking about the revelation that Jor-El and Lara Lor-Van sent their son, Kal-El, to Earth to conquer the planet and impregnate as many women as possible to ensure Krypton would live on. Think of it as a "super-harem." 

Filmmaker James Gunn has been resolute that the message decoded by Lex Luthor was real. However, with Superman now available on Digital, fans have spotted an Easter Egg suggesting he might have a retcon in mind. 

In a news report covering Maxwell Lord's remarks about Luthor, a banner can be seen at the bottom of the screen that reads, "Daily Planet Shows Luthor Was Behind The False Images Of Superman's Parents' Message Claiming That..."

It could be that Clark Kent or Lois Lane pretended it was fake to save Superman's reputation, but if so, that doesn't seem like very honest journalism. It's also something we find hard to imagine either character doing on the page.

Still, it allows Gunn to move on from the idea and not have it continue to plague the Kryptonian during future adventures.

Previously, he said that fans hoping it's not real are "sh*t out of luck," adding, "That’s the whole point of the movie, that Superman thinks he is doing something because it is his destiny and his Kryptonian parents have set him out to do this thing."

"Along the way he discovers through the love of the people who are actually his parents that he’s doing these things not because of someone else, but because of himself. It’s like taking accountability in the deepest way possible that his morality is not based on some figure outside of himself, but on his own choices. I think it’s really beautiful in that way, and I’m not gonna change that."

"And I don’t really even think of Jor-El and Lara as being totally evil," Gunn continued. "They just have this mindset that humans are less than what they are. We’re sea turtles to them. They’re just trying to keep the Kryptonian genes alive."

You can take a closer look at this Easter Egg/retcon from Superman in the X post below, along with the first 10 minutes of the film.

Superman, DC Studios' first feature film to hit the big screen, is set to soar into theaters worldwide this summer from Warner Bros. Pictures.

In his signature style, James Gunn takes on the original superhero in the newly imagined DC universe with a singular blend of epic action, humor and heart, delivering a Superman who’s driven by compassion and an inherent belief in the goodness of humankind.  

"Superman is an indescribable joy," we said in our review"A beautiful, moving thrill, David Corenswet is the perfect Man of Steel in a movie packed full of ideas. Fortunately, under James Gunn’s expert direction, all of those work, creating a rousing experience that flies higher than DC has in a very long time."

The movie stars David Corenswet in the dual role of Superman/Clark Kent, Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane and Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor.

Also appearing are Edi Gathegi, Anthony Carrigan, Nathan Fillion, Isabela Merced, Skyler Gisondo, Sara Sampaio, María Gabriela de Faría, Wendell Pierce, Alan Tudyk, Pruitt Taylor Vince, Neva Howell, and Milly Alcock.

Superman is now playing in theaters and available on Digital platforms.

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TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 8/15/2025, 11:39 AM
I don't mind the idea of Superman's parents not being presented as saints, but they never should've been presented as pure evil like this. I think doing what Reeves did with Bruce's parents would've worked better, where they were good people at their core who made mistakes and had things to hide.
Pictilli
Pictilli - 8/15/2025, 11:42 AM
@TheJok3r - they're not pure evil tho
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 8/15/2025, 11:50 AM
@Pictilli - We can argue semantics all we want, but they were presented as villains who wanted Superman and his bloodline to take over the earth.
dragon316
dragon316 - 8/15/2025, 12:28 PM
@TheJok3r - or there intentions made them look evil where they wanted there son to have kids to bloodline going not die out
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 8/15/2025, 1:42 PM
@dragon316 - Telling their son to impregnate as many women as he can so that they can rule over the planet is a little more than wanting him to have a happy family life.
epc1122
epc1122 - 8/15/2025, 5:01 PM
@Pictilli - on a side note, how many times did you end up seeing Superman in the theater?
Pictilli
Pictilli - 8/15/2025, 11:42 PM
@epc1122 - 6! And bought it on demand already
epc1122
epc1122 - 8/16/2025, 12:22 AM
@Pictilli - 7 for me and same. Thought deleted scenes would be included but it is what it is 🤷‍♂️. I loved the documentary 👍
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 8/15/2025, 11:40 AM
For a Superhero, greatness never comes with birth. One of the reasons why MOS failed.
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 8/15/2025, 11:47 AM
@SpiderParker - Tell that to the X-Men.

SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 8/15/2025, 11:49 AM
@Nomis929 - Then does Magneto know that?
soberchimera
soberchimera - 8/15/2025, 11:58 AM
@SpiderParker - This movie won’t even make what MoS made TWELVE YEARS AGO.
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 8/15/2025, 11:58 AM
@SpiderParker - Of course. A man "see and hear" what he want to.
CAPTAINPINKEYE
CAPTAINPINKEYE - 8/15/2025, 12:29 PM
@soberchimera - get over it dude
spr0cks
spr0cks - 8/15/2025, 12:41 PM
@SpiderParker -
I don't think you understood what Man of Steel's message in this regard was.

And relative to Superman 2025, it DIDN' fail.

Or conversely, if it "failed" (by whatever stupid metric you're using), then Superman 2025 absolutely BOMBED.
spr0cks
spr0cks - 8/15/2025, 12:44 PM
@SpiderParker -

RE :>>>"For a Superhero, greatness never comes with birth. One of the reasons why MOS failed"

It's pretty clear from this comment that you COMPLETELY misunderstood what Man of Steel's message in this regard was in the movie.
As in, Jor-El(the non-genocidal Space-Nazi one) even laid it out in pretty clear terms, and somehow you completely missed it.

And I don't know what metric you're using to come to the idea that Man of Steel "failed", but if it did, the relative to it, Superman 2025 absolutely BOMBED.

It certainly flopped.
There's not debate about that fact.
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 8/15/2025, 12:57 PM
@soberchimera - And MOS barely made a tad more than what a original IP like Gone with the Winds made 86 years ago, your point being?
Highflyer
Highflyer - 8/16/2025, 5:20 AM
@SpiderParker - Hasn't MOS all about having free will to pave your own way? About having dreams and inspirations other than what society had intended? Clark wasn't born full blown Superman.
MatteMan
MatteMan - 8/16/2025, 7:11 PM
@soberchimera - Just because it made more money doesn't mean it's a better movie. Christopher Nolan helped to write the story and just because of that, people were convinced that Christian Bale will appear as Batman, but after the movie was released people weren't very happy. That's why MOS 2 turned into BvS, just to please fans.The only thing's that was good in this movie was Hanry Cavill (design only) and Hans Zimmer score.
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 8/20/2025, 2:30 AM
@spr0cks - It totally failed to be a critical or commercial success. It had more marketing costs than Gunn's movie so MOS would end up with lower profit than Superman in the end. All while it the other one was during the peak and this one was during the slump. Pretty obvious which one audience preferred if you just look at domestic gross outpacing MOS in every way.

But if you still wanna argue, well, China alone gave MOS $63million. Which is pretty much the difference between both movies even though MOS had a much longer time in theater.
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 8/20/2025, 2:37 AM
@Highflyer - The movie was about adhering to the path set out by Jor-El. It wasn't free will or morals that guided him. He didn't choose to be Superman or did it for wanting to save people his entire life. The movie is nonsensical behind his motivations. He saved people a few times even though he was taught not to do it. First of all, it doesn't happen like that in real life or fiction, his rebellious phase makes no sense considering he never had a basis for his different thinking. To be the role model, you have to have a role model. He didn't.

It was more like -
"I don't know what to do, someone guide me as the guidance I have received until now were subpar and conflicting even though any other child would have been groomed by them, I didn't for plot convenience. If anyone tells me differently to my earth father, I would listen to it without any question as deep down I hate my father which was so apparent to him that he went on to sacrifice himself but the hate had a convoluted basis so we can pretend it didn't exist. Oh, tell me my real father, what shall I do?"
Highflyer
Highflyer - 8/21/2025, 3:16 PM
@SpiderParker - Wait, where did you get this "to be the role model, you have to have one"?
Also, not to fall too hard into whataboutism, but how did you feel about Donner's Superman?
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 8/21/2025, 6:44 PM
@Highflyer - It's common sense. Nature can only take you so far, as without nurture, you are practically walking with one leg. Would a great actor or musician be one if they had not been introduced to acting or music? It's the environment that shapes them in the end. It doesn't matter if they had the talent all along. Just check Red Son if you want further evidence.

And I am fond of Donner's Superman, so before you go about its issues, I have heard them before. On a scale, the overall will still favor Donner by a long shot rather than Snyder. In the end, these are adaptations, so some liberties are taken no matter how "comic accurate" they might be. What matters is the balance of good and bad choices, and that's how you judge a good adaptation. And MOS is a very bad adaptation, as it's not true to the character at all. TDK, for example, is a great movie, but Batman Begins is a better adaptation, while TDKR fails at both.

Honestly, MOS is pretentious, unfaithful, and janky, relying heavily on the strength of actors, visuals, music, and edgy dialogue, while the core, the characters and story, is left in the trash can. Honestly, God knows how some of you like the visuals. It's a freaking shaky camera on a popular superhero movie, ripped off straight from Chronicle.
Highflyer
Highflyer - 8/21/2025, 8:28 PM
@SpiderParker - You're comparing intrest in music or acting with having empathy and wanting to do the right thing?
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 8/23/2025, 3:21 AM
@Highflyer - I compared nature and nurture, it's not that hard to tell as I specifically talked about it. Sometimes pay attention to the words and not just look forward to explosions.
Highflyer
Highflyer - 8/23/2025, 5:47 AM
@SpiderParker - I'm aware and you used music and acting to drive home your point. Condescension aside, do you think empathy is something that needs to be taught or be observed? On top of that, people make the assumption Clark was taught not to help people from birth when it was his powers that they were telling him to keep secret. Based on Clark's question (he was 13 at the time) about "what was I supposed to do? Just let them die?" indicates that he's already been taught morals and this big public save was the first. I don't think that's enough to make him have no intrest in the safety of others.
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 8/23/2025, 8:14 AM
@Highflyer - Well, you started it when you said I was comparing empathy and music, when it was quite clear what my point was. But yes, I do think empathy needs to be DEVELOPED. Most people have empathy but like any talent, if its not developed, it doesn't grow or be of any use. Contrary to what you might believe even the genius and prodigies have to develop their talent. Skills stagnant when left alone and human behavior is just like that.

If you weren't taught that killing a life is bad and bad things are frowned upon, I'm sure you wouldn't think twice about it. Just like how people in the early times didn't care. You would counter me that its not something you were taught but you knew innately, but I'm gonna have to disagree as even if something is not taught in words is automatically learned when you see others and their behavior. For example, do you think twice about killing a mosquito? An ant? Or when you eat chicken, beef, etc? You weren't taught this but some people are taught this and they consider it as a sin as they are also life. But would you kill and eat a dog?

As you can see, empathy is developed and you can't be a role model if you don't have one. For someone it might be their Dad, RDJ, Elon Musk, Drake or a fictional character like Superman. And for Superman, his role models have always been his earth parents. People who only see themselves as the best person they know are narcissist and ego-maniacal, most likely lacking empathy, underdeveloped or straight up evil.

And that scene is a great lesson that he looked for guidance but didn't receive it and was even told that maybe he should have let them die. In real life, kids will take heart of that. I hope whenever you have kids, you don't think that such a answer would toughen them up or that its their responsibility to figure it out. You would be a terrible parent just like Jonathan Kent in MOS.

PS: It's spelled "interest" not intrest, I ignored it the first time but it becomes tough to ignore it again.
SteviesRightFoo
SteviesRightFoo - 8/15/2025, 11:45 AM
Why do it in the first place? Beyond retarded
newhire13
newhire13 - 8/15/2025, 4:57 PM
@SteviesRightFoo - Probably just a mistake that nobody caught because Gunn has been been very adamant that the message is real and not something that’s going to be changed.
ClungeOfSteel
ClungeOfSteel - 8/15/2025, 11:45 AM
😅 gunn can't even stick to his own story 👀
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 8/15/2025, 11:45 AM
Superman has been hailed as a movie that delivers a pitch-perfect take on the Man of Tomorrow...

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WEAPONXOXOXO
WEAPONXOXOXO - 8/15/2025, 11:50 AM
Some of you need to take a day off from Gunn articles. Go outside. Get some fresh air.

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DREAMER
DREAMER - 8/15/2025, 12:30 PM
@WEAPONXOXOXO - Or maybe Gunn needs to stop answering every single question from his fans or addresing subjects regarding his movie
WEAPONXOXOXO
WEAPONXOXOXO - 8/15/2025, 12:35 PM
@DREAMER - Or don't click on a Gunn article. You're bothered by anything Gunn related. If he cured cancer you'd have a problem with him.
MaxPaint
MaxPaint - 8/15/2025, 1:09 PM
@WEAPONXOXOXO - Or just 2 both because writing a comment on a website doesn't take more than a minute. Or maybe to some of you it does.
newhire13
newhire13 - 8/15/2025, 4:59 PM
@DREAMER - OR! He can do whatever the hell he wants in regards with his movie and you can just keep it moving if you don’t like it. It’s ridiculous that you’re acting like you’re being forced to read these posts and articles lol
TheNewYorkerr
TheNewYorkerr - 8/15/2025, 11:50 AM
So stupid. Lex could’ve just as easily hired actors to record a couple second clip speaking gibberish, and the city would’ve turned on him instantaneously LOL I hope Gunn doesn’t write or direct any more of these
Pictilli
Pictilli - 8/15/2025, 12:06 PM
@TheNewYorkerr - 3 different characters confirm it is real:

- Mr Terrific
- Rick Flagg
- Lex Luthor admits it isn't a fake to Ghurkos
newhire13
newhire13 - 8/15/2025, 5:03 PM
@TheNewYorkerr - People believe random shit they see and read all the time. A lot of times with LESS evidence. In this case it’s established multiple times when people questioned the authenticity that it was found to be legit.
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 8/15/2025, 11:50 AM
"And I don’t really even think of Jor-El and Lara as being totally evil," Gunn continued. "They just have this mindset that humans are less than what they are. We’re sea turtles to them. They’re just trying to keep the Kryptonian genes alive." ...... isn't that the exact same reasoning the nazis. Gunn says nazis are evil!!!! lol
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