What I want to see in The Man Of Steel!

What I want to see in The Man Of Steel!

Over 30 years after the groundbreaking Christopher Reeve-starred Superman, the franchise is getting the ever-so-common reboot. Here's what I think would improve Supes' place among big screen super heroes.

Editorial Opinion
By PaulRom - Mar 08, 2011 09:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman

1. The plot (should there be an origin story?)

I'm pretty sure most people know about Superman's origins, so why repeat it step-for-step? I can see it beginning with the Kents driving at night, when suddenly a meteor-type object crashes into their yard, and then adopting little Kal-El. With possibly a flashback or two of Krypton's destruction. The original Superman dug deep into the origins, probably too deep. We don't need it retold to us when we know it as clear as day.

2. The villains

The original Superman movies were so dry on villains it isn't funny. A message to Warner Bros.: Lex Luthor and General Zod aren't the only villains that Superman has fought. What I would love to see in a potential trilogy for a villain lineup with Brainiac in the first, Darkseid in the second, and Doomsday in the third (with Lex being a sort of behind-the-scenes villain until possibly the third movie).

3. The costume design

First off, loose the trunks. It looks....weird, IMO. And also, give a slight color alteration...maybe take the original design (minus the trunks of course) and make it ever-so-slightly darker?

4. The tone

Warner Bros. has said that Man Of Steel will be as contemporary/real world based as possible, and I honestly don't think that would be successful. Superman is an alien for crying out loud. He can fly, shoot laser beams, freeze breath, etc. That stuff can't happen in real world films, let alone real life. Darker tone is fine IMO, but make it seem like it can fit in our own world? Not possible.

5. The action

Superman has so much potential with his powers that haven't been revealed yet. Just watch a certain episode of Justice League as he beats the crap out of Darkseid. If they relive that scene in the new franchise, I would be thrilled.

6. The actors/developers

I'm honestly beyond thrilled that Chris Nolan put his priceless creative idea(s) into this project. Even though he seems to be stepping out of it now, we'll probably see fruit of his efforts. So far, the actor choices seem good, and Synder looks like a good director (I've only seen some of 300...but what I saw was good). And David S Goyer and Jon Nolan are both involved...enough said.


I can probably think of more later, but this is what I have for now. Any other ideas can be posted below in the usual place. Peace out!

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spider1489
spider1489 - 3/8/2011, 9:35 AM
i agree completed, but nope, 1st brainiac, the doomsday, leading up to darkside in the final one,(doomsday can be a test frm darkside)
AlexdoxA
AlexdoxA - 3/8/2011, 9:41 AM
The early eighties were a relatively calm period of time (even the cold war was a calm war)so the first Supermovies were more than awesome... but they were meant to be more artsy and romantic with high moral values... now we need a movie that reflects what we are going through in this period of time and he has to become the hero we need and not the hero they needed back then.
Exiles
Exiles - 3/8/2011, 9:47 AM
jon nolans not involved at all, goyers the only writer and I want to see superman actually punching some [frick]ing villains and your misinterpreting the whole contemporary/real world based as "POSSIBLE". there not going to depower him at all, they have to make him relevant to the current time, this can't exactly have the feel of donners movie like superman returns did. and about supermans origin being the same thing over and over again go and read birthright.
jbak368
jbak368 - 3/8/2011, 10:02 AM
What Exiles said - it's about realistically depicting a world like ours in which Superman now exists, not about making Superman fit into what could exist in the real world.
jbak368
jbak368 - 3/8/2011, 10:05 AM
Also, the fact that we have both Kents cast doesn't necessarily mean we're getting an in-depth origin story (not that anyone said it did), though I do think it should be addressed briefly. Superman regularly interacts with his adopted parents in Smallville, especially seeking advice. It's not too hard to find time to visit the folks when you can move at the speed of light.
spider1489
spider1489 - 3/8/2011, 10:28 AM
i just want to see superman have a real challenge! get into a real fight!!!!! use his real strength! sorry but [frick] the orgin i just want to see a good movie! take the TIH for example, when the reboot, the put orgins in the begining, maybe a few flashbacks and moved fwd with the story, instead of holding it back with the whole origin crap again.
PaulRom
PaulRom - 3/8/2011, 11:21 AM
@Exiles I thought he helped in the story or something? I must be off quite a bit. And that makes sense about being relevant to the current timeline, but I didn't think he'd be depowered...it just isn't possible to be as realistic as say, Batman Begins/The Dark Knight.
@spider1489 completely agree, he needs a serious challenge other than Luthor.
DCwanabe
DCwanabe - 3/8/2011, 11:47 AM
Hey guys, I totally agree with this article. We need a new superman a familiar but more effective story. Check out my fan fiction its lenghty but worth reading. It has these elements you guys are looking for new suit more action better villains with a much deeper plot. Check it out.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/manofsteelstuff/news/?a=31259
luckylu
luckylu - 3/8/2011, 12:48 PM
loose the trunks loose superman. i mean seriously can we not get it through our heads that you dont mess with his costume. the most iconic of all. i like your villains tone and action though. good ideas overall
LP4
LP4 - 3/8/2011, 2:21 PM
@AlexdoxA- "but they were meant to be more artsy and romantic with high moral values... now we need a movie that reflects what we are going through in this period of time"

THANK YOU!!! You summed it up EXACTLY and perfectly! Each generation's Superman reflects that generation's problems and strifes. So this new Superman MUST be tougher and more modern-minded- no more of the "gee wilikers!" and "golly" stuff. That is 80's stuff. Give us a Superman for the 2000's era for once dammit. "Superman Returns" tried so hard to recapture the 80's crap it failed to connect with fanboys of THIS generation. Let's hope Snyder succeeds and leaves Donner-stuff out of this film.
Knightstalker
Knightstalker - 3/8/2011, 2:55 PM
Ok, fine. Go ahead and lose the trunks, take the cape away while you're at it. You might as well just go to the CW and borrow that stupid red jacket from "The Blur". Seriously, folks......LEAVE THE SUIT ALONE!!!

@LP4, exactly right. If I see a bumbling, stumbling, and doofus like Clark Kent that puts on a ridiculously "revamped" costume to be Superman, I swear I will throw my popcorn and soda at the screen and storm out the theater cursing obscenities that would make a sailor blush. I'll do the same if I see Lex Luthor in this movie trying to pull off some outlandish real estate scam.
oldphilthy
oldphilthy - 3/8/2011, 3:12 PM
Who is this fool.

If you want people to relate to a new version/actor of superman you need to build the story from the ground up so people know exactly what makes the charachter tick and to beolive it.
yes the origin has been done before over 30 years ago when half the fans wernt even born.

Dont get me wrong I grew up with Christopher Reeve and am very critical of new superman takes and didnt like superman reurns because I couldnt belive it was the same character from the reeve movies.
It has to be re-invented from the start to be believed.
oldphilthy
oldphilthy - 3/8/2011, 3:24 PM
Who is this fool.

If you want people to relate to a new version/actor of superman you need to build the story from the ground up so people know exactly what makes the charachter tick and to beolive it.
yes the origin has been done before over 30 years ago when half the fans wernt even born.

Dont get me wrong I grew up with Christopher Reeve and am very critical of new superman takes and didnt like superman reurns because I couldnt belive it was the same character from the reeve movies.
It has to be re-invented from the start to be believed.
LordHuck
LordHuck - 3/8/2011, 4:38 PM

Is everyone who loves the Trunks on superman a Big Fan of other ridiculous looks like 616 Hawkeye and the effing riddler?

Purple Pirate cuff boots and a Green blazer with question marks all over it. Both characters look like they walked out of a Brazilian carnival. BUT at least they both remembered to put their Fruit of the looms under their pants
darkvenian
darkvenian - 3/8/2011, 6:36 PM
District 9 was more real.... then ... i belive That ... maybe superman can happen in real world films... what you think?¿?¿
NotThatGuy
NotThatGuy - 3/8/2011, 6:51 PM
I just one thing from this repoop -David Hasselhoff!!!
Knightstalker
Knightstalker - 3/8/2011, 7:50 PM
Get over yourself Huck, Not everybody wants to change Superman into whatever vision you personally have.
LordHuck
LordHuck - 3/8/2011, 8:50 PM
See knightstalker this is exactly where you are wrong. Everyone wants to change Superman into their own personal vision.
steelrocks
steelrocks - 3/8/2011, 10:35 PM


No more ridiculous red underwear. There are ways to keep that area somewhat red, that resemble the initial, so loved, iconic costume, but without looking like a freaking underwear!!!

People today would totally frown upon a dude with red underwear outside tights. seriously! you gotta agree with that


Im totally up for changing parts of the suit
steelrocks
steelrocks - 3/8/2011, 10:37 PM


I agree with a complete detachment from the Donner/reeve era. I dont want a huge change in the costume, but some of it, would be so welcomed!!!
oldphilthy
oldphilthy - 3/9/2011, 2:43 AM

NO NO NO. The suit is to iconic to change to much.
people saying trunks wouldn't be beilievable!!!!
HELLO he is an alien from a made up planet.

My best interpratation that I have seen is this manip as my avatar
Basically The reeve costume with smaller briefs. Darker blue. keep the bright red. And dull the yellow to a gold then same sheild.
Maybe just modify the material to a better quality.
steelrocks
steelrocks - 3/9/2011, 4:00 AM


CGI suit reboot!!!

NO RED UNDERWEAR CAMPAIGN!
LordHuck
LordHuck - 3/9/2011, 4:39 AM
@Oldphilly

Yeah he is an alien from a made up planet..

Who looks exactly like a Human

Grew up in Smallville Kansas USA

In any given story unless otherwise stated Superman is 33 years old.

The only element superman’s costume shares in common with Kryptonian attire is the S Shield which was his family crest.

No self respecting American male in his 20,s 30’s 40’s would design that thing, nor would his mother.

Do you really see any newsman coming up with Red underpants?

Tom Brokaw?
Anderson Cooper?


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oldphilthy
oldphilthy - 3/9/2011, 5:11 AM
If you get rid of underpants for the reason that there not fashionable
Or believable or no one would wear it in the real world.
Yo might as well get rid of the cape and boots and any of the original
Colours.
Could you believe a superman in either a all blue suit with no cape
Or anything or just normal clothes.?
LordHuck
LordHuck - 3/9/2011, 5:27 AM
@ oldPhilthy
Naw I can see him wearing tight colorful clothes in the movie…I mean Some people do in real life..

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But I could see him wearing something like this for the 1st half of the movie, before he dons the full fledged outfit.

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It just depends if they are gonna do the origin again or not.. But if he is already several years into being superman then yeah Suit from the get go.
TMNTDude
TMNTDude - 3/9/2011, 7:26 AM
Everybody loves to hate when there is talk of an origin story involved. Origin stories I feel are less about recapping a characters beginning, but setting a tone for a series of films. It builds the character from the ground up. If you are rebooting the series, you have to relate the character back to his/her origins. It’s a must! Now, I agree it would be dumb to tell the same story step by step, but Superman is a flipping alien. A writer could have fun with an origin story that included his real parents.

Also, you have to have Superman placed in the “real world.” If it’s not in a real world setting with a serious tone you will get a campy Superman movie.
TMNTDude
TMNTDude - 3/9/2011, 7:35 AM
Everybody loves to hate when there is talk of an origin story involved. Origin stories I feel are less about recapping a characters beginning, but setting a tone for a series of films. It builds the character from the ground up. If you are rebooting the series, you have to relate the character back to his/her origins. It’s a must! Now, I agree it would be dumb to tell the same story step by step, but Superman is a flipping alien. A writer could have fun with an origin story that included his real parents.

Also, you have to have Superman placed in the “real world.” If it’s not in a real world setting with a serious tone you will get a campy Superman movie.
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 3/9/2011, 7:44 AM
I respect your opinions, but I disagree with a lot that's presented here. I think the origin is necessary to tell to restart the franchise. I make my case for the origin here (click the picture).


A lot of people seem to want to skip the origin because they don't think it will have good enough action. Here's my take on the action for the movie. (click the picture)
Knightstalker
Knightstalker - 3/9/2011, 8:03 AM
Thanks oldphilthy, glad to see somebody out there has some sense. Once again, they might as well just go borrow that red jacket from "the Blur" rather than go with the Superman that we all know and love.

@LordHuck...no, my friend, I'm not wrong. I've seen this too many times before, and you missed my point. I'll bet good money that assuming they change the suit, even into something that looks like one of your dreadful images, you will be the first on to start screaming that "It doesn't look like Superman" because it didn't tranlsate from the page to the screen the way you thought it would.

Again, leave the suit alone. Minor tweaks are one thing and even they can go horribly wrong (SR anyone?) but a complete overhaul of the suit would be a huge mistake.
TheLight
TheLight - 3/9/2011, 9:57 AM
LEAVE THE LEGENDARY SUIT ALONE. NUFF SAID.
AZSuperman
AZSuperman - 3/9/2011, 12:02 PM
i like what you had to say with the exception of the trunks! Are you serious?!?! What's wrong with you? Are you on drugs? That's like taking the symbol from batman or taking the green from green lantern, or taking the trunks from superman!

Your audacity thinking you could modify the legendary blue, red, and yellow is incredible.

The suit is incredible in it's original.
oldphilthy
oldphilthy - 3/9/2011, 12:45 PM
I think most of us agree. leave the suit alone just a subtle update on the colour shades maybe and material.

As Snyder had CAVILL screen test in a reeve suit replica I think we are to be quite happy with the eventual suit they use. they obviousley want the original look aswell.

Superman is in good hands people.
LordHuck
LordHuck - 3/9/2011, 5:34 PM
@ AZSuperman NO its like taking the Trunks away from Batman and the white gloves away from Green Lantern.
Both of which they did.

Lots of Superman costume designs without trunks look amazing.

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darkvenian
darkvenian - 3/9/2011, 6:31 PM
no UNDERWEAR in the suit.. but maybe gloves.... i don´t now
drellik
drellik - 3/9/2011, 8:16 PM
I am all about the original suit. Keep the trunks!

[email protected] really like that last image. Badass.

Regarding the article, I disagree with most of it. Way off. Reboot needs a quick retelling of the origin. Modern day Superman can be created...Superman has always reflected the current generation since his inception. Costume darker?...like SR darker? And there are many other enemies to choose from. I would love to see Darkseid and some serious ass-kicking, but we also need a mental, emotional, or moral challenge for Superman.
steelrocks
steelrocks - 3/9/2011, 10:03 PM

@LordHuck

you are totally right, basically all those suits look absolutely awesome. They can totally do it without the ridiculous trunks/underwear.

There's nothing really making it that completes the rest of the suit, it's just something we are used to. Like the white gloves on GL for example. BIG DEAL!
steelrocks
steelrocks - 3/9/2011, 10:04 PM
@drellik I agree with you on lordhuck's images, the last one is pretty much goddamn epic.

Snyder, copy?
steelrocks
steelrocks - 3/9/2011, 10:09 PM
@oldphilthy I dont think most of us agree. A specific pool on the trunks would decide that.

Im banking most of us actually would vote to get rid of the [frick]ing ridiculous red underwear
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