DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Set Photos May Reveal Surprising Timeline Of The Disney+ Show

DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Set Photos May Reveal Surprising Timeline Of The Disney+ Show

Some more photos from the set of Daredevil: Born Again have been shared online, and while they don't appear to reveal much at first glance, they may give us an idea of when the Disney+ revival takes place.

By MarkCassidy - Mar 22, 2023 12:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil

Filming continues on Daredevil: Born Again in New York City, and some more set photos have been shared online.

These latest snaps give us another look at Charlie Cox's Matt Murdock (he's updated his wardrobe since the Netflix days, at least) as he walks the streets. There's nothing particular revealing about these shots at first glance, but if you look closely at the church bulletin in the first image, the date reads March 15, 2020.

We assumed Born Again would be set after the events of She-Hulk: Attorney at Law (where we last saw the Man Without Fear), but this would seem to indicate that the show will at least partially take place during The Blip.

This could explain Foggy and Karen's absence (provided it's even addressed), but we can't see the entire series playing out in this timeline. Maybe this is a flashback, or the 18 episodes will be split between past and present day?

Check out the photos below, and let us know what you think.

Vincent D'Onofrio (Wilson Fisk) and Jon Bernthal (Frank Castle) are also set to reprise their respective roles from the now defunct Netflix shows. New cast members include Michael Gandolfini, Nikki M. James, and Sandrine Holt.

Most of the new characters remain under wraps, but we recently learned that Holt will play The Kingpin's wife, Vanessa Fisk.

The show will be loosely based on the '80s Marvel Comics series of the same name by Frank Miller and David Mazzuchelli, but is not expected to be an overly faithful adaptation. Despite some significant changes to the story, "Daredevil versus Wilson Fisk, aka the Kingpin, remains the focal point."

Matt Corman and Chris Ord are on board as writers and executive producers. No premiere date has been announced, but the show is expected to bow in the spring of 2024.

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JonC
JonC - 3/22/2023, 12:19 PM
F.I.R.S.T.
i think this opens up some interesting storytelling... we all want to know what else happened during the blip as chaos ensued due to people disappearing mid-anything.
Fogs
Fogs - 3/22/2023, 12:59 PM
@JonC - Yeah, I was thinking about that. FaTWS, as flawed of a show that one was, was what brought the most interesting blip fallout situations.
RolandD
RolandD - 3/22/2023, 1:04 PM
@JonC - Ya know stating that you are first in a comment thread on this site went out of fashion close to a decade ago, maybe a little more recent than that.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 3/22/2023, 1:39 PM
@RolandD - Remember when they used to have CBM "hall of shame" (or something like that) and they had a list of things that would land you in the "hall of shame, like trolling, being annoying, or offensive. And saying "First" was one of those things?
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 3/22/2023, 2:24 PM
@CorndogBurglar - @RolandD I hope we bring back first 😆 something so lame and innocent about it that I love
SpiderBrad
SpiderBrad - 3/22/2023, 2:26 PM
@RolandD - We're bringing it back!
RolandD
RolandD - 3/22/2023, 2:31 PM
@SpiderBrad @CorndogBurglar @MyCoolYoung @JonC - I do remember that and also agree with the sentiment of bringing it back. I withdraw my critical comments above. We could use some more innocent fun on this site, especially considering how toxic the comments can get.Jon C, lead the charge!
Batmangina
Batmangina - 3/22/2023, 4:08 PM
@JonC - May I be the FIRST to congratulate you on being first.

See what I did there?
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/22/2023, 12:19 PM
I actually wouldn't mind it taking place during the Blip. Could be a lot of interesting legal cases going on this should could dive into
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 3/22/2023, 1:04 PM
@bkmeijer1 - It would make the most sense with Fisk's rise to power. With so many banks collapsing and companies tanking, Fisk swallowing up key companies and people for his crime would make sense. Hell a Ronin cameo would work here too. It would explain how Hawkeye found out about Kingpin in the first place.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 3/22/2023, 1:19 PM
@SonOfAGif - I mean Hawkeye could just know about Kingpin since he was all over the news multiple times before his defeat in Season 3.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/22/2023, 3:27 PM
@HOTSHOT - that's assuming season 3 is MCU-canon
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/22/2023, 3:27 PM
@SonOfAGif - that would be pretty cool to see. Although I doubt we'll Ronin (or Hawkeye) anytime soon though
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 3/22/2023, 3:50 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Which officially speaking it is until they firmly establish otherwise.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/22/2023, 4:04 PM
@HOTSHOT - true. Guess we'll have to wait and see
StSteven
StSteven - 3/22/2023, 7:30 PM
@SonOfAGif - Yeah I was thinking the same thing. We saw a rumor recently that "DD:BA" was going to retell KP's origin, which in this universe could very well have happened during the Blip, as you described. If I remember correctly, the Netflix show never really delved into his rise to power, just his childhood and then BAM! he's a super villain. So if they make this new DD show as much about KP as it is about DD, we could see some very compelling story there about KP, which would go along way toward differentiating it from the Netflix show without directly contradicting it. Just filling in the blanks really.

And, yeah, I totally agree that we haven't seen a whole lot of what happened during the Blip so far, so there is plenty of potential storytelling there.
StSteven
StSteven - 3/22/2023, 7:33 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Well, we COULD see Ronin, just not Renner. But that's not hard to do and would tie the two shows (with a cameo/flashback in "Echo") together nicely, helping to return us to that whole "#It's all connected" time of the MCU. Remember that? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/23/2023, 4:58 AM
@StSteven - could indeed always see a stunt double show. Think it's more likely to just see Echo or Kate show up though. Makes it connected too
StSteven
StSteven - 3/23/2023, 9:19 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Sure. Any one of those would be fine for me. Seems like based on recent news, however, that "DD:BA" taking place during the Blip may not be the case. Doesn't mean that parts of it won't take place there, and I still think that if they are really going to revisit/explore KP's backstory, part of it would likely take place during the Blip. Otherwise I don't see how they would explain all the DD+KP+Ronin+Hand+Echo stuff that had to have been going on in NYC for the last 5 years or so. Hopefully this show, with it's MASSIVE 18 episode count, will go a long way in explaining all that. Fingers crossed.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/24/2023, 4:25 AM
@StSteven - yeah, some stuff definitely happened during the blip. Would be a missed opportunity not to revisit that
StSteven
StSteven - 3/24/2023, 5:25 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Definitely. I mean, they have 5 years of virtually unexplored stories that they could dive into (unless every character in “DD:BA” happened to have been dusted, which would actually be pretty funny. Like they show each character getting dusted one by one and then it says “5 years later” and we see them all coming back exactly where they were and that’s the end of the backstory. Except now like someone else is living in their apartments and all their stuff is gone. Some homeless dudes are running around in Matt’s apartment wearing his DD costumes and play-fighting and some other ones are living in Fisk’s basement place wearing his (obviously oversized) suits and eating off of his expensive artwork. And both Matt and Fisk are like “Oh, man!” simultaneously and then the music from “Seinfeld” plays.

Or not. On second thought that’s a terrible idea. Christ I need to start drinking to get my head straight. I’ll check back in 5 or 6 beers from now.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/24/2023, 6:03 PM
@StSteven - I think it would be somewhat interesting if everybody got dusted, and the show takes place in those 5 years.

Doesn't even have to be Daredevil. Just any show. End the first episode with all the side characters getting dusted, and begin the final episode with everybody reappearing.
StSteven
StSteven - 3/24/2023, 8:14 PM
@bkmeijer1 - So, it's a show about... nothing? I don't know. That sounds pretty risky. Chances of success are pretty slim. I mean who would make a show like that? Who are these people?.

What if Matt and Fisk were tied up in their won legal battles trying to get their apartments and property back from the squatter so long that due to half of the population suddenly coming back and looking for housing, by the time Matt and Fisk give up their previous dwellings there's only one apartment available in NYC and they have to be roommates.

At night time they fight each other but during the day they're forced to get along so they call a daytime truce. Naturally Fisk is the neat(control) freak and Matt keeps making messes because he's blind and he's constantly knocking over things, which drives Fisk crazy. And they're constantly having to deal with problems with the apartment because it's a real shithole (which is why it was the last one available), like a leaking ceiling, clogged up pipes, furnace doesn't work, etc. And of course the mouse infestation which makes a nest in Fisk's ascot drawer. And naturally the feral cat infestation which are attracted to the the mouse infestation. And Matt tries to help but he just makes things worse, which just makes Fisk more and more pissed off, so that at night when he's committing his violent crimes he's really just blowing off steam, like "And THEN that son of a bitch clogged up the toilet again! (slams a guy's head in a car door) But then he says "Sorry I can't clean it up cause I'm blind" (slams a guy's head in the door again) Bullshit!(slam) I don't care if you can't see! You can SMELL the shit, can't you ?!? (slam) And I know you have that f**king "Bat-sense" or "Matt Tingle" or whatever the hell you call it because I've seen you pick up your underwear with your toes and throw it up in the air a catch it. Faker!!!! (slam slam slam) Yeah, you got that "Echo location" or whatever the hell it's called (GOD I hate that bitch! (slam slam) just like that f**ker in that God-awful "Morbius" movie you made me sit through the other night!. And you knew it was bad, you KNEW it was bad because I kept hearing you snickering (slam). You're not the only one with good hearing you motherf**ker! (slam) F**K YOU MURDOCK!!!!! (slam slam slam slam slam) (head goes flying off into the distance).

Comedy gold right there! K, clearly I need more alcohol...
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/25/2023, 5:32 AM
@StSteven - it's not a show about nothing, as the protagonist survives and has to deal with everything. Kimda like what you're suggesting, only less like Friends.
StSteven
StSteven - 3/28/2023, 8:53 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Well, in case it wasn't obvious my "show about nothing" was a reference to "Seinfeld". And don't you dare, don't you DARE use the "F" word around me! Listen, my wife is a HUGE "F-f-f-" well, you know, fan and I've had to sit sit through every frickin episode like a dozen or more times to the point that I can recite scenes word for word. That's burned in my brain forever, but my therapist said that in time I'll learn how to rejoin casual conversations about "F-f-f-f" without having an "episode". And BTW, one of my favorite quotes from Bill Gates was when he was doing a commencement speech for some university in the mid-90s or so and was discussing what it was going to be like out in the "real world" for these graduating students and he specifically said something along the lines of "In the real world you have to go to a real job in the morning and can't just sit around in a coffee house until 11am". Welp, I guess he wasn't the visionary at that time that he thought he was because look at us now. Anyhow, as I was saying, that was NOT a reference to... that other show.

So following your premise then (I was originally assuming that EVERYONE was dusted), are you suggesting that everyone except Matt got dusted and he's just by himself not knowing what to do? Cause that could be funny as well. Like, he is in his office and then the Blip happens and he goes over to Foggy's office and is like "Foggy have looked through the briefs for the Fisk case...?" and then steps in a pile of dust which kicks up a cloud that Matt smells as Foggy's cologne. He's like "WTF?" And goes over to Karen's office and is like "Karen have you seen Foggy?" and the same thing happens with her perfume and he's like OMG! He goes outside and no one's around. He goes out to fight the bad guys at night and there's like nothing happening (maybe a purse-snatcher or two). He eventually goes to Fisk's place and that's full of dust piles (especially a HUGE Fisk pile).

Fast forward and we see Matt amusing himself with like one-player games (like a paddle-ball) and setting up dummies to look like Foggy and Karen in the office and one like Electra at his apartment that he talks to. Maybe he sets up one of those wacky inflatable flailing arms guys at Fisk's place wearing his suits of him to fight. And a dummy on his roof like Frank. Like he's kinda loosing it being all alone for 5 years. And then he's SO happy whenever everyone comes back, but has A LOT of explaining to do, especially about the Electra sex doll...

Obviously I'm joking here, but only half joking because if take out the more (obviously) ridiculous elements of the above storyline, it could be an interesting (and amusing) episode of "DD:BA" (probably don't need more than that) to show how someone would deal with suddenly being alone for 5 years, as well as handicapped. And, now that I think about it, it could actually be rather emotional if they wanted to go that route. It could also explain his kinda "new attitude" when we saw him in "She-Hulk". Either way, it will be very interesting to see what they do and I DEFINITELY think that it would be a missed opportunity to not at least explore that timeframe somehow in one or more of these shows.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/29/2023, 3:46 AM
@StSteven - aside from those less serious elements, that's exactly what I mean could happen.

How Matt perceives the whole dusting because he's blind is definitely interesting too. Hadn't thought about that
StSteven
StSteven - 3/29/2023, 3:13 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Yeah, you could include some of those jokes just to keep it from being too heavy (like Matt cleaning up the Foggy and Karen dust with a vacuum) and sitting there with his feet up on the desk just tossing a ball up in the air waiting for his phone to ring but it doesn't, and when it does it's someone wanting to sell him an extended auto warrantee or something). But otherwise it's an interesting scenario: like, I'm sure that realistically right after the Blip there would have been A LOT of looting and other crime in NYC. So DD probably would have been overwhelmed at first. But then when he realizes that he's busting guys who are stealing from dusted people and (as far as he knows) are never coming back, eventually he might just be like "F**k it" and give up trying. The same thing with Frank if he ended up not being dusted as well.

Like, I could see Frank being SUPER excited at first when the Blip happens because he's got criminals left and right that he can go after (and he didn't have anyone that he cared about anyway, except maybe Micro). But then after a year or two he just gets super bored and gives up trying as well. Finally we see Matt and Frank sitting on a rooftop sharing a 6-pack and they toast to "F**k it" (or something along those lines.

But then we see Matt in his office doing some other arbitrary thing (like a Ribik's cube in braille (do they even make those?)) and suddenly his phone starts ringing with new clients and he hears Foggy's and Karen's voices in their offices and he's, like, so excited. Likewise we see Frank chasing down some perps in an alley and is likewise super excited (well for Frank anyway), because now they both have a purpose again. End of episode. Cut! That's a wrap!

Plus, it would kinda explain whatever character/personality changes they may be planning for Matt, Frank, etc. (Fisk would likely just pick up where he left off personality/character wise, which is pretty much the vibe that you get from "Hawkeye"). BAM! There ya go!
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/29/2023, 5:50 PM
@StSteven - with 18 episodes, I could see some of that happen. The Blip and New York crime is something they gotta tap into
TiberiousOmega
TiberiousOmega - 3/22/2023, 12:21 PM
I honestly hope a good portion takes place during the Blip. So many story possibilities during that time period!
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 3/22/2023, 1:05 PM
@TiberiousOmega - That's where Blade should take place. With Vampires trying to rise out of the shadows and take over different aspects of NY but Blade intervenes.
LordMushu
LordMushu - 3/22/2023, 1:16 PM
@SonOfAGif - ooooh that’s awesome
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 3/22/2023, 1:41 PM
@SonOfAGif - That would be a good idea. But here's a question. Since Vampires are technically dead or at the very least, not alive, would any of them have gotten dusted since Thanos only snapped half of all living things?
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 3/22/2023, 1:50 PM
@CorndogBurglar - That would be an interesting plot point. That's why the vampires felt emboldened because none of them were dusted. So their numbers were higher than many city blocks in New York.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 3/22/2023, 2:02 PM
@SonOfAGif - Exactly! And it's one of those ambiguous questions that it's hard to answer. Like, WOULD they have gotten dusted? There's arguments for both sides.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 3/22/2023, 2:16 PM
@CorndogBurglar - Maybe they are the loophole because Thanos was specific to 50% of all living things. And since Vampires are the Un-Living, they tried to take over NY but Blade was there to stop that.
Odin
Odin - 3/22/2023, 12:21 PM
Huh, maybe that's why Foggy is a no-show. Gotta say, the snap/blip from Matt's perspective is a really intriguing idea. Him not being able to see people being dusted, but still sensing it, as the sound of people's heartbeats and breathing around him just suddenly stop.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 3/22/2023, 12:45 PM
@Odin - that would be wicked cool to see and see how matt reacts etc..
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 3/22/2023, 7:26 PM
@Odin - I think you're on to something. It's unfortunate, if true. The season is 18 episodes long so maybe there's a time skip in the later half where they return
DocSpock
DocSpock - 3/22/2023, 12:21 PM

This should be the greatest of all the Disney+ shows.

If they puSSify DD & Punisher or spend all their energy on wokiness & none on quality like some of the other D+ shows, I am out.

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