Netflix's DAREDEVIL Showrunner Steven DeKnight Calls BORN AGAIN MCU Reboot An "Old Disney Scam"

Netflix's DAREDEVIL Showrunner Steven DeKnight Calls BORN AGAIN MCU Reboot An "Old Disney Scam"

Netflix's Daredevil was cancelled after three seasons, and showrunner Steven DeKnight believes the decision to develop a (soft) reboot for Disney+ is "an old Disney scam."

By MarkCassidy - Sep 18, 2023 09:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil

Netflix's Daredevil series ran for three seasons before being cancelled along with the rest of the streamer's Marvel-based shows, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, The Punisher and Luke Cage, back in 2018.

Marvel Studios' decision to reboot (though many view it as more of a soft relaunch) the Man Without Fear's small-screen adventures for Daredevil: Born Again was welcomed by the majority of fans, but it seems at least a few of the people who worked on the original series may not be quite so enthusiastic.

A crew member on the Netflix show Tweeted the following:

"I worked on all of the Marvel Netflix shows which all were cancelled in season two or three. Our contracts only give us full vacation pay (like 36 cents per hour worked or some shit) on season three shows. Four years of work I never got a raise or vacation pay. Like $20,000."

He continued, tagging showrunner Steven DeKnight:

"And not only did they cancel Daredevil once crew got full raise and holiday/vacation pay…. The Disney+ reboot is back to season one IATSE contract terms. It’s a [frick]ing scam. I wonder if @stevendeknight knows that!"

You can check out DeKnight's response below.

This is indeed something Disney has done in the past (rebranding several shows after their third seasons, including the likes of The Suite Life of Zack & Cody, Liv and Maddie, and Hannah Montana), but we're not sure Born Again really falls into the same category, since, as previously mentioned, Marvel Studios pulled all of their Netflix shows when they regained the full rights to the respective characters.

What do you make of DeKnight's take on the situation? Drop us a comment down below.

Charlie Cox (Matt Murdock), Vincent D'Onofrio (Wilson Fisk), and Jon Bernthal (Frank Castle/The Punisher) will all reprise their roles from the now defunct Netflix series, along with new cast members Michael Gandolfini, Nikki M. James and Sandrine Holt.

We recently learned that Holt will play Vanessa Fisk, while James is believed to be playing Kristen McDuffie. Gandolfini's role hasn't been confirmed, but there's speculation that he'll wither be playing a younger take on Fisk in flashbacks, or the villain's son.

The show will be loosely based on the '80s Marvel Comics series of the same name by Frank Miller and David Mazzuchelli, but is not expected to be an overly faithful adaptation. Despite some significant changes to the story, "Daredevil versus Wilson Fisk, aka the Kingpin, remains the focal point."

Born Again will be PG-13, but Marc Jobst, who helmed some key episodes of the Netflix show, simply doesn't believe Cox, D'Onofrio and Bernthal would have agreed to return if they didn't think it was going to work.

"So I’ve got no idea what they’re doing and how they’re approaching the Disney version of those worlds," he said in a recent interview. "I can’t imagine that Charlie, Vince and Jon would sign up for something that they felt was anodyne. They just wouldn’t do it. So in some form or another, Disney must have persuaded them to say, 'This is a journey worth coming on.'"

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grif
grif - 9/18/2023, 9:11 PM
everything on d+ is a old disney scam
WaffeX
WaffeX - 9/18/2023, 9:20 PM
I hope they bring back Bullseye

TheLobster
TheLobster - 9/18/2023, 10:01 PM
@WaffeX - I loved the series take on Bullseye and would love to see him return!
JFerguson
JFerguson - 9/18/2023, 9:24 PM
Not in this case I feel. I think they're clearly going for a new tone that warrants a "reset" to season 1. I'm just grateful we got returning cast.

Is this crew member even returning to the new show?
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 9/19/2023, 10:22 AM
@JFerguson - Don't agree with that. Its like getting your job back with the same or less pay and benefits. I wouldn't be surprised if everyone gives less effort or phones it in. All different show runner, writers, and action directors so you can't expect the same quality as the Netflix shows.
Origame
Origame - 9/18/2023, 9:27 PM
That'd make sense but I don't think that's the case.

First of all, ain't no way the series is getting canceled because of contract fees.

Second, you have to remember disney and Netflix are two different companies.
gtabreaker
gtabreaker - 9/18/2023, 9:27 PM
Stinkor1
Stinkor1 - 9/18/2023, 9:36 PM
RitoRevolto
RitoRevolto - 9/18/2023, 9:42 PM
@Stinkor1 - This gif lol.
malschla
malschla - 9/18/2023, 9:36 PM
Do people not read contracts they sign? I mean, this is fairly typical. If you see sweetheart terms late in a contract and there is a clause that can be exercised to terminate before they kick in… well, it’s literally spelled out for you what will happen.
TheLobster
TheLobster - 9/18/2023, 10:06 PM
@malschla - you’re missing the fairly simple point: Disney shouldn’t be doing this in the first place. If the argument is “well they signed the contract!” then you are greatly overestimating the power these crew members have lol
Himura
Himura - 9/19/2023, 2:44 AM
@TheLobster - To add, a lot of these shows, especially the Disney network ones, are a lot of the actor's big breaks into the industry. They'll sign almost any deal. On top of that, that a good majority of shows rarely make it past one or two seasons or even the pilot episode.
malschla
malschla - 9/19/2023, 2:47 PM
@TheLobster - Why don't they have any power?
TheLobster
TheLobster - 9/20/2023, 11:56 PM
@malschla - is this a real question? I mean okay.. I’ll bite.

If you’re a working crew member, chances are that unless you’re a go-to member for someone like Quentin Tarantino - you need to take the job you can get. That is, unless you don’t mind starving and losing your apartment. Now let’s say a team member gets a call and the rate is lower than what they have been getting - do you think them saying no will have ANY effect? Hell no. There’s a million other folks who would champ at the bit to get on set so they’ll gladly take shit pay.. and studios know this.

Look no further than vfx artists. The fx team for Life of Pi went [frick]ing bankrupt while that film was winning an Oscar. Why? Because the greedy ass studio worked them to death and they have to pay overtime out of pocket.
TheLobster
TheLobster - 9/20/2023, 11:57 PM
@Himura - exactly
malschla
malschla - 9/21/2023, 7:51 AM
@TheLobster - Aren’t those cheaper replacements inferior?
TheLobster
TheLobster - 9/21/2023, 1:29 PM
@malschla - well yeah but do you honestly think studios care? They don’t. They only care about how much profit they can squeeze.
malschla
malschla - 9/21/2023, 1:34 PM
@TheLobster - Okay, so I don't see the issue. If the companies paying for it are okay with the inferior output, does it really matter?

Supply is high, demand is relatively low.
TheLobster
TheLobster - 9/21/2023, 4:14 PM
@malschla - the issue is that it shouldn’t be the standard to rip off your workforce to make a quick buck. That’s exploitation of workers and it’s beyond [frick]ed up. Disney is worth billions so they’re the last ones who should be doing that.
malschla
malschla - 9/21/2023, 4:45 PM
@TheLobster - Again... how is it ripping someone off to pay them at the rate they agreed to?
GeneralChaos
GeneralChaos - 9/18/2023, 9:54 PM
How can Disney "reset the terms" of a contract when the contract was owned by Netflix? For this to be true, Netflix would have to reset the terms. Marvel was the "employee" contracted to produce a show for the "boss" Netflix.
TheLobster
TheLobster - 9/18/2023, 10:00 PM
Disney has all the revenue in the world and they still operate as greedy ass capitalists so this checks out.
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