ECHO: New Details About Charlie Cox's Return As DAREDEVIL Revealed - Possible SPOILERS

ECHO: New Details About Charlie Cox's Return As DAREDEVIL Revealed - Possible SPOILERS

It's no secret that Echo will star Daredevil: Born Again's Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio, but some new details about the Man Without Fear's role in the Disney+ series may have now been revealed...

By JoshWilding - May 17, 2023 06:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Echo

Yesterday evening, Marvel Studios announced that all episodes of Echo will be released on Disney+ on November 29. There's currently no word on how many instalments of the series we'll get, but this is a decision that's generated a great deal of speculation among MCU fans.

Is this simply a way for the streaming service to test a Netflix-style release schedule (which may avoid the loss of viewers from week to week and deliver a subscriber boost) or an indication the Hawkeye spin-off simply isn't very good?

That's one of the most popular theories at the moment, especially after past reports about the series running into creative issues. 

Time will tell, but there's certainly still a lot of excitement for Echo. Set photos have confirmed that Vincent D'Onofrio will reprise his role as The Kingpin, while Charlie Cox is also expected to appear as Matt Murdock, setting the stage for Daredevil: Born Again

According to one reliable scooper, the Man Without Fear will first appear in episode 2, though it sounds like he may well have a recurring presence throughout the entire series. 

The origin story of Echo revisits Maya Lopez (Alaqua Cox), whose ruthless behaviour in New York City catches up with her in her hometown. She must face her past, reconnect with her Native American roots and embrace the meaning of family and community if she ever hopes to move forward.

Echo will also star Chaske Spencer (Wild IndianThe English), Tantoo Cardinal (Killers of the Flower MoonStumptown), Devery Jacobs (FX’s Reservation DogsAmerican Gods) and Cody Lightning (Hey, Viktor!Four Sheets to the Wind), with Graham Greene (1883Goliath) and Zahn McClarnon (Dark Winds).

As noted, the series hits Disney+ this November. 

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REMIMARKS
REMIMARKS - 5/17/2023, 6:47 AM
Releasing all the episodes isn't necessarily a bad thing.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 5/17/2023, 9:31 AM
@REMIMARKS - i dont understand the rush to call everything a failure or disappointing especially before it comes out. i think this is a sign that the early episodes will be a slow burn and past experience slow burn week to week generates negative buzz that sticks around until the 3rd or 4th episode when the story picks up. by then the damage is done and the trolls and click-bait sites have control of the narrative about a show.
RolandD
RolandD - 5/17/2023, 1:16 PM
@supermanrex - Many on this site have been hating on this show since it was first announced. They just have another issue to pile up on now.
NegativeNerd
NegativeNerd - 5/17/2023, 2:23 PM
@supermanrex - This 100%. People are so focused on wanting things to fail. It's more of a reflectance on their life than anything.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 5/17/2023, 3:39 PM
@RolandD - this site is a negative hot take cesspool. alot of cinema "experts" here.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 5/17/2023, 3:40 PM
@NegativeNerd - trolls be trolling with their "clever" hot takes.
RolandD
RolandD - 5/17/2023, 6:05 PM
@supermanrex - Yep. It sure is and it definitely seems worse than it used to be. Fortunately, there still are a lot of great comments from many users.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 5/17/2023, 6:56 AM
I wonder sometimes why some are so driven to engage in their roots.
JoeInTheBox
JoeInTheBox - 5/17/2023, 6:58 AM
I don't get the assumption that dropping all the episodes at once is bad. If anything it's a good thing, especially for shows with little buzz going in. It might have drawn more eyes to Andor with strong word of mouth from people that binged the whole season.

If Echo was bad, I feel like Disney would have dumped it after the holiday season in order to fill out the release void and just dropped Loki season 2 in November release week-to-week through December for the holiday viewers.

If anything releasing Echo at the end of November shows some confidence, to me.
Drace24
Drace24 - 5/17/2023, 7:59 AM
@JoeInTheBox - In the case of Andor it would have certainly helped not having to wait for three weeks until that show finally resolves a generic heist plot.
NegativeNerd
NegativeNerd - 5/17/2023, 2:26 PM
@JoeInTheBox - Hmmm good points...that gives me a good idea. Maybe some shows can drop all episodes simultaneously since they want to space out a bit. Already hits like Loki, Daredevil, WandaVision make sense to do it weekly. Something new like Wonder Man, Echo, or maybe even Iron Heart wouldn't necessarily hurt to release all at once without the pressure of spacing out. It's an idea.
JoeInTheBox
JoeInTheBox - 5/17/2023, 3:46 PM
@NegativeNerd - I think they're trying out new release models, to try to anything to negate losing subscribers.

If the show is a bust, then it'll be in the news cycle way less than it would be if it's all bad. Week-to-week news articles about how bad the show is, compared to just the one week the entire show is dropped.

ptick
ptick - 5/17/2023, 5:39 PM
@NegativeNerd - I think it goes beyond whether the character is popular or not. WandaVision was brilliant as a weekly release because there was so much speculation and intrigue. Loki - which I loved anyway - along with Hawkeye and FATWS kinda all felt like miniseries and might have been better to binge. Ms. Marvel felt more like a TV show in structure so weekly made sense to me. Just some examples. Obviously the other things mentioned are factors as well.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 5/17/2023, 7:06 AM
These shows would've been received slightly better if they dropped their eps at once. Hope that's a thing they do from now on.

The finales are generally disappointing because people have to wait a week to watch them.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 5/17/2023, 8:55 AM
@HOTSHOT - Not at all, man. There is a lot of analysis that goes into why they drop weekly episodes instead of the binge method. Believe it or not, Disney knows how to mange the market.
VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 5/17/2023, 7:18 AM
"Time will tell, but there's certainly still a lot of excitement for Echo."










For the record: Echo is one of my Phase 4 favorites. Still, less is more. Let her water slow boil. Not fizzle out on the 2nd outing... penny, penny.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 5/17/2023, 7:32 AM
@VictorAlonzo - Agreed. Not everyone needs a show.

The audience for Echo, Agathar Harkness, and VisonQuest is not wide.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 5/17/2023, 9:05 AM
@HOTSHOT - The characters that get a show is for a reason. It's storytelling, not some crapshoot. It's also broadening their reach. They don't need every single project to be about who's the most popular character. It's not like they're doing these project in lieu of others. We're still getting the big characters. But they ALSO produce projects that will get more people involved. All the while, they fill small gaps with their lesser known characters.

Marvel Studios has succeeded because they appeal to all genres. Geopolitical thrillers, street level brawlers, heist comedies, space opera, etc.

At the end of they day, popular characters does not automatically equal quality and success. Just ask James Gunn. Before GotG, Vol. 1, people bemoaned it was a stupid idea to bring D-list characters to the table...now look.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 5/17/2023, 9:27 AM
@HOTSHOT - says who?? especially vision??? with all the clamoring wanting to know where white vision is at? Paul Bettany has alot fans who love his character. so stop grand sweeping everyone into your personal opinion. maybe just YOU dont look forward to those shows.
VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 5/17/2023, 10:27 AM
@Tonic24k - I like your theory, but I've mostly lost hope in MARVEL'S execution, due to past letdowns...

Shows are starting to protrude Disney and diminish MARVEL in story framework. Penny, penny.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 5/18/2023, 3:40 AM
@supermanrex - I love Paul Bettany's Vision and want to see what happens next with White Vision. However, I'd rather see that happen as an event that's compacted into existing titles rather than dedicating an entire weekly release to it.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 5/19/2023, 9:29 AM
@HOTSHOT - the weekly shows are invaluable. i rather get alot of exposure to my favorite characters than fifteen minutes total time out of a two hour movie that has to balance development between multiple main characters. the only way to flesh out these characters is more screen time.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 5/20/2023, 4:59 PM
@VictorAlonzo - I've been letdown by some projects like Thor 4 and even MoM to a degree, too. But otherwise it's still MOSTLY good. (SH CGI is also a fair criticism.)

Phase 1 and 2 had some mid level films all the same. They just weren't stacked up against culmination films like IW and Endgame. We're simply back to Phase 1 and 2 of the next saga. And frankly, yeah, we've had some misses...but we've also had some awesome entries to the MCU. People just have to quit expecting the roller coaster to never come down.
VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 5/21/2023, 12:59 AM
@Tonic24k - one of my favorite tv shows of all time is Rod Sterlings "Twilight Zone".


A story that often takes place in 1-3 locations per episode, with a simple story that goes awry, and leads towords a wide variety from funny to cataclysmic outimes.

I say all that to say this: I don't need a million dollar budget to enjoy a merry go round.

Give me a solid story. A solid story is easy to understand, which leads to understandable decisions, that lead to suspicious activity which unravels into whatever portrait the artist decides.

Give me that. With a cast of characters, I have liked to pay attention to in my spare time, for several decades.

It'll make money. It'll increase fans. Win. Win...
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 5/22/2023, 8:06 PM
@VictorAlonzo - I don't disagree with any of that. Sometimes simplicity is the best art. But also, these CBMs can't rely solely on that. People will complain one way or the other; can't please everyone. And at the end of they day, it's anyone's guess what the future of the MCU will be like. Is Marvel Studios learning from some of their mistakes? Will they double down? I, for one, trust Feige and Co. are smart enough to figure this all out.
mountainman
mountainman - 5/17/2023, 8:07 AM
I bet it’ll be like She Hulk where they heavily market Daredevil then he’s barely in it.
LeonNova
LeonNova - 5/17/2023, 9:59 AM
@mountainman - I’m sure he’ll play a bigger role than he did in She-Hulk. He’s much more closely tied with Echo and Kingpin, and I’m sure this show will set the stage for Born Again to some degree:
RolandD
RolandD - 5/17/2023, 1:20 PM
@LeonNova - That sounds about right to me.
hainesy
hainesy - 5/17/2023, 9:20 AM
Two things:

1. I much prefer all episodes being released at once. I've actually started to wait for series to end, then watched them at my leisure.

2. Echo was my least favorite part of the Hawkeye series. I don't mind the idea of the character, but didn't like the MCU interpretation. It just felt too forced. Hopefully this series changes my mind.
PartyKiller
PartyKiller - 5/17/2023, 10:01 AM
After his appearance in the She-Hulk disaster, interest in the Charlie Cox Daredevil has declined like interest in Bud Light.
RolandD
RolandD - 5/17/2023, 1:21 PM
@PartyKiller - Sure, if you say so.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 5/18/2023, 3:50 AM
@PartyKiller - He was perfect in that though. As someone who loved him in the Netflix show, he seemed even better in She-Hulk. He has more of the dimensions of comic book Matt now. And that show was a sitcom so I'm even more excited to see how he does in his own series.
AvalonX
AvalonX - 5/17/2023, 2:24 PM
There may be some who somehow feel this series is a good idea. The reality is, Echo isn't really an interesting character. They had to turn into the phoenix in the comics and shes not even on the current Avengers team anymore. It doesn't help that Alaqua Cox has no screen presence at all.

You'll be able to YouTube all Daredevil/Kingpin scenes on YouTube after a day of release if you are just watching to prepare.
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