THE RATS, THE WITCHER's Troubled, Long-Delayed Spin-Off, Described As A "Disaster" Worse Than BLOOD ORIGIN

THE RATS, THE WITCHER's Troubled, Long-Delayed Spin-Off, Described As A "Disaster" Worse Than BLOOD ORIGIN

It's been two years since The Rats paused shooting, and a new report claims to shed some light on what's going on with Netflix's disastrous The Witcher spin-off. You can learn more after the jump...

By JoshWilding - Aug 26, 2025 06:08 PM EST
Filed Under: The Witcher
Source: Redanian Intelligence (via SFFGazette.com)

It's hard to believe, but more than two years have passed since The Witcher spin-off, The Rats, "finished" shooting. Since then, we've heard very little about the project, and pretty much nothing from Netflix. Still, no one seems overly bothered, seeing as Blood Origin was such a let-down. 

Redanian Intelligence (via SFFGazette.com) has just shared an update, revealing that their sources have said the show "behind the scenes was a disaster," "worse than Blood Origin," and that "everything went wrong." 

You may recall reports that production on the series was paused two months into a six-month shoot, allegedly a result of Netflix executives deciding that it wasn't worth continuing after they'd screened some early footage.  

2023's WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes did little to help matters, and the decision was made to release The Rats as a feature-length special called The Rats: A Witcher's Tale. Post-production on that was reportedly taking place when work started on The Witcher season 4, but the site has also heard that "Netflix [was] considering [chopping up] the footage and [serving] it as flashbacks in The Witcher Season 4."

With Netflix wrapping up The Witcher with its fourth and fifth seasons, it wouldn't be overly surprising if the streamer pulls the plug on The Rats altogether. The show has never been the Game of Thrones beater that the platform expected, and with Liam Hemsworth taking over from Henry Cavill, interest in the property has further waned.

With that in mind, spending money to finish The Rats probably isn't worth it. 

Original plans called for the show to run from 6 - 8 episodes, exploring the origin story of the group that Ciri meets in The Witcher's season 3 finale. She wasn't going to appear, though, given where it takes place in the timeline. 

"Six teenage thieves must rely on their criminal skills as they plan the biggest heist of their careers against the most dangerous crime ring in the kingdom," reads a previously released synopsis for The Rats

The cast of the show was set to include Ben Radcliffe as Giselher, Christelle Elwin as Mistle, Fabian McCallum as Kayleigh, Aggy K. Adams as Iskra, Juliette Alexandra as Reef, Connor Crawford as Asse, Dolph Lundgren as Brehen, Sharlto Copley as Leo Bonhart, Deoudone Pretorius as Juniper, Morgan Jade Santo as Dulcie, Bianca Simone Mannie as Sonora, Carla Fonseca Mokgata as Orla, Litha Bam as Miss Skret, Stevel Marc as Lord Ridot, Aubrey Shelton as Barker, and Warren Masemola in an unknown role. 

Haily Hall, who wrote multiple episodes of The Witcher during its first three seasons, was tapped to serve as showrunner with Mairzee Almas directing. 

The Witcher season 4 is supposedly still scheduled for a 2025 release, but we've had no trailer and no confirmed premiere date. With that in mind, it seems likely Netflix plans to drop it with little notice or fanfare.

As always, stay tuned for updates on The Rats as we have them.

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Polaris
Polaris - 8/26/2025, 6:36 PM
It's sad how they mishandled the witcher, when it had so much potential
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 8/27/2025, 11:31 AM
@Polaris - thats what happens when the main producer and showrunner isn't a fan of the franchise. she initially passed on the franchise twice but netflix for some reason wanted her so bad they allowed her to do anything she wanted with their adaptation. thats why Cavil left because there were creative differences in the story that he felt was unfaithful to the source and Geralt was becoming the 3rd wheel to Ciri and Yennefer's show despite it being called "the witcher".

its the same reason why Halo's TV Show flopped too.
Polaris
Polaris - 8/27/2025, 12:02 PM
@mastakilla39 - Yeah, Henry was the only one who cared. I think even when the showrunners say they're fans, they still try to change things because they think they can make it better, and then they only make it worse.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/26/2025, 6:48 PM
Damn , that’s unfortunate if true…

I haven’t kept up with the Witcher post S1 (which was ok imo) So didn’t see Blood Origin which I know was received negatively by critics so if this was in a similar boat or even worse then that sucks since the premise seems fun imo.

I could see them releasing it as a feature length special rather then integrating it into S4 but might be less costly do the latter so we’ll see.

Honestly , the best thing to come out of Netflix’s take was the Nightmare of The Wolf animated film which I thought was good!!.

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WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 8/26/2025, 8:04 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Nightmare of the Wolf was fantastic
MaxPaint
MaxPaint - 8/26/2025, 6:56 PM
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Astroman
Astroman - 8/26/2025, 7:33 PM
This was an awful idea from the start. You’d have really had to seen a public love for these characters to have had a vested audience anyway asking to see more.

The Witcher series could have been great but the showrunner, Lauren Schmidt Hissrich, had no clue what she was doing.
TheLight
TheLight - 8/26/2025, 7:39 PM
Sounds like Henry was right to jump ship from this royal flush.


Leaving it to the likes of one of Kathleen Kennedy's clones, Lauren Schmidt, was the worst decision to make.


The Witcher should've been amazing! Now, it's going to be another causality of media limbo.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 8/26/2025, 8:27 PM

The Witcher was doomed from the start. Schmidt had no clue what to do with it and didn't have the skills to save it when things started falling apart. The books were very interesting. Way better than what we saw on TV.
rebellion
rebellion - 8/27/2025, 3:18 AM
@DocSpock - that woman was an obviously oblivious idiot from the get go. You take one look at her, you hear her speak for 5 secs and its obvious shes not cut out for the job.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 8/27/2025, 11:00 AM
@rebellion -

You are soooo right. It makes you wonder how idiots like that get such high level jobs.
OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 8/26/2025, 8:27 PM
"You may recall"

This is the first I hear about any of this. Netflix killed this franchise when they fired the only person who actually gave a [frick] about any of it, then double tapped just to make sure with blood origin.
Mercwitham0uth
Mercwitham0uth - 8/26/2025, 10:40 PM
I didn't even know there was a 2nd spin-off announced.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 8/27/2025, 1:35 AM
Where does all this throw away money come from for projects like this?
DocSpock
DocSpock - 8/27/2025, 1:56 AM
@JustAWaffle -

Pitchman with some industry cred somehow convinces a filthy rich studio exec that it's a gold mine and will change the whole paradigm of how we watch TV or movies.

Then the greedy bastard greenlights it and hands over dump trucks of cash.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 8/27/2025, 4:23 AM
@DocSpock - Makes sense. But I don't get how they keep doing the same thing over and over again with money bags still dropping cash all over it. I've heard that they're beginning to cut back on funding, but it took a long time for them to realize this.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 8/27/2025, 11:04 AM
@JustAWaffle -

The highest level guys think they can do no wrong. They just see things like this as blips. Until their names come up at stockholder meetings. Then they throw word salad like quality over quantity will fix things. But until they get sacked, they keep repeating the same mistakes.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 8/27/2025, 1:52 PM
@DocSpock - just glad I don’t have Disney stock. Apple on the other hand is about to roll out a plethora of new devices that everyone here should get their hands on soon. The IOS26 is going to be a game changer.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 8/27/2025, 4:53 PM
@JustAWaffle -

I have Apple stock. I live and die with their successes/failures. New IOS is always something new for cavemen me to learn. Dagnabbit!! But the features look great.


rebellion
rebellion - 8/27/2025, 3:15 AM
What netflix did to the property should be punishable by law.

I wish we could get an animated series in the style of CDPR cinematics... oh well, not in my lifetime.
EvilErnie
EvilErnie - 8/27/2025, 4:39 AM
I rather wonder, why still no release for Season 4.
SteviesRightFoo
SteviesRightFoo - 8/27/2025, 4:57 AM
All these 'creatives' should watch Peter Jackson interview from around fellowship of the ring time about not inputting your own baggage or views when ADAPTING an extant work. The gall of some of the Hollywood creeps in mind blowing
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 8/27/2025, 7:10 AM
This show was never that great to begin with. There was one thing holding it together and it was Henry. When he left the show was over.
PC04
PC04 - 8/27/2025, 8:44 AM
The Witcher needs a GoT level budget with a production team and writers room that RESPECTS the lore and source material. They should've listened to and supported Henry Cavill in this role.
xKingLobox
xKingLobox - 8/27/2025, 1:06 PM
There isn't much to "spinoff" in the Witcher - Instead I think you could make an anthology series that adapts some of the character pieces before the Witcher got involved...for example in the game - expand on the before hand of the investigations.

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