ANDOR Showrunner Tony Gilroy Talks Dave Filoni Rumors And Disney Not Wanting Him To Discuss Fascism

@Wahhvacado - YESSSSSS! PLEASE!!!!!!

@cadunovaes01 - I think it’s solid and definitely up there for me in terms of the Disney era.

However I do think I slightly prefer TLJ which I’m sure won’t be controversial lol

I hope we do get another Gilroy SW show eventually but as of now , I’m looking forward to him going back to more original work such as Behemoth which stars Pedro Pascal etc.

@cadunovaes01 - i think the sequel trilogy is decent..

Its really TROS that brings it down for me with its mediocrity though it has its moments aswell.

@skyshark03191 - True but the Universe of Star Wars is a collaborative effort and despite him being too narrow, Im sure the rest of the team could cover that quite easily. Honestly rather have him than the two they broke up roles for due to their inexperiences.

@Clintthahamster - Yeah...I know.

@Vigor - To back you up on this point, even tho I have MANY, MANY issues with Disney as a company...

Fascism is characterized by support for a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived interest of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy

I mean it is fairly easy to pick out specific bits of a whole to say someone, a company or political leaders have fascist traits (even when left leaning). However it is impossible to say one company that has multiple competing companies and dependent on the populace to want to pay for their products to ever truly BE fascist, Disney or any other mega-media-corp and any company that aims for diversity and inclusion and doesn't have a military wing can't be, ever, even if some in CEO roles of some of them MAY at times support the idea of a more dictatorial type of national leadership (which for all of Disney's flaws they don't).

For one thing, ALL media companies fully support freedom of speech even whilst at times directing those they employ to be careful what they say that may impact profit margins or whatever (and fire them if they don't toe the company line) and a HUGE thing of fascism is heavy handed control of speech which letting go an actor who won't shut up may seem like but really isn't as that actor is still able to say whatever they want AFTER being fired.

@Vigor - Let's not pretend that words like "fascism" have any real meaning these days...they are used whenever someone wants a boogy man word to use....it doesn't have any meaning now.

@Dahulk2001 - I am not nor ever would put down any faith, I am a man of very strong faith even if not one identical to yours.

However if you believe In 'Yahuwa Yahusha Hamashach, Jesus christ, Yahway Adoni' (sic) then you very much have been 'lead to belive by entity' (sic)... 'forced onto the population'.

I was raised Christian and there are a lot of powerful and important messages within the texts and still have a strong faith even if it has evolved beyond JUST Christian teachings...

...but to put down one persons opinion that they may have acquired from one or more entity as you think another, i.e. the Church, is more truthful and accurate is a very blinkered way to live as non of the Christian texts were written by God or Christ but by men thus open to being twisted and warped versions of the word of God that cannot IMO always be 100% trusted as truth and what God meant or intends.

Historically that twisting of the word of God has been used to make people do terrible things by powerful people which was why most Western democratic countries started doing the whole separation of the Church from the state, not putting down the faith but insulating government from being led or controlled by the Church.

Again, I am NOT putting down your faith AT ALL, but a company MAY be very, very, very bad in many, many, many ways and Disney as a company now and historically has many, many, many issues but by definition of the term a COMPANY working within a democratic country with a multitude of laws and regulations it must work within and multiple competitors cannot, by the definition of the term, be fascist.

An individual can have fascist traits but ONLY a government can truly fall under the full definition of the term, a for profit company with no military wing can't be.

@bobevanz -

@LiquidSwords -
TYVM. This will be my first "block" here.

@LiquidSwords -

And now that you've set all the pansy-a$$ radical anarchistic crybaby liberals' panties on fire, I'm gonna get my tequila and popcorn and watch the show.

@LiquidSwords - project*

@ninerstreet -

You under count Biden's effect. He destroyed the border, and let in 25 million illegal aliens in 4 years. Over 80% of them went straight on welfare/snap/free healthcare. That has done the worst damage to our country by any president in our history. We may never fully recover from that.

@catmandom - Welcome to the club! It's a much nicer site when all the bootlickers and bigots just . . . aren't there.

@JayBird - And I noticed my two replies were removed. I appreciate the cancel culture bs. 😀

@JayBird - You're missing some context, Baby Huey. Selective memory or willful stupidity?

“According to the idea of the NSDAP [Nazi party], we are the German left. Nothing is more hateful to us than the right-wing national ownership block.”

Source:
Joseph Goebbels, Der Angriff (The Attack), (6 December 1931), quoted in Wolfgang Venohr’s book: Documents of German existence: 500 years of German national history 1445-1945, Athenäum Verlag, 1980, p. 291, In German: „Der Idee der NSDAP entsprechend sind wir die deutsche Linke. Nichts ist uns verhaßter als der rechtsstehende nationale

Hitler on Teaching Socialism
“There is a difference between the theoretical knowledge of socialism and the practical life of socialism. People are not born socialists, but must first be taught how to become them.” – October 5, 1937, speech in Berlin

Hitler on Capitalism
“In those countries, it is actually capital that rules; that is, nothing more than a clique of a few hundred men who possess untold wealth and, as a consequence of the peculiar structure of their national life, are more or less independent and free. They say: ‘Here we have liberty.’ By this they mean, above all, an uncontrolled economy, and by an uncontrolled economy, the freedom not only to acquire capital but to make absolutely free use of it. That means freedom from national control or control by the people both in the acquisition of capital and in its employment. This is really what they mean when they speak of liberty. These capitalists create their own press and then speak of the ‘freedom of the press.’ In reality, every one of the newspapers has a master, and in every case this master is the capitalist, the owner. This master, not the editor, is the one who directs the policy of the paper. If the editor tries to write other than what suits the master, he is ousted the next day. This press, which is the absolutely submissive and characterless slave of the owners, molds public opinion. Yes, certainly, we jeopardize the liberty to profiteer at the expense of the community, and, if necessary, we even abolish it.” – December 10, 1940, speech in Berlin

Hitler on Socialism
“Socialism as the final concept of duty, the ethical duty of work, not just for oneself but also for one’s fellow man’s sake, and above all the principle: Common good before own good, a struggle against all parasitism and especially against easy and unearned income. And we were aware that in this fight we can rely on no one but our own people. We are convinced that socialism in the right sense will only be possible in nations and races that are Aryan, and there in the first place we hope for our own people and are convinced that socialism is inseparable from nationalism.” – August 15, 1920, speech in Munich at the Hofbräuhaus.

“Socialism is the ideology of the future.” – Letter to Ernst Graf zu Reventlow as quoted in Goebbels: A Biography

“The bourgeoisie has to yield to the working class … Whatever is about to fall should be pushed. We are all soldiers of the revolution. We want the workers’ victory over filthy lucre. That is socialism.” -quoted in Doctor Goebbels: His Life and Death

“We are socialists, because we see in socialism, that means, in the fateful dependence of all folk comrades upon each other, the sole possibility for the preservation of our racial genetics and thus the re-conquest of our political freedom and for the rejuvenation of the German state. – “Why We Are Socialists?” Der Angriff (The Attack ), July 16, 1928

“We are not a charitable institution but a Party of revolutionary socialists.” -Der Angriff editorial, May 27, 1929

“Capitalism assumes unbearable forms at the moment when the personal purposes that it serves run contrary to the interest of the overall folk. It then proceeds from things and not from people. Money is then the axis around which everything revolves. It is the reverse with socialism. The socialist worldview begins with the folk and then goes over to things. Things are made subservient to the folk; the socialist puts the folk above everything, and things are only means to an end.” -”Capitalism,” Der Angriff, July 15, 1929

“In 1918 there was only one task for the German socialist: to keep the weapons and defend German socialism.” -”Capitalism,” Der Angriff, July 15, 1929

“To be a socialist means to let the ego serve the neighbour, to sacrifice the self for the whole. In its deepest sense socialism equals service.” – diary notes (1926)

“The lines of German socialism are sharp, and our path is clear. We are against the political bourgeoisie, and for genuine nationalism! We are against Marxism, but for true socialism!” – Those Damn Nazis: Why Are We Socialists? (1932)

“We are socialists because we see the social question as a matter of necessity and justice for the very existence of a state for our people, not a question of cheap pity or insulting sentimentality. The worker has a claim to a living standard that corresponds to what he produces.” – Those Damn Nazis: Why Are We Socialists? (1932)

“England is a capitalist democracy. Germany is a socialist people’s state.” – “Englands Schuld” (the speech is not dated, but likely was given in 1939)

“Because we are socialists we have felt the deepest blessings of the nation, and because we are nationalists we want to promote socialist justice in a new Germany.” – Die verfluchten Hakenkreuzler. Etwas zum Nachdenken (1932)

“The sin of liberal thinking was to overlook socialism’s nation-building strengths, thereby allowing its energies to go in anti-national directions.” – Die verfluchten Hakenkreuzler. Etwas zum Nachdenken (1932)

“To be a socialist is to submit the I to the thou; socialism is sacrificing the individual to the whole. Socialism is in its deepest sense service.” – as quoted in Escape from Freedom, Erich Fromm

“We are a workers’ party because we see in the coming battle between finance and labor the beginning and the end of the structure of the twentieth century. We are on the side of labor and against finance. . . The value of labor under socialism will be determined by its value to the state, to the whole community.”-Those Damn Nazis: Why Are We Socialists? (1932)

Does this help it make more sense? 😀