Megan Fox Laughs Off 'Wonder Woman' Rumors

Megan Fox Laughs Off 'Wonder Woman' Rumors

Why she wold never play such a "Lame" character.

By THEHAWK - May 03, 2009 08:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Wonder Woman
Source: starpulse

Actress Megan Fox has laughed off rumors she is to portray comic book heroine Wonder Woman in a movie - vowing never to play such a "lame" character. Director Joss Whedon is rumored to be putting together a cast for an upcoming big screen outing for the superhero Amazon.

Fox is reportedly in the running to play the lead role, but the Transformers 2 star is adamant she will not get involved with the comic book adaptation.

She tells British magazine FHM, "She's lame. She flies around in an invisible jet, but she's not invisible. I don't get it."

No Megan you don't get it, and we don't get YOU! Nor do we want you when there are hundreds of women who actually care about the role.

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Betty
Betty - 5/3/2009, 9:25 AM
ha. Hawk you are the weekend corespondent!
THEHAWK
THEHAWK - 5/3/2009, 9:36 AM
Well, when you are stuck in Alabama with fighting relatives, there is little else to do.
KeepItReal
KeepItReal - 5/3/2009, 9:58 AM
"She's lame. She flies around in an invisible jet, but she's not invisible. I don't get it."

WHAT?!! SHE'S "lame"?! How RUDE! Hmph! Girl is not all up there. Wonder Woman has all these powers and the invisible plane she doesnt get?! Forget about the fact that its supposed to be advanced technology at Wonder Womans disposal! THANK GOD she isnt a consideration, I knew she would be all wrong for Wonder Woman! BUt being a whore on Jonah Hex..THAT she gets...figures!
THEHAWK
THEHAWK - 5/3/2009, 10:05 AM
Agreed Real, I new this would get a rise out of you.
KeepItReal
KeepItReal - 5/3/2009, 10:11 AM
I KNEW IT!!! Caught!.. bait, hook and sinker! lol..

BLADE4040
BLADE4040 - 5/3/2009, 11:36 AM
Yea I like WW also but the invisible plane didnt work for either...remeber Linda Carters WW she flew around in the jet it was invisible but she wasnt. Thats kinda funny WW doesnt really need the jet she flies now she's a match for Superman almost the same power level along with Captain Marvel... alot of her powers are magically based and she's the perfection of womanhood maybe Ms.Fox missed all that. She gets playing a whore in the upcoming HEX movie....didnt know that was the part she was playing so I guess she gets that talk about LAME. Oh well WW is a GODDESS not a whore so we need someone to play her that has CLASS. Not to mention stand taller than 5'9 and weight more than 130lbs no 5'0 100lbs WW.
THEHAWK
THEHAWK - 5/3/2009, 11:55 AM
And WW doesn't have no anorexic 6 in waist like Fox does.
Phinehas
Phinehas - 5/3/2009, 12:23 PM
Stupid little woman. She has no idea what she had just done. Words at her level of fame are too powerful to say something like that. She will come to regret it, I guarantee.
Blade4040 is dead on! She knows playing a whore but not a woman. I don't want her neophyte zygote brain playing anything resembling WW now. Like she said, she doesn't get it! How then could she capture WW's essence on film??? She can continue playing tramps, hussies, and dolls for all I care. Perhaps that is all she considers herself worthy of portraying. I used to care about the height, but I realized FX can handle that, and a pass to the weight room can handle her physique. But the attitude? She needs Jesus.
Phinehas
Phinehas - 5/3/2009, 12:30 PM
@ KIR:
You mean jail bait, hooker, and sinker...as in career. LOL
TucsonRican
TucsonRican - 5/3/2009, 12:51 PM
Because Fathom is a better character? I feel like such a fanboy, but man she really burned the wrong bridge with that comment.

Wonder Woman will be a huge part for whoever plays her on the big screen.
TheSoulEater
TheSoulEater - 5/3/2009, 2:11 PM
She did not just call my woman LAME!!! If she wasn't hot i'd hit her with a glove!!!
Phinehas
Phinehas - 5/3/2009, 2:32 PM
@ SoulEater:
Hitting her with something soft like a glove wouldn't remove her hotness. Go ahead! Do it! It might knock something loose in that cavity of a cranium of hers.

I wonder if she's really a blond? Wait. Blonds would even be wiser than to say what she said.
DonkeyPuncher
DonkeyPuncher - 5/3/2009, 3:37 PM
i wonder if superman used his x-ray vision could he see wonder woman's invisible jet
BLADE4040
BLADE4040 - 5/3/2009, 4:02 PM
Ms.Fox probally hasnt realized how these movies put actors on a GLOBAL Map ITS ALMOST LIKE POSING FOR Playboy. Look at Hugh Jackman,anyone who's played Batman or Superman,people still remeber Linda Carter,Bill Bixby,Big LOU AND list goes on some of these characters didnt even make it to the big screen. Playing a comicbook superheroe is BIG time.Who knows maybe one day soon she'll try and retract that statement about WW being LAME.
OriginalPhysco
OriginalPhysco - 5/3/2009, 4:43 PM
I never got the invisible thing also; i think because im not a fan but Wonder Woman is awsome. hey atleast she doesnt have to fly around to look for a toilet but has to find the invisible toilet paper
10THTIGER
10THTIGER - 5/3/2009, 5:11 PM
LOL "REAL" U RIGHT SEEMS LIKE THE HO ROLE IS SUMTHIN SHE CAN SINK HER TEETH INTO LOL. ITS FUNNY SHE WOULD RATHER PLAY A SLUT THAN STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER LIKE DIANA. LETS JUST HOPE HER CHARACTER DIES IN THE HEX MOVIE LOLOLOL
KeepItReal
KeepItReal - 5/3/2009, 7:13 PM
I'd love to HEX Fox! B*tch! Like I said- it figures she gets playing a whore. Small minds, think small.

Wonder Woman always had the ability to fly in the comics, just for one reason or another they never had her fly in the TV show w/Lynda Carter. And Wonder Woman was always a match for Superman. She was granted amazing strength by the goddess Demeter.

Blade4040: "alot of her powers are magically based"

Her powers were not magically based, she wasnt a witch, there was no sorcery. Wonder Womans powers were bestowed upon her by the Greek goddesses & one god. To say magic makes her sound like Zatana. =:)

Hopefully Fox will come to realize the big faux pas she has just commited in the comic world!

Wonder Woman has vehicles of every type at her disposal- the only element they have in common is that they are INVISIBLE. All these wheeled, flying, or submerging vehicles are different aspects of the same miraculous machine. The super advanced technology came from an alien world and is capable of transforming into any vehicle Wonder Woman wishes for, whether she chooses to travel in an invisible jet, a deep-sea submersible, wonder-cylce or a horse drawn battle chariot. Mostly she used the invisible jet when she traveled in groups per the comics but again not on the tv.

Yea, it looked cheesy a bit but again, we're not supposed to "see" her is the idea. Only we do cuz we're watching the show. LOL.. With todays FX I'm sure they could do something more realistic and plausible. With the help of computers, the special effects is getting better and better.

To: 10THTIGER, Phinehas, SoulEater.. I hear ya!
TheSoulEater
TheSoulEater - 5/3/2009, 8:48 PM
No, I think a blonde would say "But Wonder Woman's superman's sister isn't she, cause they both you know, fly and stuff."

(And in her COMMENTS defense more then hers, I too had wondered the practicleness of her jet.
Phinehas
Phinehas - 5/3/2009, 9:49 PM
If it were me, I would abandon the whole invisible jet thing. It does create too many questions of plausibility that may cause a rational noncomic viewing fan to be unable to suspend disbelief. I'll give you that.
But for Fox to discredit the WW character on that alone is just plain foolhearty. She is in essence the female antithesis of Superman. Respectable actors from over the globe that have any hope of playing him would be champing at the bit for a chance if they new the character was getting respectable treatment. The same attitude should be equal for Wonder Woman. But the likes of Jessica Biel and Fox laugh it off as childish or absurd.

I just don't get that.

I don't wish her to play characters that die in all the films she's in. That is too laughable. I think poetic justice would be being type-casted as whore or fluzzie for the next ten years would be idealic. Perhaps by then, she will have been properly forged in the fire and be ready for a role like WW.
KeepItReal
KeepItReal - 5/3/2009, 10:14 PM
"I think poetic justice would be being type-casted as whore or fluzzie for the next ten years.."

Yes! Let that be the Hex!!Poetic Justice indeed! Only I dont think she'll "get it". Someone will have to point out the irony to her!
Merinator
Merinator - 5/5/2009, 4:02 PM
Uff, "lame". That is too much. Mrs. Fox hasn't read much of Wonder Woman. I thought she (WW) was a peace ambassador and a diplomatic. Can any better purpose be possible? She has a power leveled with Superman, that is something worth to consider. She may not be as smart and intelligent as Batman, but she still has Athena's wisdom, so she is not a stupid girl, although we could discuss if that wisdom comes from her work or it doesn't have so much worth because it is a god's gift. How can a character who reunites these qualities be lame?

Anyway, she has fallen into the stereotype. Of course she can have an opinion, but an opinion (to me) is valid only when it comes from knowledge. I'd like to hear her reasons to say that statement, and discuss them too. However, I fear she doesn't have any, or that she is forced to say it because she has to maintain that cocky appearence of hers, just like Miley Cyrus in "El Hormiguero".

And personnally, why is an imperfect character better (or more interesting) than a "marysue" character? Is it because they are too predictable? I am sure there are ways to fix that problem. With a good script all is solved.

The invisible jet can be on comics and there is no problem with that, but I wouldn't portray it on film. The lansarinian technology is simply too much stuff for a film.

Does anyone know if the invisible jet origin is the same in both pre-crisis and post-crisis stories? I have only read the comics from 1987 to present.

Finally, how can Wonder Woman be lame? Everybody loves her!

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Merinator
Merinator - 5/6/2009, 3:06 PM
Wait a moment: if "...Director Joss Whedon is rumored to be putting together a cast for an upcoming big screen outing for the superhero Amazon. ...", does it mean that this is an old new or has Joss Whedon returned to the Wonder Woman project?
kanezona67
kanezona67 - 5/10/2009, 11:58 PM
If that is true what Megan Fox said about Wonder Woman, then thank HERA she's too short to play her anyway!
kanezona67
kanezona67 - 5/11/2009, 12:01 AM
And secondly, in response to Merinator's comment about WW's invisible jet being featured in the film version. If done properly, I believe it could be pretty stunning, particularly if they go with the whole Lansarian technology piece, which would add another thread to the storyline.
KeepItReal
KeepItReal - 5/11/2009, 4:04 PM
Mer: "Finally, how can Wonder Woman be lame? Everybody loves her!" I KNOW! Right?! IS Joss Whedon back on the project? It would be cool!

Kane Zona: Thank Hera !!

I agree with you in regards with the invisible jet. Ive said before it could be done. IMO. Her invisible jet I feel has potential & can be done correctly if done with patience and taken seriously. Batman has all these gadgets at his disposal & they make it look good. Why not for Wonder Woman? And his gadgets dont compare to the advance technology that she has in her hands from the Lansanarians. I think as clever and keen Hollywood has gotten in the special effects department- they cant make that work? Update it... streamline it? common! They could make it look more stealth. It's not so much that it's invisible to me about her vehicles but that it's a technology so advanced from aliens that no one on Earth, not even Batman, has it but Wonder Woman. How elite does that make her? This technology she has can morph into ANYTHING she wishes and it will be state of the art. Whether she is out in space, underwater, flying etc..etc... Now if this is something Superman or Batman had Hollywood wouldnt waste anytime making it great. So make it great for Wonder Woman. I am not saying when they make the movie she should have all these super vehicles straight out but bring them out gradually, one here, another in a sequel...Explain how after gaining the Lansanarians technology Diana learned that it was part of an extraterrestrial artifact called The Ring..

There is so much more to Wonder Woman...how could she not be great?! I feel sorry for Megan Fox that she cant see how GREAT Wonder Woman really is, hooker! sorry, it slipped out!
Phinehas
Phinehas - 5/11/2009, 7:57 PM
Probably for only ten years or so...

Being slutty hookers that is...
I really don't wish Fox ill will. I don't. Her words are just indicative of the lack of class in people today. They seem more immature in their early 20s that ever. I don't recall being that foolish about things I knew little about. Speaking about things I didn't understand. Now, I admit, in my youth I made rash judgements and even misspoke out of turn as she did. But I certainly wouldn't have shared my uninformed opinion on the world stage to be scrutinized by everyone. Nope! I know I was too smart for that. In fact, I would say, it is common sense.
Merinator
Merinator - 5/12/2009, 3:06 AM
Yes, lansarian technology may be more advanced, but if the film tells the origin of Wonder Woman, the invisible plane has no room there, I think it wasn't until issue #115 more or less when it appeared; at least in post-Crisis.

Gadgets for Wonder Woman? she isn't a spy, and she has powers, so she does not need them. Moreover, Batman has more gadgets; though they may not be as advanced as Wonder Woman's, they are more practical, and he makes better use of them. He's smarter, after all :)
KeepItReal
KeepItReal - 5/12/2009, 8:45 AM
I'm sorry.. what makes Batman smarter? I havent seen evidence of it where he has bested Wonder Woman. HE goes to HER to learn MMA technics and styles of the Amazons and sparrs with HER like Superman does since no one else is a match for them.

No, Wonder Woman is not a spy and no she doesnt need "gadgets" because she has powers. However, I wasnt suggesting she have them to be a spy. If you read in the comics she would use her invisible jet to transport others in the group she was with if they could not fly. Whether it be a jet, submarine etc..etc.. Batman has practical uses but I would say if she traveled with others, who can't fly, a jet would be practicle too instead of getting on American Airlines or Delta to go to South America or something. Wonder Woman cannot breath underwater so having a submarine at her command is both practicle and smart. She is independent and doesnt need help from anyone to do what she gotta do. Nothing to do with being a spy or having "gadgets" to make her "look" smart because she is smart.

The technology also extends too in outer space if she is orbiting earth and is running out of air it will recyle what she has so she can survive. I say that is smart AND practicle. How would Batman "make better use of them" ? Your sugestion that Batman is better and "smarter" doesnt seem well founded, IMO.

"I am not saying when they make the movie she should have all these super vehicles straight out but bring them out gradually, one here, another in a sequel..."

I dont think I suggested that they bring out theses advantages in the origins. I will apologize if I made you think so. But I did say gradually more spread out like one here, one there, in a sequel. ;)
Merinator
Merinator - 5/12/2009, 3:42 PM
Jeje, ya sabía que lo de Batman iba a traer polémica. I say that Batman is smarter not as unanswarable truth, neither as a fact, but as an observations list. Ussually, he was the brain behind the justice league, and that implies great knowledge of their foes, strategy to outmatch them (and powerful foes indeed)... That doesn't mean he is the only one who thinks: for example, in JLA #50, when he was voted out of the league (the Tower of Babel story arc)by Wonder Woman, Plastic Man, Aquaman and Superman, it happens that the last plan to beat Dr. Destiny was Wonder Woman's idea, and later Batman recognizes it was a good plan, but also notes down its weak points: I can see there a valious quality: he doesn't fool himself, he doesn't think that his plan is the best only because it's his plan. Also, he had a contingency plan for every JL member in case they went rogue: Ra's Al Ghul stole that plans and used them, that was the expulsion reason. But the fact is that Superman asked him to return.

Besides, he is the world's greatest detective, Superman said he was the most dangereous man of Earth... usually that comes from a smart and brilliant mind.

Those are my arguments to say that Batman is smart. But we were discusing why (or not) is smarter than Wonder Woman. I have two "reasons" (it goes between quotation marks because I'm sure there are counterexamples, so they are not infallible):

1- It is easier to catch Wonder Woman off guard than Batman. I see that Wonder Woman is wise, she is is a warrior born, but she lives in the moment. Batman is five steps ahead anyone, he has learned to be a strategist. Even when he is captured, he has a plan. To me, strategy is the mind's greatest challenge. Wonder Woman not always, but at this moment I don't recall every situation we are speaking about and I can be wrong.

2-I have seen at least once that Wonder Woman doubts of her existence, in other words if she's "real", because she was made instead of borned. Doesn't the same thought go to her wisdom? It was Athena's gift, and Batman learned everything by himself. I have met people who think that knowledge and experience is more valuable if it is learned than if it is given. In addition, let's say that Wonder Woman wisdom outmatches Batman's. Moreover, let's say she has infinite wisdom. But to be smart there are many areas of intelligence, and each one rests on the others. So, even if Batman's mind had lesser mind average level, his standard deviation is much bigger, which means his knowledge "areas" work better between them, because they are not concentrated, and so obtaining better performance.

On the other side, how can Batman compete with alien technology? That is indeed an unanswerable truth, it is more advanced than anything Batman can create. I only say that if Batman had it, he would do much more incredible things. Test tubes for example, there you can experiment thousands of chemical reactions, but with the jet you can only transport people. Batman has also submarines, planes and more paraphernalia, but they can't be concentrated as the invisible plane, it is a drawback and I admit it. Omac was Batman's design, and he was he who defeated him. And flying with American Airlines is not that bad, I hope :) Now that I remember, Wonder Woman took a commercial flight once when she went to Greece and firt met Circe after Crisis on infinite Earths.

Other observation: when batman doesn't know something, he knows who knows it, and he has his telephone number. Practical knowledge indeed LOL.

Those are my observations, but I am no philosopher, neither a logic master, and if anyone can refute them I will be happy to discuss it. But always friendly, I don't want to offend anyone.

Finally, but not less important, an authority argument: Yahoo says it:)

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P.S:Ups, forget about that, it is who would win in a fight, not who is smarter.
KeepItReal
KeepItReal - 5/12/2009, 11:31 PM
Jeje! Chico, tranquilo que aqui no tenemos problemas. Bendito, somos amigos teniendo una conversacion con gusto!

I got you, I got you. LOL... So what you mean to say is that Batman is more cerebral than Wonder Woman in that he is more of a strategist, a chess player. He can decompartmentalise? The "brain" of Trinity. And Wonder Woman just wings it? Fly by your seat kinda gal? hmmmm... interesting.. I hear you. Maybe.

1.) I cant recall every episode either nor the # but you mention that Wonder Woman is caught easier than Batman and for that he is smarter? Or is that he is more alert, more cynical and jaded than Wonder Woman? He trusts no one, not even another memeber of the JLA! Basically he is paranoid, that's why he doesnt get caught as easily. Remember she is the ambassador of peace and goodwill and so thinks differently because she is light and he is darkness. Ella es mas sana pero no tonta. She is good and believes the good in man and so maybe it makes her more naive but certainly nobody's fool. Batman is longer at the game than she is and so less trusting, a pessimist. He just waits for the bad that he knows is coming. Wonder Woman does get caught but then... so does Batman.

2.) Everyone doubts themselves. Even Batman. Isnt that why he was hesitant in taking Robin under his wing? Didnt he doubt himself when he felt himself have feelings with Selena? Isnt he torn with wanting to stop being Batman but cant. Does that also take into account that he is questioning his intelligence too?

Wonder Woman may have questioned herself because she was made and not born, but because Athena gifted her with wisdom it didnt mean she was molded knowing everything. She wasnt given a cpu and a micro chip in place of a brain. She doesnt have AI. She had to learn everything herself too. What she did with that knowledge and how she applied it is where the wisdom kicks in. Batman got a headstart but she'll catch up.

You use the word "deviation". One of the definitions of it is: "noticeable or marked departure from accepted norms of behavior".. Batman is considered to be like the JOker. He is a sociopath. He has darker tendencies. People who are considered to be psychopaths or sociopaths generally suffer from antisocial personality disorder. This is a psychiatric condition characterized by chronic behavior that manipulates, exploits or violates the rights of others. This behavior is often criminal. Wonder WOman doesnt have criminal tendencies or suffers from any kind of disorders. Batman can decompartmentalise better ok. Will it give him better performance, perhaps. But then he was given this "gift" when the Joker murdered his family in front of him because that is when it all began, when his mind broke. Would he be so controlled and strategic if all that didnt happen? It was a chain of event. The Joker made him what he is. The only thing stopping him from being one of the criminals himself is revenge to get the Joker & criminals like him from hurting someone else.

His darkness is his area of expertise. His being able to think like a villian in order to catch one.
Wonder Woman may use different tactics but she gets the villian too.

"Other observation: when batman doesn't know something, he knows who knows it, and he has his telephone number. Practical knowledge indeed LOL."

Batman assaults individuals in his pursuit of information related to criminal activities. He uses his body and weapons to subdue or incapacitate his targets. Wonder WOman uses her golden lasso and doesnt leave evidence of an "interrogation". Fast, clean and effective. Or as you would say practicle.

You believe that Batman would do greater things with the lansarian technology than WOnder WOman has or could do? Transporting was only an example of what good and practicle uses she has it for. It is implied by her wisdom that if the occasion called for it Wonder Woman could also do experiments if she so wished it. The thing is Wonder Woman can do anything. And The Ring will do it too- morphs into anything she wishes. But it is irrelavant and only speculation on our part about that because depending on who writes the next script or comic would we be able to know WHO (Wonder Woman!) would get more use out of it.

I see where you say he may be smarter... his strong points. Different areas or levels of intelligence. But I see where his greatest assest proved to be his undoing- explusion from the JLA. In some ways he may be very intelligent indeed. The worlds greatest detective. But Wonder Woman is very smart too. Just does things differently. It doesnt make one more right than the other or smarter. Different styles, different technics, different way of doing things what it all comes down to.

"But always friendly, I don't want to offend anyone."

ALWAYS =:) I want to have fun with this and never offend either.

oh well if yahoo said it....NOT! lol..

"Ups, forget about that, it is who would win in a fight"

Did you not notice my avatar? Wonder Womans foot on Batmans head? It is from Wonder WOman: The Hiketeia.
And Batman was also hurled from a second story balcony by Wonder Woman's punch! Just to give you an idea. lol.
Merinator
Merinator - 5/13/2009, 2:48 AM
Yes, I have read Hiketeia too, and honestly, I didn't see Batman there. In that comic he was so obsessed to catch the criminal that he didn't think for a moment the strategy or the method. Everything what makes Batman... Batman wasn't there, apart of the obsession. On the other side, Wonder Woman is not invulnerable, we know there are ways to neutralize her without killing her.

And himself pledging hiketeia to wonder woman... I flew into rage when I saw it: where has gone his pride? It is a perfect example of what I call :"main character power", it means the main character always surpases anyone. In his series, Batman fights Superman and wins, even without Kryptonite; but he goes to the squirrel girl series and loses without any doubt, although everybody knows he's better.

In Hiketeia all could have been solved if Wonder Woman explained to Batman: "if you take the girl, then there will come three mad and ugly witches and kill me" and with that drop of information Batman thinks a new and better plan. Then Batman forces the girl to release Wonder Woman and in exchange, they take her to a minimun security prison. Simple and effective, but happy people don't have a story (Fyodor Dostoyevsky), and without story there can't be a comic.

He who killed Batman's parents was Joe Chill, a common burglar. I don't know why Tim Burton featured Joker as the assasin when he did the film, I was wrong many years until I read the first Batman comic. That was the critical point, the trigger who made Batman, but the potential was there. He has doubts as any other, but I have never see him doubting of his mind or his knowledge. If he has chosen the right path, the right course of action, if there isn't a better plan yes, if what he sees is real and not an illusion yes, but not his mind: it is the only thing you can't doubt, thanks to Descartes.

When I say "deviation", i reffer to "standard deviation" as a whole concept, not separate. It is a measure to express how far data is to the average level in statistics. But you have a point: Batman is a bit mad... and we like him that way! :) He is cautious but not paranoid. A man has to hope for the best in others, but also be prepared for the worst, just in case. Also between cautious and paranoid there is little room, but I don't see him as Trepid in The mighty Magnor, who says: "it is irrefutable that the whle universe conspires against me, and conspirators mantain theis plans undercover. By now, I haven't discovereded any, it's a substantial evidence of its existence!"

I don't know for sure if Batman has invented all his gadgets, but if he has, then he has an edge in the discussion.

Anyway, I like Wonder Woman and the amzons as peace ambassadors, each one has a part: Batman is the boogeyman (hombre del saco, I don't know if it is correctly written) and they are the shiny happy people who teach you some manners but can give you a good hiding. At least in comics, in the animated series the amazons were a bit... you-know-what.
davidcub
davidcub - 5/14/2009, 6:23 PM
Good! We didn't want "Wonder Whore" anyway!
KeepItReal
KeepItReal - 5/14/2009, 9:02 PM
Davidcub: "Good! We didn't want "Wonder Whore" anyway!" Oh! You mean Megan Fox! Man, Im sorry. At first I thought you meant Wonder Woman! My bad... yeah, who needs her!! =:)

Merinator: Disculpa pero estoy ocupada con mucho trabajo!

"..in the animated series the amazons were a bit... you-know-what." What? what are you saying?!

"Wonder Woman is not invulnerable, we know there are ways to neutralize her without killing her."

But we have always known how she would be at her most vulnerable. However, I agree with you on the part about the 3 fates. I think they wanted to add to the lore of the Greek myths. It's how I took it.

I agree with you on what you say on:"main character power" it bugs me too and you gave perfect examples of that. But I think it comes down (like I said earlier) on WHO is writing the story. like say you, Batman would be "THE MAN" lol... am I right? and if I wrote Wonder Woman she would be The ONE, THE ONLY INFINITEly. lol.. What could you do? Grin and bear it I guess.

I thought Joe Chill or whatever his name later became the Joker.. I got that from somewhere I think.. But I wasnt saying Batman questioned his intelligence only trying to prove a point when you said: "...doubts of her existence, in other words if she's "real", because she was made instead of borned. Doesn't the same thought go to her wisdom?". The same would not go because like I said earlier even though she was given the git of Wisdom she said had to gain the knowledge on her own same way Batman did. IMO one has nothing to do with the other.

"I don't know for sure if Batman has invented all his gadgets, but if he has, then he has an edge in the discussion."

Batman has money and paid for the technology that he has. He did not necessarily come up with the idea but certainly incorporated it into his lifestyle of vigilanti. Wayne co. is where he conveniently oversees the inventions and ideas and since he pays them he has the rights to them. So no, he doesnt have the edge, he recognizes the potential use of these inventions but he did not THINK of them himself (maybe some but not all). Still, cant beat the lansarians technology no matter how much he pays for his gadgets.

He does doubts his mind. He is conflicted between fighting crime and having a "normal" life. He confessed as much I think was to Selena when he says they can be together. He is torn if not he wouldnt try to discourage RObin from joining him. Its something else he worries about.
Merinator
Merinator - 5/15/2009, 4:46 AM
The amazons in the animated series (Justice League) were... "más secas que un bocata de polvorones". I don't think there is a translation, but it is more or less the opposite of "lovely". I believe they were robots disguised as amazons :) And also they were very isolasionist, when they were created to guide humanity in the way of peace and all that. They could be a bit as Space Marines but not so violent.

The main character power... As long as humans write, there will be preferences, it is unavoidable. Even in Matt Wagner's Trinity, although it is dedicated to the three of them, in the first issue there is some Superman's character predominance. Batman's in the second and Wonder Woman in the third one. But it was a good history in the end, and although Batman was all the brain along the three issues,Wonder Woman managed to track the batcave and Superman had the idea of the receiver-transmitter to locate Bizarro. This way it was showed none of them were unintelligent, that's not bad.

And honestly, Batman's stories I like more are those were Robin does not appear.
Scorpioxfactor
Scorpioxfactor - 5/17/2009, 4:47 PM
After I read the Meghan Fox interview in Maxim Or FHm or whatever magazine it was and she said "I don't flush the toilet after taking a dump and my boyfriend is okay with it" I lost all respect for her.
KeepItReal
KeepItReal - 5/19/2009, 8:59 AM
"más secas que un bocata de polvorones" are you trying to say: drier than a mouthful of powder? (que quieres decir bocata?) lol... dude that is harsh! robots... heehee... I havent seen them on JL so I dont know.

After 1000 years, the gods influence over humanity began to die so they created the Amazons to lead mankind in the ways of virtue and keep the gods forever in the people's hearts. They were created by the gods of Mount Olympus to bring glory to Gaea, the Mother Earth.They were dedicated to peace on the city-state of Themyscira. They became immortal and regained the purity of spirit robbed of them by Heracles. They lived on a secret island barred from mortal man (thank Hercules for that) as they guarded Dooms Doorway. They were also charged with guarding the evils of Pandoras box. They were isolasionist for good reasons.

Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman were Trinity. The top of the council, in charge. To get to that point on some level or degree they all had to be intelligent and showed they were capable of leading.
soup3161
soup3161 - 5/20/2009, 2:41 PM
I think she needs a nice hard dich. I'll be the one to give it to her.
Merinator
Merinator - 5/20/2009, 2:51 PM
"Polvorón" is a typical sweet dessert in Christmas, and they are very dry because they have no water, cream or anything similar. "Bocata" is the colloquial word for "bocadillo" (sandwich), and we say someone is "seco" (dry)when he is not rude, but very unfriendly, don't want to speak to other people and so on. Now imagine what would be drier than a polvorón sandwich speaking of someone, I think unlovely is more or less a traduction, but there a lot of meaning lost in the process.

At any moment I have said that Wonder Woman was unintelligent, I only said that Batman was even smarter. I mention, as a reference, Wonder Woman v2#141.

I think that the amazons should be more or less as the Space Marines, once they cease to be isolationist. In their creation, these were te Emperor words:

"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can beat them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines ...

... and they shall know no fear."

Which is very similar to the amazons creation, and their music theme is simply perfect. I would love if the composer was chosen to write Wonder Woman's soundtrack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG42F-5AVOE
KeepItReal
KeepItReal - 5/20/2009, 3:40 PM
"They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them..."

I have never heard of SPace Marines but that paragraph there makes me want to! NIIIICE! Dude, where have I been? I've seen them mentioned here before pero no le puse atencion. I will check them out on youtube when I get the chance today! for sure!! Very nice. Thanks for the 411! =:)

De que parte de Espana eres? Traduce muy mal aquel "polvoron" jeje... La parte de "seco" nosotros los usamos tambien. soy nacida y criada aqui en los estados unidos, pues mi espanol no es muy bueno que digamos. Mi familia son de Puerto Rico.
Merinator
Merinator - 5/20/2009, 4:35 PM
I'm from Castilla y León, it is located north from Madrid, but polvorones can be found anywhere in Spain, though they are unknown outside, mistranslation is no mistake. :)

Space Marines appear in the tabletop game Warhammer 40,000 where they are an army and main characters. Some time ago, they have appeared in a videogame series, which is Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War. They are a kind of super-soldiers, ascetic warriors who devote to the destruction of Humanity's enemies and are devoted to the God-Emperor (although they are very, very, very fundamentalist and fanatic). They are extensively recognized as the most heroic characters in the game, to me too.

I saw the analogy in the paragraph, when the Emperor says "like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them...They are my bulwark against the Terror.They are the Defenders of Humanity..." just as the amazons, but with less violence and anger: they should teach peace, not kill enemies.

And other Space Marine quote:

"The uniforms of the Imperial Guard are camouflaged in order to protect their wearers by hiding them from sight. The principle is that what the enemy cannot see he cannot kill. This is not the way of the Adeptus Astartes. A Space Marine’s armour is bright with heraldry that proclaims his devotion to his Chapter and the beloved Emperor of Mankind. Our principle is that what the enemy can see, he will soon learn to fear."
- Chaplain Aston, 10th Company, Fire Hawks chapter

...which can be used (a bit changed, of course) to explain why Wonder Woman's armour is soooo bright; although I would like to see Diana Trevor on the film.
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