AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY - Rumored Details On Robert Downey Jr.'s Doom And His Plans Revealed; Possible SPOILERS

AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY - Rumored Details On Robert Downey Jr.'s Doom And His Plans Revealed; Possible SPOILERS

We're still not sure if Robert Downey Jr. is playing a Tony Stark variant or the Doctor Doom, but a new rumor claims to reveal the character's plan in Avengers: Doomsday...

By MarkCassidy - Aug 02, 2024 12:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Doomsday

In one of the most surprising - not to mention divisive - Comic-Con announcements yet, we learned that Robert Downey Jr. would be returning to the Marvel Cinematic Universe as Doctor Doom during Marvel Studios' Hall H presentation this past Saturday.

Recent rumors had claimed that RDJ would be playing an evil Variant of Tony Stark, but the actor was introduced as "Victor Von Doom," which obviously suggests that he's been cast as an entirely new character.

We're still no closer to finding out for sure, but scooper MTTSH believes she's uncovered some details relating to Doom's plans for the Multiverse.

Possible spoilers ahead.

"Doom isn’t truly evil; he believes he’s saving the Multiverse from incursions. According to his twisted logic, the only way for the Multiverse to survive is to unify all universes in one place (Battleworld) under his rule. He sees this as the sole path to ensuring survival for everyone."

If accurate, it sounds like Downey will be playing Doom as a sympathetic villain (which he has been depicted as in the comics), and his arc will be at least partially influenced by the 2015 Secret Wars miniseries.

MTTSH has also shared a list of characters she expects to feature in Avengers: Doomsday (it's basically every active MCU hero aside from the Eternals, so... not exactly an Earth-shattering scoop).

Avengers: Doomsday arrives in theaters on May 1, 2026, followed by Avengers: Secret Wars on May 7, 2027. Both films will be directed by the Russo brothers, who also make their MCU return after helming Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Captain America: Civil War, Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame.

"Being able to create stories and explore characters within the Marvel Universe fulfilled a life-long dream of ours, and we discovered a powerful connection with audiences in each film that we made. We’re thrilled to collaborate once again with Kevin, Lou and the entire Marvel team to bring this epic adventure in storytelling to new and surprising places for both the fans and ourselves”, said The Russos in a statement after the SDCC panel.

Have another look at some photos Downey Jr. shared to Instagram after the big reveal below.

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WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 8/2/2024, 12:32 PM
I get it. Same reasoning as AoU and never realized when Thanos came
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 8/2/2024, 12:35 PM
Josh told me one to my ear after a few bottles this marvel biggest mistep ever .even more than Quantunmania then he lean over the bar and
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 8/2/2024, 1:13 PM
@Malatrova15 - ...and?

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ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 8/2/2024, 1:14 PM
@Malatrova15 -
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Deadinside
Deadinside - 8/2/2024, 2:14 PM
@ObserverIO -
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@Malatrova15 -

Let's just say there was an "incursion"...! ☮️😜
Fogs
Fogs - 8/2/2024, 12:37 PM
Avoid incursion by basically creating an incursion. Ok.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 8/2/2024, 1:21 PM
@Fogs - a new universe.

Like He Who Remains creating the Sacred Timeline to save reality.
In the comics, Doom creates Battleworld out of the remnants of the multiverse just before the complete end of all existence. He knew that there was no saving the multiverse, which was at that time down to it's last two universes (Earth 616 and 1610). He knew that neither universe would survive, so instead of working on saving one of them he worked on saving everything with the ultimate contingency of creating a new world using the power of the Beyonders out of the energies that remained, while he still could.
MatteMan
MatteMan - 8/2/2024, 3:14 PM
@ObserverIO - I'm still not the biggest fan of RDJ comeback but it doesn't mean that I didn't think about it and right now for me there is one way this CAN work.
So, during Tony's snap he not only wish to eliminate Thanos Army but he was imagining world to have the Invincible Iron-Man, doing so he creates new Univers. This Univers is going to be the one where we meet fantastic 4 and the one where Monica went at the end of The Marvels. Incursion is coming, Dr Strange with Clea are trying to stop it but the only solution is to merge both Universes together creating Main Univers with Avengers, Fantastic 4 and X-Men.

Meanwhile Beyonder Creator of All(fan casting Keanu Reeves)is introduced. He created everything including Celestials. Seeing how fast the Multiverse is expanding he creates Most Powerful Celestial, Galactus to maintain the balance. After the merge of two Univers into one, Beyonder sends there Galactus to destroy it.

In Avengers: Doomsday everyone ( Avengers, Fantastic 4 and X-Men) team up to defeat Galactus but there is only one who can do it. His name is DOOM!
JonC
JonC - 8/2/2024, 4:05 PM
@ObserverIO - each Kang had his own 'sacred timeline' in their mind. Victor Timely simply is the one we heard about first. They all try to preserve their own existence, their own sacred timeline. Loki is giving them that chance, Timely never did. It was too much for him to manage... and it may ultimately be too much for Loki to manage except he's a god (small "g") and timely was just a man.
The1st
The1st - 8/2/2024, 4:09 PM
@Fogs - He thinks he alone can and should control it. Very machiavellian really. Doom, all great villains, believe they're right, sometimes in a way they are, but the methods...they feel the end justifies the means. They won't trust/believe in their peers.

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I hope they don't make the mistake of giving us Doom lite and lean into the character fully.

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ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 8/3/2024, 4:36 AM
@The1st - Yeah, like there was no real need for Doom to rule over this new world he created, but he's a megalomaniacal narcissist so of course he gives himself a throne. And I gotta wonder if the plan was to save reality and the throne was a bonus or the other way around.

I think they will lean into this side of the character. It's the kind of character that RDJ can do in his sleep. Tony Stark in the MCU was almost there. He wanted to put a suit of armor around the world, because he saw it's inevitable destruction by aliens in a vision. And even when his AI went rogue and the Avengers had to destroy Ultron he still didn't learn his lesson. He still thought he was right after Thanos attacked, at the beginning of Endgame, saying that freedom was less important than safety. As long as he's the one doing the saving and being in control of everyone's freedom.

Both Stark and Doom are narcissists, but Stark is at least trying to do the right thing and is less of an asshole. I think the key difference is that Starks arrogance comes off more as a confidence and he's pretty cool, but Doom doesn't care if you think he's cool, he knows he's better than you. As long as RDJ can determine the differences between Doom and Stark, I think we'll get a good performance.
Lisa89
Lisa89 - 8/2/2024, 12:38 PM
Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 8/2/2024, 1:14 PM
@Lisa89 -
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BeyondtheFuture
BeyondtheFuture - 8/2/2024, 12:40 PM
I don’t see Chris Evans on that list so nope not buying it.
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 8/2/2024, 12:42 PM
'CAPRAIN Marvel' eh?

I knew they'd throw-in a curve ball.
Fogs
Fogs - 8/2/2024, 2:19 PM
@BillyBatson1000 - CRAPtain Marvel
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 8/2/2024, 4:21 PM
@Fogs - Can't argue. Totally squandered opportunity.
braunermegda
braunermegda - 8/2/2024, 12:43 PM
That cast list only would cost Disney 100+ million or even more. That ain't happening.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 8/2/2024, 2:09 PM
@braunermegda - RDJ alone is supposed to be costing upto 100M (50M min and upto double with bonus from BO)
braunermegda
braunermegda - 8/2/2024, 2:41 PM
@Apophis71 - Right? there's no way all those characters are appearing, especially because they are A list now (mostly thanks to their marvel movies) so it would be impracticable to gather all of them with high salaries. And there's the plus for schedules. MTTSH full of bulshit, but then that's not news.
gaybatman
gaybatman - 8/2/2024, 12:43 PM
Does an Ironman variant inevitably sacrifice himself to save the day and defeat an anti-stark Doom?
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/2/2024, 12:47 PM
Honestly , I think it’s too early for plans to to be set for their take on Doom but if so then this seems likely imo which hence makes it seem like an educated guess…

It feels very befitting for the character that he believes he’s a savior and the only right one to rule imo (and plus casting RDJ as an AU Doom creates some nice symmetry of his Tony saving the universe while Doom tries to destroy the multiverse to remake it in his own image as one).

Also regardless if one feels about the casting , the pop RDJ got was insane and the reveal at SDCC was well done!!.

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MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 8/2/2024, 12:53 PM
You ask me, people on both sides of the conversation are completely valid in their opinion. Is it creatively bankrupt or desperate? Maybe, but bringing back RDJ as a villain was the only satisfying way to get out of the Kang sized hole. You can't just bring in someone new at the last minute like the Beyonder or Maker.
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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/2/2024, 12:54 PM
@MCUKnight11 - yeah , I can see both sides of it to an extent

I’m just waiting and seeing for now
bobevanz
bobevanz - 8/2/2024, 2:35 PM
@MCUKnight11 - oh gee idk maybe you could maybe pick someone other than RDJ for Doom lol. This is the only way it would work, otherwise it was a softball toss to plug the Marvel dam. It's the Demon in an Armor storyline
ANewPope
ANewPope - 8/2/2024, 12:55 PM
Why do you guys keep covering MTTSH if you know she's not reliable?
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 8/2/2024, 12:58 PM
@ANewPope - Because she has broken some major news in the past... though I admit, she's been wrong more than she's been right recently.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 8/2/2024, 2:36 PM
@MarkCassidy - I demand you start covering what I say because I have a better track record lol
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 8/2/2024, 1:02 PM
I feel like that cast list is an educated wish
emeraldtaurus
emeraldtaurus - 8/2/2024, 1:04 PM
If there isn't some crazy clever twist which ends with the movie revealing the real Dr Doom (Cillian Murphy or someone else that fits the bill) I'll be very disappointed !
6of13
6of13 - 8/2/2024, 1:17 PM
I am tired of the sympathetic villains. I want to see a villain who is someone truly hateable.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/2/2024, 1:23 PM
@6of13 - have you seen Deadpool & Wolverine?

You might be happy with Cassandra Nova then
SpiderParker14
SpiderParker14 - 8/2/2024, 1:28 PM
@6of13 - Couldn’t agree more. Is it that hard to have a Doctor Doom that’s an irredeemable bastard?
6of13
6of13 - 8/2/2024, 1:34 PM
@TheVisionary25 - No, I have not seen it yet, I'm hoping to go next week.
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 8/2/2024, 1:38 PM
@6of13 - Draykov in Black Widow.

Literally nothing redeemable or sympathetic about that villain, he knows and owns it, and the movie doesn't pretend otherwise.
Matador
Matador - 8/2/2024, 1:18 PM
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GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 8/2/2024, 2:19 PM
@Matador -
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Matador
Matador - 8/5/2024, 9:31 AM
@GeneralZod -

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