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DCasAhobby
DCasAhobby - 9/12/2022, 6:43 AM
Can't wait!! 🔥🔥🔥
lvcl
lvcl - 9/12/2022, 8:51 AM
@DCasAhobby -
Thunderbolts' line-up has no frontline or interesting character.

After seeing the crap of Eternals and Thor 4, and the poor quality of the TV series, I think the time has come to throw in the damn towel until Kang Dynasty or Secret Wars
DCasAhobby
DCasAhobby - 9/12/2022, 11:47 AM
@lvcl - neat opinion
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 9/12/2022, 9:58 PM
@lvcl - I said this before. The MCU will consist of micro teams going forward. The Thunderbolts (Anti-Hero government taskforce), Young Avengers (Young Avenger fanatics who team up to fill the void left by the Avengers), Midnight Sons (Wong's Supernatural warriors who combat spiritual and mystical threats), The Defenders (Street Level heroes battling Fisk and his corruption).
marvel72
marvel72 - 9/12/2022, 6:53 AM
So they broke up like The Beatles.
Origame
Origame - 9/12/2022, 7:56 AM
@marvel72 - half of them died and one of them retired. Not to mention Thor went to space. So the avengers would literally just be hulk now.

Why wasn't this obvious?
Vigor
Vigor - 9/12/2022, 8:02 AM
@Origame - he's quoting a line from infinity war
inkniron
inkniron - 9/12/2022, 8:17 AM
@Origame - Not to mention the hulk is unreachable, Wanda’s gone off the deep end, Strange has his own drama and Spider-Man‘s persona non grata. I thought it was pretty obvious
Origame
Origame - 9/12/2022, 8:18 AM
@Vigor - ...so?
Origame
Origame - 9/12/2022, 8:22 AM
@inkniron - hell, strange wasn't even formally an avenger (unless they were going by defenders logic where if you helped the team you're a member).

But on top of that stark industries is struggling with the legal issues from financing spiderman's mishaps as seen in no way home, so they aren't gonna fund a hypothetical new team.
Vigor
Vigor - 9/12/2022, 9:16 AM
@Origame - he's making a joke. I know sense of humor is foreign to you
Origame
Origame - 9/12/2022, 9:24 AM
@Vigor - ...what do I have to openly laugh at it in text? It's called trying to have a conversation. I know that might be a foreign concept for you, but a joke can be followed by talking.
Vigor
Vigor - 9/12/2022, 9:26 AM
@Origame - your response to marvel72 was as if you took him seriously. As noted by your comment "why wasn't this obvious?"
Origame
Origame - 9/12/2022, 9:28 AM
@Vigor - no, I was actually agreeing with him, because I knew he was joking. I'm basically saying, "but seriously, why wasn't this obvious?"
Vigor
Vigor - 9/12/2022, 9:30 AM
@Origame - gotcha! My bad
Origame
Origame - 9/12/2022, 9:31 AM
@Vigor - no problem.
ComicBandit
ComicBandit - 9/13/2022, 10:42 PM
@Origame - Maybe because they keep contradicting themselves by implying things like the Avengers rejected She-Hulk. :)
ComicBandit
ComicBandit - 9/13/2022, 10:44 PM
@Origame - Spiderman technically never had any dealings with Stark or the Avengers since that was all erased.
Origame
Origame - 9/14/2022, 4:21 AM
@ComicBandit - he actually did. The spell just made people forget specifically Peter Parker. Happy highlights the extent of this, pointing out he remembers working with Spiderman and that's the reason may died. He just didn't know about Peter Parker.
ComicBandit
ComicBandit - 10/6/2022, 12:21 PM
@Origame - Ah Okay. Right you are. :)
BritishMonkey
BritishMonkey - 9/12/2022, 7:01 AM
It is funny how this Thunderbolts is 3 super soldiers, 2 black widows and a ghost.
Really needs Zemo and Abomination to break up the monotony.
DalekCraigWasson
DalekCraigWasson - 9/12/2022, 7:34 AM
@BritishMonkey - Yeah, someone like Abomination or Red Hulk would have been visually different, although Zemo may be too evil for this line-up which seems more anti-hero-ish.

It really is super bland and too easily overlapped though. Not only do you have three super soldiers and two black widows (three if you include RG), but you have two masked badasses wearing hoods. Ghost aside, everyone is just a cast member from Black Widow or FatWS, which makes it feel less like an MCU spanning project and more like a direct sequel to those two.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 9/12/2022, 8:11 AM
@BritishMonkey - I think the lineup is very deliberate and will play into the plot.
BritishMonkey
BritishMonkey - 9/12/2022, 10:54 AM
@DalekCraigWasson - I kinda don't mind it like that, hearing you put it that way. Cap and Widow stuff have always been close and similar, since Winter Soldier it seems, so it matches.
I figure if they have Zemo be the main villain that would work very well.
BritishMonkey
BritishMonkey - 9/12/2022, 10:54 AM
@thewanderer - I agree. Be interesting to see how it plays out.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 9/12/2022, 11:03 AM
@BritishMonkey - my hunch, or maybe want. Is that In New World Order, The Leader and Zemo are working together to form a Masters of Evil.

Something happens in the movie that leads the government to lose faith in Sam and the ideal of the Avengers, so the Government forms the Thunderbolts as their own government controlled Avengers team.


I totally expect both movies to be tied together.
WarMonkey
WarMonkey - 9/12/2022, 7:01 AM
I liked the Avengers. I don't like any of these new characters and the ones I did like before this Phase I no longer find interesting. MCU was fun when it was interesting and cool and I'll always be thankful for the movies we have now that existed before Endgame.
Kyos
Kyos - 9/12/2022, 8:10 AM
@WarMonkey - I too liked the Avengers. I like most of the new characters as well, and the only returning character I now like less is Strange. The MCU is still pretty cool. 🙂
WarMonkey
WarMonkey - 9/12/2022, 8:29 AM
@Kyos - If they have competent writers they could turn Ghost played by Hannah (forget how to spell her last name) into a major player in the MCU and a star. She has the acting talent and the action experience to play an amazing character. I doubt they will do this though or even could anymore. I would love to be proven wrong though and get some amazing new stories and characters!
Supercat6376
Supercat6376 - 9/12/2022, 7:06 AM
I can’t imagine that many people are interested in this.
Vigor
Vigor - 9/12/2022, 8:00 AM
@Supercat6376 - I've found that the feel between here and say the marvel reddit, vs. Ign comment sections, and io9.gizmodo.com sections to differ greatly when it comes to marvel sentiment. It's mostly negative here of the four I just mentioned. And that's a more recent thing. I used to see super intelligent discussions here but it's been over shadowed by negativity.

Maybe it's warranted idk. But it's worthwhile stating that none of the other sites display this same energy in the comments.

It's too soon after thunderbolts announcement to gauge overall interest but I'll def keep an eye out. I for one am most excited about thunderbolts ahead of any other movie or show announced. Weird right?
Supercat6376
Supercat6376 - 9/12/2022, 9:11 AM
@Vigor - I wouldn’t say weird lol. I just have no excitement for that lineup. I need to see more of them overtime to really care about them, excluding Bucky of course. I feel like marvel is pushing out all this material. Many of the characters aren’t as well known or have as big a following. They’re not letting them develope over time. I want to grow with all these new characters. If ghost dies is it really going to impact me ? I think they’re moving on from the original six way to quickly. They should be able to have one foot on what made them and the other on what’s going to keep them going.
Vigor
Vigor - 9/12/2022, 9:21 AM
@Supercat6376 - that's funny because I don't think they're moving on quick enough. Years go by between sequels (looking at capt marvel, Shang chi, as examples). And I feel we aren't getting enough time with them. They're literally going to age out of the roles. I think that's just the challenge going from comicbook page to big screen.
Spawnnn
Spawnnn - 9/12/2022, 7:12 AM
I think New World Order gonna bomb hard. Nobody cares for Mackie.
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