JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Star Lady Gaga On Her New Take On Harley Quinn: "I've Never Done Anything Like [This]"

JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Star Lady Gaga On Her New Take On Harley Quinn: "I've Never Done Anything Like [This]"

In a new interview, Joker: Folie à Deux star Lady Gaga discusses her new interpretation of Harley Quinn, making it clear that she'll be doing something different with the character...

By MarkCassidy - May 25, 2024 06:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Joker

The first trailer for Joker: Folie à Deux debuted during CinemaCon last month, giving us an intriguing glimpse of some footage from Todd Phillips' DC "Elseworlds" sequel.

In what would seem to be a major change to the usual character dynamic, the teaser revealed that Arthur Fleck (Joaquin Phoenix) meets Harley Quinn (Lady Gaga) as a fellow patient(?) in Arkham Asylum, and it looks like she'll be the one asserting influence over him.

While speaking to Access Hollywood, Gaga teased her new interpretation of the popular Batman villain, who has generally been portrayed as more of an anti-hero in recent years.

“You know, my version of Harley is mine and it’s very authentic to this movie and these characters,” said the Oscar and Grammy Award winner. “I’ve never done anything like I’ve done in this movie before, so it’s all going to be completely brand new and really fun.”

With these movies taking place outside the main DCU continuity, there's always a chance Margot Robbie will reprise her role as the version of Quinn we met in Suicide Squad, but the Barbie star did indicate that she'd "passed on" the role to Gaga in a 2022 interview.

“It makes me so happy because I said from the very beginning that all I want is for Harley Quinn to be one of those characters — the way Macbeth or Batman, always gets passed from great actor to great actor,” Robbie said. “Someone gets to do their Batman, or someone gets to do their Macbeth. It’s such an honor to have built a foundation strong enough that Harley can now be one of those characters that other actors get to have a go at playing. And I think [Gaga] will do something incredible with it.”

During the CinemaCon panel, Phillips downplayed the much-discussed musical elements somewhat.

"We never really talked about it like that, but I like to say it's a film where music is an essential element. To me, that doesn't veer too far from the first film. Arthur [Fleck]'s weird and aloof and all these things, but he has music in him. He has a grace to him. That informed a lot of the dancing in the first film. It didn't feel like that big of a step here. It's different, but I think it'll make sense when you see it."

Though not yet confirmed, it's believed that these song and dance sequences will actually be part of the shared delusions experienced by Joker and Harley (hence the title), which could explain why Phillips is hesitant to describe the film as a straight-up musical.

Whatever form the songs take, we have heard that the soundtrack will be "heavily inspired" by classic Liza Minnelli musicals such as Cabaret, New York, New York, and That's Entertainment.

We still don't know if Lady Gaga is actually writing the soundtrack, but we'd say there's a decent chance she'll pen at least one song for the movie.

In addition to Phoenix and Gaga, Joker 2 will see the return of Zazie Beetz as Sophie Dumond, along with new cast members Brendan Gleeson, Catherine Keener, Jacob Lofland and Harry Lawtey in undisclosed roles.

Joker: Folie à Deux is set to hit theaters on October 4, 2024. It's been rated R for, “some strong violence, language throughout, some sexuality, and brief full nudity.”

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micvalpro
micvalpro - 5/25/2024, 6:50 AM
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dragon316
dragon316 - 5/25/2024, 8:03 AM
@valmic - I know show was bad not Batman , robin, batgirl in costume could have at least had her look Harley Quinn with makeup on
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 5/25/2024, 1:46 PM
@valmic - That show was ahead of it's time, a precursor to the CW Arrowverse shows in a lot of ways.

Also it's Burtonverse canon and it's not as bad as Catwoman. So there's that.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 5/25/2024, 6:55 AM
I am so ready for this film. I have faith in Phillips, GaGa, and most of all Phoenix.

(Side note: If you've never watched Phoenix in "Beau is Afraid," do it. It is the most bat-sh1t, craziest film I've ever seen)
bobevanz
bobevanz - 5/25/2024, 10:43 AM
@lazlodaytona - it gets better on repeat viewings, I won't spoil anything but you probably get what I mean lol
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 5/26/2024, 9:04 AM
@bobevanz - yup!
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 5/25/2024, 7:03 AM
I'll wait for "The Ballad Of Dr Octopus" . Josh Gad will win an Oscar for sure, even without Spider-man in the movie. LFG
Batmangina
Batmangina - 5/25/2024, 7:09 AM
It looks fine. The first one was interesting.

Neither were compelling enough to get me to go to the theater though.

DP&W is about the only thing with enough pull to get me to a cinema at the moment - 4K 75" and Torrent Day make it just as good at home 99% of the time.
Fogs
Fogs - 5/25/2024, 7:24 AM
@Batmangina - Agreed. Also to me it's a cool film but I don't really care to re-watch it.
TCronson
TCronson - 5/25/2024, 7:26 AM
@Batmangina - I hope you're not one of those incredibly smart unaware Joes who constantly complain about bad Hollywood or blame marketing/studio every single time when something decent flops, but at the same time think that another generic multiverse cameo fest is the only thing worth supporting in a movie theater. Because I want to see someone who owns it for once and doesn't shift the blame for the sorry state of Hollywood.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 5/25/2024, 7:54 AM
@TCronson - TBH, I probably am one of those guys - I'm also a strong candidate for Old Guy Yells at Cloud

DP&W is indeed a (mostly) generic cameo fest but the R Rated aspect and the fact that Reynolds and Jackman have old school buddy cop chemistry and looked like they had a [frick]ing blast making it is almost enough to get me there on Opening Day.

I will freely admit that I will also gladly pay for a ticket for R Rated Fan Service Handjobs just to NOT support any of the DEI buffoonery that I can download, watch five minutes of and shitpost on here about.
TCronson
TCronson - 5/25/2024, 9:44 AM
@Batmangina - DP&W was produced by the major production assembly of DEI buffoonery though.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 5/25/2024, 10:43 AM
@Batmangina - just say you're a normie so we can move on
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 5/25/2024, 11:59 AM
@TCronson - Oh no there's nothing "Bad Hollywood" about a $250 million musical cash-in sequel, starring a pop star, that they never intended to make a sequel to until it made a billion dollars and the studio backed-up the money truck. With a trailer full of member berries literally recreating popular scenes from the first movie but with Harley Quinn in it.
TCronson
TCronson - 5/25/2024, 12:42 PM
@ObserverIO - your point is beyond dumb, it doesn't recreate those scenes just because they were popular, she's a direct reflection of him and that recreation is obviously intentional to show that. I bet you didn't complain when Blade Runner 2049 copypasted Tears in Rain in the same context with the only difference is removing monologue and replacing rain with snow, so keep your hypocrisy to yourself.

My point about "people complaining about bad Hollywood" was regarding all movies because it's stupid to pretend another cynical cameo fest with unfinished visuals effects is the only movie worth supporting among all movies and at the same time complaining Hollywood does only that, people get what they pay for.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 5/25/2024, 12:59 PM
@TCronson - If you don't think they're recreating the scene on the steps because it was popular, then maybe I'm not the one that's dumb. Or hypocritical.
I'm just saying, if you're looking for real cinema to support, this ain't it. It's just as mainstream as everything else you seem to be against.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 5/25/2024, 1:06 PM
It just pretends not to be. Which makes it pretentious.

And just to clarify, I'm not saying that cbms aren't real cinema. Tim Burton's Batman, Chris Nolan's Dark Knight, Guillermo Del Toro's Hellboy, Sam Raimi's Spider-Man and James Gunn's Guardians of the Galaxy are all as mainstream and commercial as you can get, but they are also examples of auteur cinema. Genuinely.

They are unpretentious and yet more real than Todd Phillips Joker movie or it's copy and paste sequel will ever be.

Todd Phillips is not an auteur. His body of work is full of cheap, teenage college humor comedies followed by his Martin Scorsese Karaoke session, Joker.
TCronson
TCronson - 5/25/2024, 2:06 PM
@ObserverIO - recreating it because it's popular and because they also want to show she's very much a reflection of its lead character are not mutually exclusive things, you're just reaching because you want to hate it like any filmbro on twitter. They changed the genre completely, changed plot, changed locations, introduced new lead character and yet you're claiming it's a copy paste sequel because they recreated a couple of scenes from the first movie? Really? You're complaing about Phillips making cheap teengage college humor comedies and yet you're using as huge champion of toiler and poor taste humor James Gunn as an example of an auteur? No offense, dude, but you are a massive hypocrite, be consistent at least.

I'm not against mainstream movies, in fact plenty of them are among my favourite movies and let me tell you Joker doesn't include things I'm actually against for the most part. I'm against big budget movies with bad cinematography, overreliance on green screens and unfinished CGI, very fake digital look, not identity of its own, overreliance on cameos and forced connections to cinematic universe instead of good story and characters, so it's very much a large chunk of MCU and DCEU flicks.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 5/25/2024, 2:23 PM
@TCronson - "They changed the genre completely, changed plot, changed locations, introduced new lead character..."

Yeah. So did Teen Wolf Too.
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Also they haven't really changed locations or plot and other than adding songs, they haven't really changed the genre. They've just introduced a female character to play a very similar role to Joaquin in the original. lol, they put a woman in it and made her gay. It's just 'She's Joker Too!'.

I wasn't complaining about Phillips making college humor movies, I'm just pointing out that that's the real Todd Phillips. Not Joker.
James Gunn's remained the same because he's a genuine auteur. The same James Gunn that made Super, Slither, Tromeo and Juliet obviously made the GOTG trilogy.
The Dark Knight is as much a Chris Nolan film as Oppenheimer and Inception.
Tim Burton's Batman movies are obviously made by the same artist that gave us Edward Scissorhands and Beetlejuice.
That's what I was pointing out. That Todd Phillips is not an auteur but those other cbm directors are. I wasn't berating his earlier style. I much prefer The Hangover part III, because that's unpretentiously the real Todd Phillips. He's not pretending to be Martin Scorsese, he's being himself; A disposable director of cheap college humor movies.

Also, if you think they got that smile lined up without the use of CGI you're kidding yourself.
TCronson
TCronson - 5/25/2024, 2:39 PM
@ObserverIO - "Also they haven't really changed locations or plot and other than adding songs, they haven't really changed the genre."
The first movie a psychological thriller set against urban hellscape. The second one is a musical and love story with 2 leads set in Arkham Asylum for a large chunk of the movie. If those things sound the same to you, I don't know what to say. In this case all your examples are carbon copies of their previous films, by your own logic.

"James Gunn's remained the same because he's a genuine auteur. The same James Gunn that made Super, Slither, Tromeo and Juliet obviously made the GOTG trilogy."
Slither is nothing like GOTG, one is a disgusting and gory horror flick and the other one is very light familty cbm set in space. Some of their jokes and vibes are Gunn's sure, but let's not pretend they are the same. If we go there, Joker includes some of Phillips' humor as well like midget and lock scene or Gary Glitter dance, that's unpretentiously his scenes, not Scorsese's or else. Gunn is not bigger auteur just because his style is less subtle and more noticeable. Ridley Scott doesn't have very showy style, but you can still recongize him through subtle moments or vibes.

"Also, if you think they got that smile lined up without the use of CGI you're kidding yourself."
I'm not against CGI use, even first movie had plenty of CGI, I'm against bad unfinished CGI, green screens posing as hotel rooms and overall fake digital generic look. Like Ant-Man 3, Thor 4 or all Watts Spider-Man flicks, they are bright examples of how not to make mainstream movies.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 5/25/2024, 3:03 PM
@TCronson - Well Ant Man 3 and Thor 4 used the Volume and I'm against that too, at least in supposedly big budget movies. They looked like shit and coincidentally both of those films were shit too. Those may be the worst MCU movies, by most people's standards.

I have noticed how lazy CG has been and how they haven't really been trying lately, especially during Covid (in defence of the VFX artists they were being underpaid and had too much of a workload.) It's refreshing when someone comes along and actually tries to innovate using VFX, such as a lot of James Cameron stuff like Avatar or Alita.

"If we go there, Joker includes some of Phillips' humor as well like midget and lock scene or Gary Glitter dance, that's unpretentiously his scenes,"

The little person was supposed to be funny? Maybe I just don't get Phillips' humor then. I just thought it was a little person, which by itself isn't an automatically funny thing imo.

As far as James Gunn's movies being the same, I think you're being too literal. Obviously they had different plots. Nolan's films have different plots. They're still autuers. GOTG was very James Gunn in the same way that all of his films are very James Gunn.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 5/25/2024, 3:04 PM
* different plots and genres.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 5/25/2024, 5:26 PM
@TCronson - It's their last ditch attempt at a real moneymaker - NWH was the exception that proved the rule and they're desperately trying to catch lightning in a bottle a second time.

The DEI crew isn't usually cranking out R Rated gore laden fan service unless there's a streaming service I'm not aware of
Batmangina
Batmangina - 5/25/2024, 5:27 PM
@bobevanz - lol okay
NathanielX
NathanielX - 5/25/2024, 5:41 PM
@ObserverIO - Yep, the little person was funny in a very twisted sense of humor,and still there was a subversion in that he is treated as a person cause he treated Arthur as a person not someone to make fun of.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 5/26/2024, 4:35 AM
@NathanielX - Yet Joker was making fun of him in the same scene. Even making fun of his accent. Joker is a hypocrite. And... y'know a murderer.
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 5/25/2024, 7:58 AM
Don’t really care what they do, long as it’s more exciting than the last.
JobinJ
JobinJ - 5/25/2024, 8:27 AM
@TheNewYorker - the last was a masterpiece. Sorry it didn’t have superhero’s in it and fart jokes.
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 5/25/2024, 10:06 AM
@JobinJ - indeed. It was a masterpiece. Um.. If you’re into fart jokes, cool. Whatever floats your boat. I just hope this one is equally as beautiful while being more exciting.
dragon316
dragon316 - 5/25/2024, 8:04 AM
May see this in theater
JobinJ
JobinJ - 5/25/2024, 8:28 AM
The first one. Was a masterpiece.

People on this site don’t like it because it didn’t have superhero’s and Marvel fart jokes every 3 minutes.
Origame
Origame - 5/25/2024, 10:37 AM
@JobinJ - ...wtf are you talking about? Joker has been praised on this site by many users.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/25/2024, 8:40 AM
Everytime I see a an article about this , my mind just goes to this due to the DC & Lady Gaga connection now…

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Kidding aside , I certainly have my concerns about the film especially as someone who didn’t care much for the first one but she is not one of them…

She’s proven her mettle as an actress imo and is a good choice for the role so she’ll do well.
PartyKiller
PartyKiller - 5/25/2024, 9:05 AM
WTF? She did it before when she bumped poor Leo.
SuperCat
SuperCat - 5/25/2024, 9:34 AM
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MahN166A
MahN166A - 5/25/2024, 9:46 AM
@SuperCat -

Looks like Phillips got inspiration from watching The Worst Person in the World.

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Mrtoke
Mrtoke - 5/25/2024, 10:02 AM
@MahN166A - no, it was from Harold and Kumar lmao
99OPTIMISTPRIME
99OPTIMISTPRIME - 5/25/2024, 12:22 PM
Really a perfect role for her. Harley killing the Joker in the end, is my expectation.
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