BIRDS OF PREY Star Rosie Perez Would Return For A Sequel, But Hopes For Fewer "Ageist" Jokes Next Time

BIRDS OF PREY Star Rosie Perez Would Return For A Sequel, But Hopes For Fewer "Ageist" Jokes Next Time

Renee Montoya being an experienced cop in Harley Quinn: Birds of Prey saw her used as the butt of more than a few jokes, and if a sequel does happen, Rosie Perez hopes that might change next time around...

By JoshWilding - Dec 01, 2020 01:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Birds of Prey
Source: Uproxx

Harley Quinn: Birds of Preyor Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) as it was originally known, was a critical hit, but failed to resonate with moviegoers when it was released in theaters at the start of the year. As a result, it's hard to imagine a sequel being given the go-ahead, though a spinoff revolving around the Birds of Prey themselves might one day happen. 

During a recent interview with Uproxx, Renee Montoya actress Rosie Perez was asked if she has any interest in a Birds of Prey sequel. It definitely sounds like she's open to the idea, but if it happens, Perez would like there to be fewer "ageist" jokes at her former Gotham City cop's expense. 

"I mean, if it happens, sure. When you said that, the first thing that came to my mind was, 'Oh my God, I have to lose weight and get in shape again,'" she started. 

"Hopefully, there won’t be any ageist type of jokes in it as well. Having me called 'grandma.' That was the only thing, I was like, 'Really guys? Really?' I was like, 'Would you have the nerve to say that to Helen Mirren, in her 50 million action movies?'"

It's a valid point, and you can't really blame Perez for not being a fan of that kind of dialogue. 

Regardless, it seems unlikely that we'll see much more of the Birds of Prey in the DC Extended Universe, though it does look like Harley Quinn still has a bright future thanks to the upcoming The Suicide Squad


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10. Poison Ivy

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The last time we saw Poison Ivy on the big screen, Uma Therman was hamming it up as the villain in the abysmal Batman & Robin. A faithful take on this character – whose desire to save the world’s plant life as an ecoterrorist of sorts is more relevant today than ever – is without a doubt long overdue, and this Harley Quinn movie is perhaps the perfect place to bring her back.

The dynamic between Harley and Ivy is well worth exploring, and that's particularly the case due to recent comic books confirming that their relationship is a romantic one.

Delving into that would be a big step forward for the genre, while it just so happens to be something fans have been desperate to see for years now. That aside, Ivy is a great character in her own right, and someone with a tonne of potential to really shine in an upcoming DC Comics movie.
 

9. Wacky Weapons

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Harley certainly had her fair share of unique weapons in Birds of Prey, but they were all pretty grounded, and taking things down a sillier route now wouldn't be the worst idea in the world. 

From "Ha-Ha" knuckle-dusters to oversized guns, realism really should be thrown out of the window here for the sake of doing this fan-favourite anti-hero justice on the big screen. After all, the reason DC Universe's animated series is so popular is because it embraces Harley's crazy world. 

A Harley Quinn movie doesn't need to go too over the top (to the point where it's not remotely realistic), but let the character have fun with some of the weapons fans love from the comics.
 

8. Ties To The Wider DC Extended Universe

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Birds of Prey referenced the events of Suicide Squad, but only in a very vague way. Beyond her broken relationship with The Joker, you'd never know that Harley hated Amanda Waller or struck up an unlikely friendship (and potential romance) with Deadshot. 

The best we got was a nod to the fact Harley recognised Captain Boomerang, and while the DC Extended Universe is growing increasingly standalone in nature, we'd hope that a Harley Quinn movie like this wouldn't be quite as cut off from this world as Birds of Prey.

For starters, it should absolutely tie into James Gunn's The Suicide Squad in some way, while also acknowledging Harley's history that we have seen on screen...and some we haven't too. 
 

7. The Classic Costume

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This was spotted in Suicide Squad, but that's about as close as the DC Extended Universe has ever really got to using it. It may not be the most realistic costume from the comic books, but that blink and you'd miss it moment with Harley dancing alongside The Joker proves that it a) works on screen, and b) would look pretty damn cool to boot. 

We're not even suggesting Harley wears this for an entire movie, but getting to see Margot Robbie's take on the character kicking butt while decked out in it would be welcomed by fans. 

Perhaps this is something we could see in flashbacks? After all, Harley's time terrorising Gotham City alongside the Clown Prince of Crime has only ever been addressed on a surface level.
 

6. Putting The Guys In Their Place

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One of the most enjoyable parts of Harley Quinn’s adventures is seeing her put guys like Batman and Green Arrow in their place. The take no nonsense anti-hero doesn’t hesitate to run circles around them both physically and verbally, and that’s something which needs to make it into this movie.

Birds of Prey sort of went down this route, but spent the entire movie emphasising the fact that men are terrible. That's actually kind of true, but it alienated some viewers and was too heavy-handed.

There are ways to address sexism and feminism meaningfully, without it feeling over the top and actually making it fun. Hence, we'd like to see her outsmart heroes like the ones mentioned above.
 

5. Plenty Of Humour

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Suicide Squad had a lot of humour shoehorned into it, and that's why director David Ayer is now pushing Warner Bros. to #ReleaseTheAyerCut of his 2016 movie. Birds of Prey delivered a lot of laughs, of course, but it wasn't quite as funny as movies like Thor: Ragnarok and Deadpool.

Bringing in some female comedy writers for this spinoff would be a smart move, and the first true DC Extended Universe comedy might open up a lot of new storytelling avenues to Warner Bros. 

Dedicating an entire movie to Harley Quinn getting over a breakup was a solid way to help her move on from The Joker, but it didn't lead to a lot of laughs, and arguably wasn't the best way to approach a story revolving around this character. She's a fun and weird personality, and while Harley deserves an impactful storyline, a movie more in line with Deadpool's would be better.
 

4. Bring Back The Birds Of Prey

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As we mentioned, we loved Birds of Prey here at CBM, and while it did sort of drop the ball on giving characters like Huntress and Black Canary the screentime they deserve, we do want to see more of them. A spinoff of their own makes sense, but bringing them back here would be welcomed.

Chances are it would be a minor role, of course, but seeing Harley confront Green Arrow and Black Canary, for example, could lead to a fun exchange, and a pretty badass fight scene to boot. 

If nothing else, this Harley Quinn movie could reintroduce the Birds of Prey to audiences in a big way, and reboot them to an extent so they're more in line with their comic book counterparts.
 

3. Batgirl

Batgirl

Thinking about all of the great female DC Comics characters who could show up here, a very long list of names come to mind. However, Barbara Gordon definitely needs to be included in some way.

Like fellow Batman & Robin character Poison Ivy, it’s about time Batgirl returns to the big screen, and while she's deserving of her own movie, she could be used here similar to Colossus in Deadpool. The Merc with the Mouth was at his best with a straight man like that or Cable, and the same could be the case with Harley as she finds herself forced to work alongside this sidekick.

While using her here in her Oracle persona (Barbara was left in a wheelchair after being shot by The Joker and went on to provide both the Birds of Prey and Batman with intel from their base) has some potential, Batgirl is arguably far more essential to the DCEU right now. 
 

2. A PG-13 Rating This Time

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The decision to give Birds of Prey an R-Rating really didn't pay off for Warner Bros. Like Deadpool, Harley Quinn works well in that setting, but she's also massively popular with younger moviegoers, particularly teenage girls. From a business perspective alone, that makes sense, and it definitely seemed like that R-Rated tone didn't do these characters that many favours. 

Harley doesn't need a face full of cocaine or a long list of F-bombs to be funny and crazy, and while putting her in a family friendly setting might feel like a step backwards, look how well Thor's reinvention worked in Thor: Ragnarok; with the right creative team working on a project like this, Harley could be amusing, potentially push the boundaries, and remain compelling.

This rating might just be needed to convince a lot of moviegoers to give the character another chance, because one more disappointment, and Harley's time on screen could reach its end.
 

1. The Joker

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The decision to have Harley Quinn break up with The Joker was a completely understandable one, and there's really no need for the character to be trapped in what is truly an abusive relationship.

However, making the Clown Prince of Crime on off-screen presence didn't really work, and the end to their relationship could have played out far more effectively had she been able to come face to face with him. With that in mind, a cameo here which could be a flashback or excuse for Harley to kick her ex-Puddin's ass, reuniting them on screen has plenty of potential. 

It's not the biggest priority in all honesty, but it feels like there are better ways to wrap things up between these two and it Harley could get proper closure by physically putting him in his place. 
 

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tmp3
tmp3 - 12/1/2020, 1:09 AM
>Sequel to a film that crashed & burned at the box office
Lol
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 12/1/2020, 3:07 AM
@tmp3 - Ford v Ferrari did similar numbers, did that crash and burn too? Not saying that BoP was a roaring success or anything, but making your budget twice usually means you broke even.
dracula
dracula - 12/1/2020, 1:13 AM
This is one movie that when it first came out, I thought it was decent, nothing amazing, but not bad, but now the more I think about it, the more I dislike it.
The pointlessness of Huntress
Their take on Zsasz
Harley just not really being funny at all
The thing I dislike the most being the treatment of my favorite member of the Batfamily outside of Batman

like seriously that one page shows how they butchered the character so horribly.

The asian chick in The Boys, that is basically what I wanted Cassandra Cain to be.
dracula
dracula - 12/1/2020, 1:14 AM
really the only character I felt was done justice was Black Canary, wouldn't mind seeing that version in a Green Arrow movie
tmp3
tmp3 - 12/1/2020, 1:16 AM
@dracula - The actress who plays Canary was really good in Lovecraft Country. Wasted here but still
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 12/1/2020, 1:17 AM
@dracula - If by done justice you mean create a character that absolutely nothing like the character from the comic books then yeah sure Black Canary was done justice.
dracula
dracula - 12/1/2020, 1:17 AM
@tmp3 - planning on checking that out soon, probably after I finish the His Dark Materials season 1
dracula
dracula - 12/1/2020, 1:19 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - Wouldn't call it perfect, but she at least had a real arc, wasn't annoying or just caricature like everyone else in the movie.
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 12/1/2020, 1:22 AM
@dracula - Black Canary is supposed to be the passionate and idealistic heart of the team, maybe she wasn’t a caricature but her character was like night and day from the one from the comic books.
dracula
dracula - 12/1/2020, 1:26 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - agree there, but really as her own thing, she works fine. even if you look at the rest of the characters as completely separate from their comics, id say they still fail.
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 12/1/2020, 1:33 AM
@dracula - I don’t know... I thought they mostly worked fine, they were all just sacrificed for the sake of Harley Quinn and the ego of the project, but as small supporting players in a Harley Quinn movie they worked, Huntress was fun, Cassandra Cain was your typical street kid. It just sucks because it claimed to be a Birds of Prey movie and we know how awesome characters like Huntress and Cassandra Cain (and Black Canary) should be.
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 12/1/2020, 1:15 AM
kitheka
kitheka - 12/1/2020, 1:22 AM
Sure, why not. 1st one was fine.
dracula
dracula - 12/1/2020, 1:24 AM
Seriously comic book Cassandra Cain is good enough to support her own movie.

Really the plot (not execution) would fit Catwoman better than Harley, ditch the birds and swap out Cain for Holly Robinson
Boyle360
Boyle360 - 12/1/2020, 1:25 AM
The Harley Quinn animated series is so, so good. It's a shame the movie didn't pull it off as well.
dracula
dracula - 12/1/2020, 1:27 AM
@Boyle360 - If only they just let Harley be a villain. Seriously at this point would rather see Kaley Cucco take over the role in live action. Margot Robbie does not have 1 comedic bone in her body.
globaltravels
globaltravels - 12/1/2020, 1:37 AM
@dracula - they’ll never do that. Harley has become a role model for young girls
dracula
dracula - 12/1/2020, 1:40 AM
@globaltravels - uh, and her and joker are seen as relationship goals...

some people need to see Mad Love
Boyle360
Boyle360 - 12/1/2020, 6:48 AM
@dracula - or the series!
4thMaster
4thMaster - 12/1/2020, 7:45 AM
@dracula - Letting Robbie stretch her dramatic muscles in the role is what she needs, she is pretty good in dramatic roles. Instead of treating everything like a joke, a bit or a farse, let her have more real moments.
NodrickStripson
NodrickStripson - 12/1/2020, 1:32 AM
This film is an embarrassing pile of shit.
Robbie needs to keep her grubby digits off of Tank Girl too.
Jimster
Jimster - 12/1/2020, 8:47 PM
@NodrickStripson - Forgot she was doing Tank Girl. I wish they'd scrap the movie and make an animated series instead. One that matches the visuals of the comics.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 12/1/2020, 1:42 AM
I have zero interest in a sequel. The only thing I really liked was Black Canary and Black Mask, but the latter mostly just because of Ewan McGregor.

We'll get to see Harley Quinn return in the Suicide Squad, but I hope the rest of the character will get rebooted in the Batman Reeverse.
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