BLACK PANTHER: WAKANDA FOREVER Producer Reveals When The Movie Takes Place In MCU Timeline

BLACK PANTHER: WAKANDA FOREVER Producer Reveals When The Movie Takes Place In MCU Timeline

Phase 4 has been Marvel Studios' busiest, most hectic slate of movies (and TV shows) to date, leading to a lot of timeline questions. Now, a Black Panther: Wakanda Forever producer reveals where it sits.

By JoshWilding - Nov 03, 2022 10:11 AM EST
Source: Cinema Blend

Thanks to Disney+, the Marvel Cinematic Universe has expanded rapidly during Phase 4. As a result, there's been a little less connectivity than what we're used to, and some confusion about where certain stories fit in the wider timeline. 

For example, no one has mentioned the giant marble Celestial sticking out of the Indian Ocean, something you'd think would be a major plot point across several franchises. Black Panther: Wakanda Forever ends this Phase in the Multiverse Saga, but where does it fit in the MCU's timeline? 

Thanks to producer Nate Moore, we have an answer. 

"This movie clearly happens after No Way Home and Eternals," he confirmed in an interview with Cinema Blend. "I think it probably happens potentially concurrent with [Thor: Love and Thunder]. New Asgard does exist in our universe, for instance, or in our film."

"And almost concurrent with Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania," Moore adds, "which is coming out in February."

It's interesting that he names Spider-Man: No Way Home and Eternals as the movies Black Panther: Wakanda Forever follows, though they are believed to have both taken place nearer the end of Phase 4, anyway. Whether we'll get references to either one of them remains to be seen, and we certainly don't expect the Ant-Man threequel's Kang to make an appearance!

In fact, those early reactions suggest the Black Panther sequel is relatively standalone in nature, so we anticipate little in the way of crossovers. It's a shame, but as we head into Phase 5, the hope is that Marvel Studios might begin to start making a greater effort to link all these stories up. 

Needless to say, if Namor the Submariner doesn't at least mention that Celestial...well, it will be a major missed opportunity on the MCU's part.

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever arrives in theaters on November 11. 

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CyberNigerian
CyberNigerian - 11/3/2022, 10:44 AM
Those photoshop/lightroom skills on these posters? A1
mountainman
mountainman - 11/3/2022, 10:49 AM
So if it’s post-Eternals, I hope Namor references the giant celestial protruding from the ocean.

That significant event has to be referenced somewhere outside of that movie. And this seems as good of a place as any.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 11/3/2022, 10:55 AM
Complaints about too much connectivity

Complaints about not enough connectivity

🤦🏽‍♂️ Is it oochie Wally or one mic with people?

Everything is connected didnt mean a billion references in every project it meant these things happen in the same world

US life happens at the same as other countries and yet we don’t have to say well look what the Brit’s did everyday
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 11/3/2022, 11:03 AM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - I remember when "too many characters and references/forced world-building" was a complaint, now if Doctor Doom doesn't appear in the post-credits scene then this movie is an instant failure with no reason to watch it. fanboys are the worst.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 11/3/2022, 11:15 AM
@Spidey91 - it’s like they are just complaining to complain, references isn’t a valid reason to criticize something because they serve no purpose other than a wink and nod to the people who decided to watch all of the productions
The1st
The1st - 11/3/2022, 12:08 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA -
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 11/3/2022, 1:54 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - one mic. I would only compare oochie Wally with songs like it, like Big Pimpin, which of course ain’t him (and it wins) but still, but yeah one mic… dang I’m finna dig into some nas tracks, thanks
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 11/3/2022, 2:42 PM
@TheWalkingCuban - make sure to check out that new project he did with hit boy. Kings disease 3
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 11/3/2022, 2:48 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - Aite
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 11/3/2022, 4:18 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - As much as I enjoy your Nas analogy, it doesn't have to be one extreme or the other. Marvel went from super connected in every way, to stories that seemingly happen in a vacuum. So yeah, fans can complain either way. I would like to see them meet somewhere in the middle with it personally.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 11/3/2022, 4:38 PM
@Shivermetimbers - but it’s always been a mix is my point

It wasn’t ever one or the other and the complaints when one happens vs the other are stupid cause it wasn’t like that
MILESSPIDERMAN
MILESSPIDERMAN - 11/3/2022, 5:25 PM
@Spidey91 - doom was never going to be in this film this is a deep film about Chadwick and Black panther, not nonsense like doom
Reginator
Reginator - 11/3/2022, 10:55 AM
Has any movie references the eternals?
datfigures
datfigures - 11/3/2022, 11:00 AM
@Reginator - movie, no. Ms. Marvel had a passing Kingo reference as I recall.
rychlec
rychlec - 11/3/2022, 11:13 AM
@Reginator - I believe She-Hulk had a blink and you miss it reference to Tiamet as an article in a newspaper.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 11/3/2022, 11:13 AM
@datfigures - she hulk also had a news clipping referencing the now stone celestial sticking out of the Indian ocean
thereeljoefish
thereeljoefish - 11/3/2022, 11:14 AM
I suggest we watch the movie.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 11/3/2022, 11:38 AM
Wait!

If this movie does not take place inbetween Avenger: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame, then that would mean...

T'Challa dies again?!?!?

Poor Wakanda, Two funerals for the same king in only 5 years.
NoAssemblyReqd
NoAssemblyReqd - 11/3/2022, 1:38 PM
@ObserverIO - Three if you count his “death” at the hands of Killmonger.
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