X-MEN 97's Beau DeMayo Calls MCU's Namor And Johnny Storm Soft, Goes Off On Marvel

X-MEN 97's Beau DeMayo Calls MCU's Namor And Johnny Storm Soft, Goes Off On Marvel

Beau DeMayo is not a stranger to controversial comments, and he's set his sights on the MCU versions of Johnny Storm, Namor, and storytelling as a whole.

By ChandlerMcniel - Apr 11, 2025 05:04 PM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four

Beau DeMayo is certainly not one to hold his tongue. He’s said quite a few controversial comments in the past, and he seems to want to stir the pot once more. 

His comments are regarding an EW interview with the cast of Fantastic Four: First Steps. To get the context, read those comments below which we reported on yesterday.

"He's a man that leads with a lot of bravado, which can be an affront sometimes. But also he's funny," Joseph Quinn says of the Human Torch. "Myself and [Marvel Studios boss] Kevin [Feige] were speaking about previous iterations of him and where we are culturally. He was branded as this womanizing, devil-may-care guy, but is that sexy these days? I don't think so."

"This version of Johnny is less callous with other people's feelings, and hopefully there's a self-awareness about what's driving that attention-seeking behavior." 

Shakman adds, "[Johnny] is really smart. He's on that spaceship for a reason, and I think sometimes people forget that in various comic stories, he's been one of the most heroic of them, even if he's undercutting his heroism at every turn through humor. He's Sue's brother, which means they are cut from similar cloth."

Now, take a look at DeMayo’s post on X.

He didn’t clarify much on his thoughts regarding Namor, but he had a lot more to say otherwise.

In the comments there actually seemed to be more support for his comments than criticisms. Regarding the storytelling of modern movies, DeMayo commented, “It’s one of the single biggest issues undermining stories today. The need for characters to be idealized manifestations of our individual ideologies.”

When a user said he should stop complaining about modernization, he replied, “There is a way to tell a story that dramatizes his evolution. Character growth — the core of drama — requires flawed characters. The issue that many have — and why film and TV are struggling — is because of an inability for people to watch”.

He went on in the comments to describe an alternative way of telling Johnny’s story by saying the following:

“There’s a way to — if you wanted — tell a really compelling story about a braggart white boy who lacks empathy — and maybe is a little womanizing — who is checked and humbled after being transformed into a celebrity hero, where he himself is treated like a product and thereby reflects on his own duty to be better.  

This is a tale that inspires people in real life to maybe do the same. 

But instead, despite @Marvel being a studio that fires women b/c someone doesn’t like working for them, they pander for profit. 

It’s virtue racketing, and I’ve been on the inside and seen them laugh as they play this game knowingly, and it’s sickening to watch people fall for it. 

This is a company that has next to NO female execs, and multiple HR incidents that they cover up where their boys club got out of control, most recently a producer on Nova. 

So no, I don’t buy this one bit.”

What are your thoughts on the changes to Johnny Storm’s character and Beau Demayo’s response? Let us know in the comments!

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SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 4/11/2025, 5:50 PM
Ray Fischer 2.0
bobevanz
bobevanz - 4/11/2025, 7:07 PM
@SonOfAGif - not even close. At least Beau has good reason
bobevanz
bobevanz - 4/11/2025, 7:09 PM
dracula
dracula - 4/11/2025, 8:05 PM
@SonOfAGif - at least this guy is t vague about his accusations
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 4/11/2025, 9:54 PM
@SonOfAGif - lolz, he has great points and being on the inside is a major plus.

Highflyer
Highflyer - 4/11/2025, 10:58 PM
@bobevanz - How was Ray's reason bad?
Highflyer
Highflyer - 4/11/2025, 10:59 PM
@SonOfAGif - Meaning?
SolarSoldier
SolarSoldier - 4/12/2025, 7:34 AM
@Highflyer - It wasn't and he...was proven right, but by then it was too late.
YouIknowiamsexy
YouIknowiamsexy - 4/12/2025, 8:21 AM
@Highflyer - You know why. They just don't want to say it outloud.
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 4/11/2025, 5:51 PM
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LordMushu
LordMushu - 4/11/2025, 5:58 PM
@MCUKnight11 - bahahahaha this was perfect
thebamf
thebamf - 4/11/2025, 5:51 PM
This guy.... he's loud AF
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 4/11/2025, 9:54 PM
@thebamf - but wrong he is not
gambgel
gambgel - 4/11/2025, 5:56 PM
honestly, he makes very solid points. And I just agree.

We all know how Hollywood works and these big studios with white old men.
BellChi1ton
BellChi1ton - 4/11/2025, 6:54 PM
@gambgel - What solid points? All he’s doing is just saying these sweeping broad statements without providing examples to substantiate anything of it.
gambgel
gambgel - 4/11/2025, 6:58 PM
@BellChi1ton - what examples do you need?

His points are perfectly clear and he talks from his own experience in the industry. What more do you need? he speaks his opinions, and he has the right for it. as we all do.
BellChi1ton
BellChi1ton - 4/11/2025, 7:06 PM
@gambgel - Nobody is talking about wether or not a person has a right to state an opinion. I’m not sure why you said that or what that has to do with anything I said.

Again, he’s just saying sweeping broad statements without providing any examples. So it’s hollow and nothing substantive is being said.

Example: he could’ve said “based on everything that has happened in the last several months, people are dumb.” And your response is “I agree, he makes some solid points.”

Like, what? What is he talking about? What does he even mean? He’s just saying these vague generalities.

Also, Fantastic 4: First Steps hasn’t even released yet, so not even sure what he’s so upset about.
FrankenDad
FrankenDad - 4/11/2025, 9:05 PM
@BellChi1ton - It seems like every time people start to forget about him he has to pop up and whine about something to remind us all he’s alive.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 4/11/2025, 9:56 PM
@gambgel - great, a logical comment after seeing the first few shill ones.

It will br funny and great at the same time if Gunn hires him for DC. He seem to have a good grasp at storytelling and comics
soberchimera
soberchimera - 4/11/2025, 5:57 PM
I knew Feige wouldn’t have the balls to have Johnny play the field, even though that’s believably what every young male celebrity would do in real life.
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 4/11/2025, 6:57 PM
@soberchimera - Did everyone forget Iron Man 2008? And the sequel where he ogles Black Widow?
soberchimera
soberchimera - 4/11/2025, 8:18 PM
@UncleHarm1 - Did you forget those movies came out in 2008 and 2010?
Fogs
Fogs - 4/11/2025, 8:54 PM
@UncleHarm1 - b4 disney, champ.
itzayaboy
itzayaboy - 4/11/2025, 6:01 PM
Slow news day, huh?
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 4/11/2025, 6:03 PM
“It’s one of the single biggest issues undermining stories today. The need for characters to be idealized manifestations of our individual ideologies.”

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ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/11/2025, 6:10 PM
@KennKathleen - And this is exactly why Stan Lee was so revolutionary, because he gave us flawed superheroes with deeper characters, with arcs and learning curves and growth.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 4/11/2025, 6:11 PM
@ObserverIO - User Comment Image

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BellChi1ton
BellChi1ton - 4/11/2025, 6:57 PM
@KennKathleen - So what’s he referring to when he says that?
SorceresSupreme
SorceresSupreme - 4/11/2025, 7:29 PM
@BellChi1ton - generally speaking, making the characters stick more to the current political correctness climate, even if it messes with the character's core personality. the team's dynamic is balanced because of their personalities, so making the literal flame dude a soft guy is dumb and condescending af
BellChi1ton
BellChi1ton - 4/11/2025, 7:48 PM
@SorceresSupreme - what scene are you referring to in Fantastic Four: First Steps where Johnny’s character was ruined because of political correctness?
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 4/11/2025, 8:49 PM
@BellChi1ton - You'd have to ask him for that exact answer.

The first example that comes to my mind is the pussification of Johnny Storm, and the domineering description of Sue Storm in their upcoming outing.

They call it an upgrade for "modern audiences", which equates in my mind to plus-sized, dub-x, cooter-crossers, who devalue men at every chance, yet still have an obsession with implementing their narrative in unrequested atmospheres.

Ya dig? 🤨
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 4/11/2025, 8:51 PM
@SorceresSupreme -

@BellChi1ton -

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vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 4/11/2025, 9:57 PM
@KennKathleen - so perfect
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 4/11/2025, 10:17 PM
@vectorsigma - User Comment Image
DTor91
DTor91 - 4/11/2025, 6:03 PM
This guy aligns with Comicsgate and all the Liefeld nonsense too. Whatever credibility he had is gone.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 4/11/2025, 6:03 PM
Putting Johnny aside , I find it funny that he’s talking about softening Namor considering that’s a character that has some history of harassment given his continued pursuits of Sue who is a married woman…

He might have related too much with Namor then considering his own (alleged) history of harassment right?.

Also people forget that while Johnny is a cocky hotshot in most iterations , he is not really a womanizer even in the comics (atleast the ones I’m familiar with) and that was moreso a trait in the Story films which is when I first noticed it.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 4/11/2025, 6:52 PM
@TheVisionary25 - He is not one I thought of as being a womanizer in the comics, for someone in print for sixty years I think he has averaged only about one love interest per decade I'm aware of, certainly far fewer than I'm aware than the likes of Peter Parker and Matt Murdock for instance. Cocky sure, but constant flirting and affairs kinda stuff first I was aware of that was the films but then only read F4 in the 80's all be it that included old copies from the 70's.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 4/11/2025, 7:37 PM
@Apophis71 - yeah

Honestly , my read of the character has been him genuinely always looking love but never getting it
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 4/11/2025, 6:03 PM
De Mayo..... PUT A GODAMN SHIRT NOOOOW!!!
TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 4/11/2025, 6:12 PM
I meaaaaan. He's kinda got a point. lol Marvel has watered down a lot of protagonist/villains to appeal to the masses instead of making them stand out in their own light that's true to their characterization.
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