Ray Winstone Reflects On "Soul-Destroying" BLACK WIDOW Role: "It's Like Being Kicked In The Balls"

Ray Winstone Reflects On "Soul-Destroying" BLACK WIDOW Role: "It's Like Being Kicked In The Balls"

Black Widow star Ray Winstone has reflected on playing the villainous Dreykov in the 2021 movie, admitting he hated the experience after being asked by Marvel to dial back his performance during reshoots.

By JoshWilding - Feb 29, 2024 05:02 AM EST
Filed Under: Black Widow
Source: Radio Times

Ray Winstone played the villainous Red Room overseer in Black Widow. While he wasn't the most memorable baddie we've ever seen in the MCU, the actor had some decent material to sink his teeth into and appeared in some hard-hitting scenes alongside Scarlett Johansson. 

However, the actor really didn't enjoy his role in the 2021 blockbuster. 

Talking to Radio Times, Winstone said shooting Black Widow "was fine until you have to do the reshoots." He added, "Then you find out that a few producers have come down, and your performance is too much, it’s too strong. That’s the way Marvel works."

"It can be soul-destroying because you feel like you’re doing great work," the British actor continued. "I actually said, 'You ought to recast it because that was it for me.' And you end up doing it again because you’re contracted to do it. Otherwise you end up in court. It’s like being kicked in the balls."

As it was, Winstone chewed scenery as Dreykov, so if he initially went even more over-the-top as the Russian baddie, that might explain why Marvel Studios wanted him to dial it back a little. 

In a separate interview with The Guardian, Winstone admitted that there have been projects he's taken on simply because they pay the bills. Presumably, Black Widow was one of them! 

"You go have fun for six weeks, see how it turns out," he says. "If it turns out great, it’s a plus. If it don’t, it don’t. But you’ve had a great six weeks. You do do films you don’t want to do. But you’ve got to do them because you haven’t worked in a little while and you’ve got to pay the rent."

Last year, Red Guardian actor David Harbour confirmed Black Widow's entire third act was reshot. "I think they did want the opportunity to change some stuff," he recalls. "The interesting thing about Marvel that’s so great about them is they do rework stuff. Even big productions."

"Like 'Black Widow,' the entire third act was reworked as we were shooting, which is incredible. And so, they just want that freedom."

Black Widow is now streaming on Disney+.

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KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 2/29/2024, 5:33 AM
I don't remember anything remotely interesting happening in this movie. I wish he could explain the most disappointing changes made.

Scarilian
Scarilian - 2/29/2024, 6:24 AM
@KennKathleen -
"anything remotely interesting happening"

Black Widow breaks her nose by slamming it into a table because she can't smell the stink of the villain as his stink is so overpowering that it makes women do what he says.

I think that had unintentional comedic value in how moronic the writing was and how ridiculous the scene was seeing her smash her face into a desk.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 2/29/2024, 6:28 AM
@KennKathleen - the only good thing about this is Florence Pugh
DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 2/29/2024, 7:58 AM
@vectorsigma - yeah, and even then, I barely remember her role.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 2/29/2024, 9:36 AM
@Scarilian - I keep trying to forget about that...

KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 2/29/2024, 9:40 AM
@vectorsigma -





vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 2/29/2024, 9:42 AM
@KennKathleen - lol,to each their own i guess
Matador
Matador - 2/29/2024, 10:12 AM
@Scarilian - Yikes haven't watched it but wouldn't have been better to just stick two tampons in her nose instead of smashing it?

JonC
JonC - 2/29/2024, 11:43 AM
@Scarilian - i assume you are joking as to why she broke her nose... the whole mind control thing with an implant was in her body.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 3/1/2024, 6:46 PM
@JonC -
'Romanoff is unable to attack Dreykov due to a pheromone lock installed in every Widow, but negates that by breaking her own nose and severing her olfactory nerve.'



She breaks her nose because the implant is activated by the stench of Dreykov. He's literally too stinky for her to defeat so she breaks her nose to be able to attack him.

Scarilian
Scarilian - 3/1/2024, 6:47 PM
@Matador -
The film has a remark that she needs to severing her olfactory nerve, but honestly if it's smell activated she could have just attacked him from a distance when she wouldn't be able to smell him.

The film also could have easily had her severe the nerve prior, but they wanted to have her do an empowerment moment so she smashes her face into the desk xD
Matador
Matador - 3/2/2024, 2:07 PM
@Scarilian - LOL Disney throwing out common sense like the Minions.

Thing94
Thing94 - 2/29/2024, 5:34 AM
Female Taskmaster was a kick in the balls
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 2/29/2024, 6:21 AM
@Thing94 - It was a removal of the balls.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/29/2024, 5:35 AM
And somehow people will see what he says as toxic. This is Marvel's MO. Constantly changing movies up until the last second. They can't make their mind up, they have feedback from way too many [frick]ing producers and suits, most of their movies are made in post vfx, leaving little room for creativity when it comes to writing a script by the numbers. They need to go back to formula
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 2/29/2024, 7:51 AM
@bobevanz - I’ve grown so tired of hearing that

Like just make the movie and live with the results can’t micromanage everything
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 2/29/2024, 9:26 AM
@bobevanz - It's funny because you're saying they need to return to formula while @Urubrodi is stating this was the epitome of the Marvel formula. 🫠
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 2/29/2024, 9:46 AM
@bobevanz -









supermanrex
supermanrex - 2/29/2024, 10:20 AM
@EskimoJ - the only thing consistent on this site is people bitching. its funny how much they break their neck to complain about any [frick]ing thing. opinions while all over the place here have one thing in common, i hate what they are making. i wouldnt do it that way. blah blah blah blah.
TrentCrimm
TrentCrimm - 2/29/2024, 5:44 AM
"the entire third act was reworked as we were shooting, which is incredible"

I don't get why Harbour says this as a good thing, it's not a good thing. It speaks to the lack of cohesion at Marvel, how can anyone involved even know what movie they're making, when Marvel suits are going in and completely reworking the movies practically right up until release.
Bokis
Bokis - 2/29/2024, 5:57 AM
@TrentCrimm - Haven't seen Black Widow since theaters but I found the third act incredibly dissapointing. Not only did it look super ugly, but it totally took the focus away from the smaller drama that had unfolded before
soberchimera
soberchimera - 2/29/2024, 9:15 AM
@TrentCrimm - A Black Widow movie should not have had any CGI period.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/29/2024, 5:56 AM
Diva wanted final cut, huh?
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 2/29/2024, 5:56 AM
This one might be the best example of the "Marvel formula" at work. No risks, nothing memorable (apart from Yelena).
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 2/29/2024, 6:00 AM
If this was “soul-destroying” then I wonder how he felt about Cats?.



Kidding aside (somewhat) , he is a good actor and thought did well with the material he had in BW…

The character himself was so despicable and had no redeeming qualities whatsoever that I thought him chewing the scenery made him entertaining to watch , atleast for me (even if his performance was dialed back from how it was originally).

Anyway , looking forward to seeing him in Damsel & Netflix’s The Gentlemen!!.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 2/29/2024, 6:01 AM
"Then you find out that a few producers have come down, and your performance is too much, it’s too strong. That’s the way Marvel works."

Hey, Alonso is out, maybe it was her? Hope so...
rychlec
rychlec - 2/29/2024, 6:11 AM
A lot of Black Widow is pretty solid, in hindsight. But yeah, that 'secret' floating Red Room? You can do better, Senator!
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