CAPTAIN AMERICA EXCLUSIVE: Director Joe Johnston Discusses Shooting Captain America in 2D vs 3D

CAPTAIN AMERICA EXCLUSIVE: Director Joe Johnston Discusses Shooting Captain America in 2D vs 3D

Over at Earth's Mightiest we have an exclusive interview with First Avenger: Captain America director Joe Johnston who shares his experiences shooting a day of 3D tests for Captain America, and why he ultimately decided to go 2D.

By EdGross - Aug 16, 2010 12:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Captain America
Source: Earth's Mightiest

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StevilNYC
StevilNYC - 8/16/2010, 12:31 PM
Awesome! Keep the Cap news coming!
Deadshot
Deadshot - 8/16/2010, 12:32 PM
3D sucks
Brashlight
Brashlight - 8/16/2010, 12:36 PM
I really appreciate his take on 3D. Definitely well thought out. in the long run it will benefit the movie to shoot it in 2D. Plus I don't understand the uproar about 3D?! its not all that great. Avatar was better in 2D in my opinion. I saw it in a regular theater in 2D and then saw it in IMax High Def 3D and the 2D was better. the 3D fad needs to die, but unfortunately im afraid im a minority on that view.
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 8/16/2010, 12:37 PM
Great stuff as always Ed. :)
StevilNYC
StevilNYC - 8/16/2010, 12:37 PM
I respect his decision to sacrifice the 3D so that the audience can enjoy a quality movie. I'm really looking forward to watching this movie.
EdGross
EdGross - 8/16/2010, 12:40 PM
Thanks! He continues to impress me more and more as he discusses the film and his approach to it.
ManThing
ManThing - 8/16/2010, 12:44 PM
Thanks for sharing this with us, Ed.

Sounds like a wise decision to me. So here's my plan as of right now. The fist time I see it, will be at the IMAX in 3D. Then the next two times I see it will be the next day @ the regular theater. Then after that whenI start to feel like dragging my friends along maybe I will hit the 3D one more time if it's worth it.

Yep. It's a plan.
Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon - 8/16/2010, 12:45 PM
I don't have the option of 3D.

All of my theater's movies come in glorious 2D. :D
Brashlight
Brashlight - 8/16/2010, 12:47 PM
MaxJaybo@ don't worry your not missing anything. the 3D fad is moronic.
thunderforce
thunderforce - 8/16/2010, 12:58 PM
I just dont get that cameron can make great movies filmed in 3d but no one else can .
ROMACK
ROMACK - 8/16/2010, 1:04 PM
Good. I don't think 3D suits this film well. Joe Johnston is a good director who is very good at "Period Pieces". He will surprise alot people.
Upupandaway
Upupandaway - 8/16/2010, 1:04 PM
Go Joe!!! He makes sense. Not a big fan of 3D. Avatar was a fine novelty, but it's starting to wear off.

@Thunderforce- I think Cameron made it work because he had to. Avatar was just a big tech demo of what a lot of research and money was put into. It had to look good to justify the cost involved. Otherwise, we'd see panhandler Cameron.
Brashlight
Brashlight - 8/16/2010, 1:07 PM
thunderforce@ its not that noone else can't its that noone else wants to put up the kind of money that they put up for avatar. It cost and estimated 280 to 310 million to make with 150 million in promotions. studios want to make movies cheap and sell big. only on rare occassions do you get a studio to put up that kind of money on a project to make it great. Cameron is established as a box office success so they don't mind puting up that kind of dough for his movies because they know they will get a huge return. So in summary its not that they can't its that they wont.
FrankLeeGitnit
FrankLeeGitnit - 8/16/2010, 1:10 PM
comicb00kguy
comicb00kguy - 8/16/2010, 1:13 PM
I've certainly got my issues with this movie (starting with that horrible outfit Cap is wearing), but I'm glad to see that we have at least one director who is not falling for this stupid 3D fad.
KeithM
KeithM - 8/16/2010, 1:13 PM
@thunderforce: But Cameron didn't make a great movie filmed in 3D. He made an average movie look great in 3D. Big difference.

I'm guessing you didn't even bother reading the actual article, because Johnston gives extremely good reasons why they're doing it the way they are. And he also points out that quite a bit of Avatar was actually shot in 2D and converted later, but you don't notice because the shots were carefully planned for that ahead of time (unlike many of the post conversions we're seeing now).

The difference between the way Cameron did it for Avatar and Johnston's doing for Cap is that they're planning the shots to be converted right from the beginning, whereas movies like Clash only decided to add it at the last minute AFTER all the shots had been composed and shot as an afterthought and was therefore badly done.

Shooting it in 3D would have been more expensive and therefore would have meant less sets, extras, vehicles and scenes and would have made some of his shots more difficult or impossible to get as he wanted, because of the technical limitations of the 3D cameras.

I'm not a fan of 3D for the sake of it, but at least if they're going to do it, planning it properly from the outset is better than the alternative.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 8/16/2010, 1:18 PM
Great work Ed! I had some major doubt about Johnston but he's saying all the right things so far which has me feeling a hell of a lot more positive! (not to mention the awesome cast he's put together!)
EdGross
EdGross - 8/16/2010, 1:19 PM
Yeah, it definitely sounds like he's pulling this project together nicely. Really looking forward to it.
jazzman
jazzman - 8/16/2010, 1:20 PM


have u guys heard on theplaylist.blogspot.com they a new issue of 'Entertainment Weekly' were they a interview with James Cameron and he said The Hurt Locker Would Have Been Better in 3D.

heres what he said

"I think [The Hurt Locker] would have been better in 3D. Absolutely. It wouldn’t have been hugely better in 3D, but I’m talking a future where you don’t have to put ‘in 3D’ on the movie poster anymore, the same way you don’t put ‘in color’ on posters anymore."

if you want to read more heres the link

http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2010/08/james-cameron-says-hurt-locker-would.html





DogsOfWar
DogsOfWar - 8/16/2010, 1:25 PM
Good stuff Ed! That was a great explanation of filming in 3D vs post conversion. Makes sense if they are shooting with that intention. That is where Clash of the Titans failed miserably.
LOL
LOL - 8/16/2010, 1:42 PM
@jazzman.... I never liked The Hurt Locker... I could care even less if it was in 3D. My cousin is a war vet from the Gulf War and he couldn't stand watching THL because it reminded him too much of some of his buddies that died over there. THL may be the most "real" war movie most people ever saw to date but there are a few that actually did the time in the real battlefield that don't like to be reminded of some memories.

As for 3D, its just a fad that keeps coming and going... I could care less about 3D especially if what comes out is crap. A good 3D movie done right, ok I am fine with that... but even 3D would suck balz if the story's trash, it won't save the movie at all regardless of the fact. Some of us can't even watch 3D at all, like my kid niece who got caught in a car accident due to a drunk @ssh@t to no fault of her own and is now blind in one eye due to shrapnel.... 3D don't do jack for people like her.
juggy4711
juggy4711 - 8/16/2010, 1:44 PM
Until they stop releasing movies in 2D all this bitching about 3D is just stupid. The 3D in Avatar was the only thing that impressed me. That said I will most likely be watching 99% of flics in 2D.
jazzman
jazzman - 8/16/2010, 2:09 PM
@LOL

u could say that for every war movie out there aswell. some people wont watch WW2 movies cause of family and friends lost love ones. anyway James Cameron feels movies like THL or even other war movies will benefit to be in 3D his ego has gone big.

i agree 3D is fad the problem with the technology is alot of people i know get headache and they hating wearing the glasses. the technology they should try and learn for films IMO is 3D hologram.

skidz
skidz - 8/16/2010, 2:24 PM
Good call on his part, this movie is definitely NOT a movie that needs 3D treatment.
KeithM
KeithM - 8/16/2010, 2:27 PM
@jazzman: His ego IS big, without a doubt - I don't think you'll get much argument there. :) But I think his point is that sooner or later, ALL movies will be made in 3D and the fact that it's 3D won't even be worth mentioning, just as being in "COLOR" used to be a big thing once upon a time, but now it's just the norm.

It'll be a long time before old-fashioned 2D dies out, for sure, but he might have a point in the context of the evolution of the medium. It'll only happen when it stops being a 'gimmick' and the ticket prices become 'normalised' rather than nearly twice the price of a normal ticket now - and, as you say, we can get rid of the glasses.

And we're not that far away either:
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/3DTV-autostereoscopic-CES,review-1490.html

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/06/microsoft-develops-lens-for-3d-displays-without-3d-glasses.ars

No holodecks yet though. ;)
jazzman
jazzman - 8/16/2010, 2:39 PM
@KeithM

but i found it funny he saying The Hurt Locker would be better in 3D. you know The Hurt Locker was done by his ex-wife maybe he cant take that she bet him in some awards.

3D has sort of been forced on to people too quickly to be honest. im not against 3D movies but they need to perfect the technology even more were people dont have to wear 3D glasses. the only 3D movie i watched was Avatar i enjoyed the movie but my friend had issues cause he wear glasses he does not like wearing contacts when he watch the movie with his 3D glasses he had abit of problem watching the movie.
Joker08
Joker08 - 8/16/2010, 2:54 PM
@jazzman:
Thanks for posting the link to that - I probably wouldn't have seen it otherwise.

Cameron is a hack. I know alot of people love the guy - but his films are so watered down and cliched that they become too accessible, which is why I think they do so well at the box-office. Avatar was the most predictable movie I've seen in my entire life. Atmospherically it was this huge achievement - visually it was so vast and beautiful and it was done on such a huge scale. But in terms of storytelling the guy blows balls.

I know just from CBM that alot of people still want the guy to direct a Spider-Man movie - but if you read the leaked script that he wrote for his proposed Spider-Man film, I swear by the end of you'd be begging for another Spider-Man 3... The source material was butchered beyond belief. He made so many unecessary changes for no reason that it almost wasn't a Spider-Man movie at all.

But I digress. Thank you for this article Ed :)
KeithM
KeithM - 8/16/2010, 2:59 PM
@jazzman: Absolutely. His ego is definitely doing most of the talking, but he does have a point if you look through the bs. :)

As you say, 3D will only become viable properly when the technology becomes better developed, more affordable, and less hassle for the viewer.

It's definitely on its way though. If you read the first link I posted, some manufacturers of the glasses-less 3D TVs they're developing have even developed a process where 2D movies and games are converted 'on-the-fly' into 3D as you watch/play.

Things like this are the big difference compared to the 3D gimmicks in the past and why it's more likely to become the norm now, sooner or later (whether we like it or not :)).
sexfoodcomics
sexfoodcomics - 8/16/2010, 3:15 PM
hey makes good points about conversion and 3d except for say " i find that after 10min i forget im watching 3D." Thats the entire point of a correctly done 3D movie. is to be so immersed that you forget its 3D. no body wants to watch a 3D film where they are being reminded every 3 minutes that its 3D movie by things popping off the screen at them. Avatar should be the standard of what 3D should look like whether its shot that way or converted,

And another thing. Johnston complained about the added time to production from the 3d camera system, but i noticed he said it takes time to change the LENSES, as in plural. the Avatar camera system did not have 2 lenses. it had one and split the image via an internal prism i think. So maybe he should try shooting 3D for the next movie with James Cameron's camera system.
jazzman
jazzman - 8/16/2010, 3:21 PM
@Joker08

true Avatar was the most predictable movie it was pocahontas in space LOL. Avatar was only about visually the storytelling was not that great but to be honest all his storytelling in movies are not good. did not know there was a leak script for his Spider-Man.

@KeithM
your right, im reading them links these are interesting thanks for them KeithM

HotHead
HotHead - 8/16/2010, 6:20 PM
grif@ you are a f*got. i mean its ok for you to not want to see thes films in 3d but the fact that you strait up tell everyone is just idiocracy.

same goes for you tevavizion and any other low life who keeps b*tchin about chriss evens as cap you all know all the other choises were bullsh*t. and your never going to se evenns non comic work because your to insisnint( i know some of you will and join the pro side). your probably going to go on a rampage when jonny depp isnt cast as docter strange(whicth he wont leee becaus hes to expensive and people dont want to see him leeding a cbm so loive with it). once again do you peoplee have any real life?
HotHead
HotHead - 8/16/2010, 7:00 PM
lol grif you sound like sucth in idiot its comical.
Bryanferryfan
Bryanferryfan - 8/16/2010, 8:03 PM
HERE WE GO AGAIN.....AS AN EXPERIMENT, AVATAR, WORKED FINE....HOWEVER, I WAS BORED TO TEARS WATCHING IT.... 3D WAS ALWAYS A NOVELTY.... IT WAS USED BASICALLY TO GET KIDS TO SEE REALLY BAD B-MOVIES BACK IN THE LATE 50'S THRU THE 70'S. EVEN LOCAL TV STATIONS WOULD BROADCAST FILMS(MOSTLY BAD KUNG FU, CHEESY SCI-FI OR B-MOVIE HORROR FILMS)IN A 3D SIGNAL SO BAD THAT EITHER THE 3D GLASSES DIDN'T WORK OR THE SIGNAL WAS TO WEAK TO ENJOY 3D. I STILL BELIEVE IT'S A NOVELTY AND ANY FOOL WHO SPENDS 3 TO 4 THOUSAND DOLLARS ON A 3D TV AND BLU-RAY DISC PLAYER IS EXACTLY THAT..... A FOOL.... STICK WITH 2D IT'S WORKED WELL FOR 100 OR SO YEARS AND COUNTING.... TRUST ME I'M THE SUNSCREEN....OOPS! I MEAN BRYANFERRYFAN.
UncleDrew
UncleDrew - 8/16/2010, 9:12 PM
Good choice cause only Avatar was worth it in 3D but that was it.
DasBoot
DasBoot - 8/16/2010, 9:48 PM
I'll watch both versions. Probably twice each lol
Phileo26
Phileo26 - 8/16/2010, 10:58 PM
I am really excited that Joe is filming in 2D and converting, it shows that they are more concerned with making a quality movie instead of just making the most money! I also think that by planning on converting from the begining will make it all ok.
LOL
LOL - 8/17/2010, 1:29 AM
@jazzman true... with today's research into the holography field, they should at least try making it truly "3D" - but that is still a ways off even though the tech is slowly making its way there, so what we have is optical illusion 3D at the moment by using 3D glasses and it requires us humans to actually have two working eyes to "see" it to work... that's where the headache comes in for some people that can't stand it for very long, and its not applicable to people with a lack of depth perception. I would welcome 3D wholeheartedly when people that can't fully enjoy 3D currently start enjoying them without the bad side effects and the need of having two fully working eyes, like my niece who's only got one.

And yeah, I quite agree that James Cameron's ego has gone through the roof thanks to his success in Avatar and its overhyped-ness. He's good, but he isn't all that.
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