We are all amazed by the news that Robert Downey Jr. will be in Capt 3 and that Marvel is aiming for the Civil War storyline.
Here are some ideas and speculations for what Marvel could do in the coming years with their Cinematic Universe. Keep in mind that all that you are about to read is just my ideas; none of these things was confirmed.
I don’t think that Captain America 3 will be based on the Civil War storyline, and I don’t think that the civil war will be coming in 2016.
I think that we will start getting some seeds for the civil war, we might even get a fight scene between Captain America and Iron Man, but I don’t think that the actual battle between Marvel’s heroes will happen in Captain America 3; I think it will happen only in Avengers 3, but it will be very different from the comics.
The Captain America movies had become somewhat of a set-up for the rest Marvel movies. The First Avenger set up the Avengers movie with the cube and everything, and it’s obvious that Winter Solider has changed the whole MCU, so I believe that the 3
rd movie will have a similar impact on the movies that come after it, and this time it will be the Civil War storyline.
Since most of the superheroes in these movies don’t really have secret identities the whole registration act won’t be about identities, and instead it will be about the fact that the superheroes must work for the government or else they will be considers to be criminals.
I think that Marvel will need to introduce few more heroes before they can do the civil war thing, but we in phase 3 we will be at a point that there will be enough heroes out there to be fighting each other.
Now I know that some people will say that you can’t do a civil war without Spider-Man, X-Men and other heroes that Marvel don’t own, but other than Spider-Man (I will touch on the in a moment), Marvel don’t really need the X-Men or anyone else.
I don’t think that Marvel want to have about 100 heroes in Avengers 3, too many characters always means a bad thing in comic-books movies.
However, just look on how many heroes the Marvel world will have by the time we get to Avengers 3: Iron Man (with different suits), Captain America, Thor, Hulk, Black Widow, Hawkeye, War Machine, Bucky, Falcon, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Vision, Ant-Man, Wasp, Doctor Strange, the Guardians of the Galaxy (that will have some new members), Nick Fury, Maria Hill, maybe some friends from Asgard, maybe Black Panther, maybe Ms. Marvel, maybe some heroes from the Netflix shows, maybe some heroes from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., and maybe even more heroes. Over 40 characters, that’s a lot of heroes already.
I don’t really know who will be on Iron Man’s side, and who will be on Captain America’s side, but it will be very cool to see the tagline: “Whose Side Are You On?” coming to life on the big screen.
And now the Spider-Man problem. I know that Spider-Man plays a big role in the civil war storyline, and we all want to see him in the Marvel movies, but that ain’t going to happen.
First of all, Spider-Man is Sony's, and they won’t give him back to Marvel, especially because Sony has some money problems, and their movie department is something that makes them some good cash, they won’t just sell Marvel the rights to Spider-Man.
How much money Sony will get for him? How much Marvel is willing to pay? 50 million? 1 billion? 3? 10? Sony won’t sell Spider-Man, because the Spider-Man franchise still makes them lots of ca$h.
Will Sony let Marvel rent Spider-Man? Well the money question is still there: how much money Marvel will pay for only one character. Not to talk about how they will share the profits, it won’t be 50-50, are Sony going to settle for 10-20 percent of profit? Not really.
And does Marvel really want to use a character that they don’t actually control; are Sony want to be in a position where Marvel tells them what to do with Spider-Man?
But the really big question is: does Marvel really needs Spider-Man? Well, not really.
For a long time Spider-Man was one of the biggest and well known characters that the Marvel comics had, but that all changed when less known characters like Iron Man, Captain America, Thor and others (that the general audience barely knew anything about them, and most didn’t even knew that they existed) started making billions of dollars.
And after Guardians of the Galaxy, who could say anything about the success that Marvel has with their movies, even comic-book fans don’t know much about them, and yet GOTG did almost 700 million dollars at the box-office. So financially, Marvel doesn’t need any help from Spider-Man.
Now will Marvel try getting Spider-Man just to please the fans? No! mainly because only people who read the comics know that Spider-Man had a big part in the Civil War.
Marvel has 3 kinds of audience: The ones that read the comics, the ones who didn’t read any of the comics but still are big fans of the movies, and the general audience that just enjoy watching cool movies and already know that the Marvel movies are cool so they go and watch them.
Now I’m a fan of the comics and the Civil War storyline, I do agree that it will be cool to see Spider-Man appearing in the Marvel movies, but I also agree that Marvel don’t really need Spider-Man.
They won’t really follow the comics, because they have their own ideas for the movies, and this is why Spider-Man won’t fit in the MCU, not after Sony already established the character, so how would it work if Spider-Man will suddenly appear in the MCU? Would it be Andrew Garfield? Will it be explained that the Sony universe is some parallel universe? Will we be getting yet another reboot? I don’t think so.
Same thing goes with Fox, I like what Fox was able to do with the X-Men in the last few years, and I hope that the Fantastic Four movie will be good. And for some reason I hope that Sony will be able to create their own Spider-Man movie universe, because this way we are getting about 4-6 Marvel movies a year (2 from Marvel, 2 from Fox and 1-2 from Sony), if Marvel will own both Spider-Man and X-men, those numbers will change very fast and we will be getting only 2-3 Marvel movies.
Maybe 15-20 years from now Marvel will get the right back from Sony, and they will a full reboot to the MCU, but right now, I think it’s better for Marvel not to go and try get Spider-Man back. If Sony and Marvel strike some kind of a deal I will be very happy, if Sony will sell Spider-Man back to Marvel I will be very happy, but what I’m trying to say is that Marvel don’t really need Spider-Man.
So anyway, here is what I hope will happen with Marvel’s Civil War:
I believe that Avengers: Age of Ultron won’t have a happy ending. The Avengers will defeat Ultron, but in a big price.
I really do believe that Hulk will be exiled by Ultron, and he will be sent into space.
Plus, Ultron will almost bring the apocalypse on mankind, so humans won’t be very happy. The world will lose faith in their heroes, after all the destruction that was caused in their battle with Ultron, so superheroes are no longer being idolized.
The Avengers themselves will have a rift, as some members (like Captain America) will be angry with Iron Man for creating Ultron in the first place. So the Avengers will split, Thor will go back to Asgard, Capt will start a new team of Avengers, and Tony will be little lost and he might turn to the bottle.
This also will play a role in Ant-Man, and maybe in the end of the movie, Ant-Man will join Captain America’s new Avengers team.
Captain America 3 will be having the sub-title: “
Fallen Son”, but it won’t be about the death of Captain America.
We will meet the new Avengers, and they will be: Captain America, Falcon, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Black Widow, Ant-Man and maybe the Vision (maybe some other heroes will be in that team too).
But Capt’s team will be an underground team; they will be operating from the shadows, because superheroes are being targeted by the government.
Maybe Capt will be on a mission to recruit other heroes to create a team that will protect the world, even if the world doesn’t want this protection, and maybe they will meet Black Panther and Ms. Marvel along the way. I don’t know what they will do with Bucky, but maybe he will join the team at some point.
The government will have a new agency that its job is to monitor superheroes. War Machine will actually be working for this new agency because he is a solider. This new agency will be the new S.H.I.E.L.D.
Tony will be at his lowest. He will blame himself for the whole thing with Ultron, but then he will join the government, becoming the new director of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Tony will come to the realization that heroes cannot go rouge and someone needs to motorize these heroes. This all will be because of Ultron, after Avengers 2 Tony will stop being Iron Man, and then he will see what normal people see. Ever since the events of the first Avengers movie the world was almost destroyed about 3-4 times, Hydra almost took over the world, alien, gods, super-soldiers, monsters – somebody has to keep all of these things in check. And Tony understands that he most try to be the one to do so.
Eventually Tony and Captain America might clash over this, but the Civil War won’t start yet. Whatever the plot of Captain America 3 will be, it will set up phase 3 big time. I don’t think that the Captain will die in this movie.
Who knows, maybe the main villain could be The Mandarin (
the real one thing time), and Capt’s team will try to take him down, Tony will try to do the same, and that may cause Captain America and Iron Man to clash over it.
All the next phase 3 movies will be setting up the Civil War storyline.
I don’t know how much of it will be in the Doctor Strange movie, but we might get a post-credits scene where Tony Stark visits Doc Strange and tells him that he wants him on his team (like that first post-credits scene in the first Iron Man movie, with Tony and Nick Fury).
In 2017 we will get Guardians of the Galaxy 2 and I also believe that we will get Thor 3. It’s good, because it will take a one year break from setting up Civil War, and instead we will start seeing the set up for Thanos. Maybe GOTG 2 could have some elements from Planet Hulk, as the Guardians will meet Hulk in space (that is if in Avengers 2 Hulk will actually be exiled into space by Ultron).
If Hulk will be in GOTG 2 it can not only be very cool, and can make Hulk/ Bruce Banner be the bridge between the Guardians of the Galaxy and the Avengers. Hulk will find out about Thanos, and then with the help from GOTG he will go to warn Earth about Thanos.
Avengers 3 will be split into 2 parts. Part I will be in 2018 and Part II will be a 2019.
Part I will be called: “
Avengers: Civil War”, and it will be based on the Civil War storyline, but with many changes.
Part II will be called: “
Avengers: Infinity War”, and it will be a mix of Infinity Gauntlet , Infinity War and Secret Wars.
In Part I we will get a war between heroes, as the tension between Captain America and Iron Man will run wild, and the two will clash. Every hero will chose his side, and we will get a war.
Part I will end on a cliffhanger when suddenly all the heroes will be teleported to “Battleworld”. This will be Thanos plan to take Earth’s heroes out.
In Part II we will get the Infinity War, as the heroes will have to go pass their differences and stop Thanos. Hulk and the Guardians of the Galaxy will show up to help them. And finally, everything that started in the first Iron Man movie will come into play. Plus it will be cool to see the heroes fight Thanos on some alien planet, instead of yet another big battle in some city.
Anyway, all of these are just my ideas; we don’t even know that we actually getting Civil War, since it wasn’t confirmed by Marvel. However this goes down, I believe that it will be amazing. My friends, we truly live in the age of miracles.