Max Landis Weighs In On Josh Trank's FANTASTIC FOUR Quandry

Max Landis Weighs In On Josh Trank's FANTASTIC FOUR Quandry

Director Josh Trank's Chronicles screenwriter, Max Landis, weighs in on the bashing of Fox's Fantastic Four by fans and critics alike and the remark from Trank that studio interference resulted in a bad movie.

By MarkJulian - Aug 07, 2015 01:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four

Yesterday,  Josh Trank may have committed a serious, industry no-no, when he cited studio interferrence for the reason why the Fantastic Four reboot is not very well-recieved by fans.  Trank implied that his original vision for Marvel's First Family was actually a very good film. Will we ever learn what Trank's initial concept entailed before producers and Fox execs made adjustments? That remains to be seen.  It will be interesting to see what his comment does to career moving forward. It also doesn't help that the critic bashing and Trank's comments come on the heels of rumors that swirled around the entire production that Trank was in over his head and unprofessional.  


Weighing in on this subject is Max Landis, screenwriter of Trank's first, smash-hit sci-fi film, Chronicles. In a series of tweets, Landis comes to Trank's support but doesn't completely excuse him of the public mess that has become of the Fox tentpole that has undeniable talents such as Michael B. Jordan, Miles Teller and Kate Mara. Said Landis----
 

 

"HEY, it’s 1 AM. You know what, [frick] it. Let’s be real here.  Chronicle was an incredibly rare and easy ride. I loved writing the script. I enjoyed our producer, John Davis, and our exec, Steve. I also loved collaborating with Josh, who I think is brilliant, and whose ideas inspired my script. I fought hard for him to direct. But Chronicle was a complete fluke. We had so much control because the movie was, in relation to other movies that year, TINY. Some holes opened up in Fox’s slate and Chronicle was cheap and unique, so they were kind enough to make it. Only took six months.  At the time, I was like ‘THIS IS F**KING INCREDIBLE I CAN’T BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING.’ I’d sold scripts, but it was my first greenlight. Josh, who’d been for-hire editor and whose only experience behind the camera had been a web series, was a smart, fun collaborator.  During the shooting of the film, I had almost no input, but I was lucky in that the studio and Josh stuck astonishingly tight to my script. But again, even this is a fluke. It was an original idea, a dark character movie with a first time director. Fluke. Freak of nature. But I didn’t know that and I’m sure Josh didn’t know that either. In the five years since I sold Chronicle, I’ve learned the hard way.  You take huge hits in this industry, creatively, but that’s only after you’ve been given the opportunity to take huge swings, which is rare. A movie like Fantastic Four, an assignment with a lot riding on it, was always going to have a tremendous amount of cooks in the kitchen. People always ask me when I’m gonna write a superhero movie. I have. I’ve gotten those jobs. They’re very intense and stressful.  As a writer, I’ve been lucky to work on many, many projects – and seen how different and how hard each road can be – for five and a half years. Josh didn’t get that chance, and his second major project, after one with total freedom, was one with intense oversight. So I don’t think anyone’s wrong or right, necessarily, and I don’t imagine anyone cares about my opinion. But I do think it’s important to say that if you’re not prepared going in to not FIGHT like hell, but WORK like hell, it’s gonna get ugly.  No one is trying to make a bad movie. This job is only very occasionally romantic. Don’t let it own you, try not to let it hurt you. Because sometimes it’s so much f**king fun. But it’s still a job."

 

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Wannabe
Wannabe - 8/7/2015, 1:37 PM
This is a total disaster.

Punish these fools, Feige.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 8/7/2015, 1:38 PM
Hulksta
Hulksta - 8/7/2015, 1:39 PM
Trank is whining because he couldn't direct a film. If he can't do his job he should apply to flip burgers or something.
Wannabe
Wannabe - 8/7/2015, 1:39 PM
When is Max Landis going to write a superhero film? He knew about the Sony-Marvel deal months in advance so he must be connected to Marvel in some form.
Superspecialawesomeguy
Superspecialawesomeguy - 8/7/2015, 1:42 PM
Homie talking real ish
ALegendaryPanda
ALegendaryPanda - 8/7/2015, 1:43 PM
I love how people are so quick to jump down Trank's throat and tell him to "quit whining".

I'd be curious to see how some of you would react if a studio told you to remove a giant portion of the movie you were working on and basically made the movie unrecognizable in the end..
blackandyellow
blackandyellow - 8/7/2015, 1:48 PM
Gus may be senile and drunk, but he's right about Landis. That guy is a schmuck.
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 8/7/2015, 1:49 PM
Yeah I gotta side with Trank here. It's downright weird for fans to be so defensive of a corporate studio and a faceless brand instead of giving an actual human being the benefit of the doubt. Especially when, by all accounts, he really DID have his vision for his movie completely messed up by studio interference.

It's not like this is without merit - almost EVERYBODY agrees that the 3rd act of the film is completely at odds with the rest of the movie. And when you factor in how fan outrage actually did have an impact on aspects of Doom's character, then that just makes it even easier to believe Trank's side of the story.
sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 8/7/2015, 1:49 PM
But Trank dont burn your bridges. Now he might not get a job with Fox again.
Wannabe
Wannabe - 8/7/2015, 1:49 PM
I blame FOX more than Trank because FOX makes sub-par CBMs.
koolaidbag
koolaidbag - 8/7/2015, 1:50 PM
Hey guy's you know, on the bright side; rotten tomatoes wise; we haven't had a comic book movie this bad since 2012's Ghost rider: Spirit of vengeance. So it's nice to think about the fact that sickeningly bad comic book movies like these, with no redeeming factors are becoming rare.
Emblemmaniac
Emblemmaniac - 8/7/2015, 1:50 PM
I have said before and i say it again. 1s this F4 movie bad? Yes i do think so. Worse then movies like Batman&Robin Steel or Catwoman? F-no. And since this probably won't get a sequel, i beg you both Warner and Marvel. Please pick up these actors and give them another shot at a superhero movie. They are to good to be wasted in a movie like this
PeterDarker121
PeterDarker121 - 8/7/2015, 1:51 PM
Was Max drunk when he posted this?
Franshu
Franshu - 8/7/2015, 1:51 PM
"Because sometimes it’s so much f**king fun. But it’s still a job."
Amen to that.
sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 8/7/2015, 1:52 PM
I agree with his issues, with studio interference. Blasting them over social media isnt the best idea either. Especially being a relative newcomer to Hollywood.
Jere
Jere - 8/7/2015, 1:55 PM
I love Max Landis, he is just the right amount of asshole. And he's a genius.
Gruff
Gruff - 8/7/2015, 1:55 PM
Very unwise move on Tranks part to try and publicly remove all personal responsibility from this film. His career may be shot but he just possibly finished it once and for all.

Sounds like he wasn't ready for a studio production with a lot of other collaboration. Not all independent film makers make good studio crew and he was obviously not responding well to the Fox environment. He was thrown in the deep end too soon and should have been mentored and prepared properly.

Fox probably tried to do what Fiege is so good at doing and that's discovering great talent and making them shine. The difference though is that Marvel has a clear road map for their universe which all directors producers and writers adhere to. Fox obviously doesn't and when seeing the direction Trank was heading in fought to redirect him. Fox is notoriously a bad universe builder.

Problems in both camps!

FANTASTIC FOUR TO FIEGE!!!
GhostDog
GhostDog - 8/7/2015, 1:58 PM
Thing94
Thing94 - 8/7/2015, 1:59 PM
Josh and Max,

Cool stories bros.
Tevii
Tevii - 8/7/2015, 2:00 PM
When there is so much negativity around one guy with Fantastic Four and Star Wars Rogue, then you eventually have to come to terms with the fact that Josh Trank is the only common denominator
wookiefit
wookiefit - 8/7/2015, 2:01 PM
First of all, I have no desire to see FF and am not going to.

Now that that is out of the way, I'm confused by why some think Max sucks. A screen writer has about 1 in 10 scripts get picked up, and then only 1 in 10 of those get made after many re-writes. That's why you always see "in development" or "in pre-production". Not only that, but studios now hire several screen writers to write several rough drafts to see what they like. So he might have written a few comic book movie scripts with producers' inputs and was paid for them even though they weren't made.
McGee
McGee - 8/7/2015, 2:02 PM
DTor91
DTor91 - 8/7/2015, 2:03 PM
@ALegendaryPanda

Let's give him the benefit of doubt and say he really did have a unique vision (even if it was most likely totally nothing like the FF we all know.) Let's say there really was a great version of this movie we'll never see.

It doesn't excuse that he comes across like a whiny kid. That tweet shouldn't have been put up in the first place. It was completely and utterly unprofessional. Admit the loss, take the hit, and move on. Don't start making excuses and pointing fingers, especially the day right before the official release. First off, it's biting the hand that feeds you, and secondly, it's total disrespect to not only the cast but the crew that worked on the movie. You want to talk about the problems that went on behind the scenes years from now? That's fine. Everyone does that. But literally the day before release? It's no wonder he won't be directing a Star Wars spin off. That one tweet could have been 100% true, but it revealed a whole lot more about Josh Trank himself than it does Fox.

And the fact is whether Fox had more of a final say in the end or not, this is a studio film regardless. If the guy wanted his 'vision,' why sign on to do a Fox film that happens to be a Marvel property? I'm sure he had a lot more on his mind than just 'vision' when he signed the dotted line.
BlackPhillip
BlackPhillip - 8/7/2015, 2:03 PM
All these big budget superhero movies have studio interference. You either do the best that you can and give us an awesome film or whine about it like Trank or Whedon.
SuperiorMrGod
SuperiorMrGod - 8/7/2015, 2:03 PM
"Every time a movie bombs the director and/or his fans wanna blame "studio interference". Grow a pair and admit that you're an inexperienced director and that the project was too much to handle"

Wow, that made my brain hurt. There IS a lot of studio interference in big budget films. You would have to be an idiot to deny that. And hey, why take credit for a horrible meal when you weren't the only one that cooked it?
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