AVENGERS: THE KANG DYNASTY Loses Title As MCU Overhaul Enlists New THUNDERBOLTS And THE FANTASTIC FOUR Writers

AVENGERS: THE KANG DYNASTY Loses Title As MCU Overhaul Enlists New THUNDERBOLTS And THE FANTASTIC FOUR Writers

We have some major updates on the MCU's future, including news on Avengers: The Kang Dynasty, The Fantastic Four, Thunderbolts, Agatha: Darkhold Diaries, and Marvel Studios' future. Check it out...

By JoshWilding - Feb 21, 2024 10:02 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Studios
Source: The Hollywood Reporter

Last year, Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania was supposed to kick off Phase 5 in style; instead, the movie served as an example of why a blockbuster shouldn't be shot on The Volume and made some major blunders with its portrayal of the MCU's supposed new big bad, Kang the Conqueror. 

A difficult year followed, with Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 the highlight in a year which included missteps with the likes of Secret Invasion and The Marvels. Now, The Hollywood Reporter reveals that Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige is "[recalibrating] the creative direction behind the scenes."

The Fantastic Four has tapped Eric Pearson to polish the reboot's script thanks to his reputation for helping movies like Thor: Ragnarok and Black Widow successfully cross the finish line. 

Joanna Calo, the showrunner of The Bear, has also been hired to sort out Thunderbolts' script. The trade notes that, in previous drafts, the story "centres on villains and antiheroes going on a mission that was supposed to end with their deaths."

As for the fallout from Jonathan Majors' trial, the plan now is indeed to rewrite both Avengers: The Kang Dynasty and Avengers: Secret Wars to "either minimize [Kang] or excise him entirely." In fact, the former is going to be retitled to remove Kang's name, moves which were being put in place even before the controversy thanks to the Ant-Man threequel's poor critical and commercial performance. 

On the small screen, there's some good news for Agatha: Darkhold Diaries, a series which only needed one of five planned days of reshoots. Marvel Studios is also looking to increase the power given to showrunners, bringing executives vying for power back under Feige's control. 

It's a creative retooling of the MCU which will hopefully put the studio back on the right track. While Ironheart, for example, has been shot, it has no release date because creatives are being given more breathing room; Disney also wants audiences to miss the MCU a little after being bombarded with a seemingly endless run of TV shows on its streaming platform. 

"They're not going to give up," one source says of Marvel Studios. "They want to make something great."

It feels like the franchise is heading in the right direction and this summer's Deadpool 3 will be a crucial next step. The expectation right now is that it will be the first MCU movie since Spider-Man: No Way Home to surpass $1 billion worldwide, a fitting reminder that Marvel Studios remains a dominant force in Hollywood despite "superhero fatigue" talk.

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harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 2/21/2024, 10:38 AM
"New Writers"
bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/21/2024, 10:47 AM
@harryba11zack - also Josh just copied and pasted this article like he always does. Imagine NEVER writing in article in your own words, just endless lists and BS
mountainman
mountainman - 2/21/2024, 10:42 AM
@DrReedRichards - It’s such a gross mentality that so many people see admitting fault and making changes to be negative things.

In our personal lives, those are admirable behaviors. But for some reason with corporate or political leaders, they tend to never admit fault and double down when they are wrong far too often.

I’m hoping the MCU can right the ship. I’ve disliked most of post-Endgame MCU, but I want to love it again. I’m not wishing for its failure like some out there are.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/21/2024, 10:48 AM
@mountainman - facts
mountainman
mountainman - 2/21/2024, 11:02 AM
@bobevanz - Sometimes we agree and it makes my day brighter!
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 2/21/2024, 12:23 PM
@mountainman -
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 2/21/2024, 10:39 AM
If the internet has taught me anything, it's that recognition of failure and repositioning one's self are indications of weakness. What Kevin should have done is go on for years and years with this proven to be faulty slate, and then blame the audiences who don't show up for being gullible mainstream sheep. Oh, and something about bought reviews too.

Yup, that should do it.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/21/2024, 10:49 AM
@DrReedRichards - the Principal Skinner route lol
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 2/21/2024, 11:06 AM
@bobevanz -

ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 2/21/2024, 11:55 AM
@DrReedRichards - it’s too much course correcting imo , we saw how the micromanaging [frick]d up SW and the DC (didn’t help that Snyder had already derailed it)

But I’m for small tweaks this just keeps feeling they’re grasping at straws

Like why change the ant man ending 2 weeks in advance ? Why change the marvels ending ?

And now the thunderbolts who they want to be their movie suicide squad is supposed to survive after like 2 rewrites already

Blade is TBD

Just way too much going and that’s not even including the shows
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 2/21/2024, 12:35 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA -

On one hand, I totally hear your concerns. There is such a thing as over-correcting. On the other hand, I feel like drastic changes like that title drop for Avengers 5 and showrunner overhaul for Thunderbolts are in order to avoid any future micromanaging. Change them now top to bottom, do that they don't turn into franken-edits of their initial ideas, know what I mean?
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 2/21/2024, 1:02 PM
@DrReedRichards - i laughed wayyyyy to hard at this meme
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 2/21/2024, 1:03 PM
@DrReedRichards - I feel you , more organizational change than individual but I’m a little burned on the past tbh we’ll see they earned the benefit of the doubt more than most
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 2/21/2024, 1:09 PM
@MotherGooseUPus -

Spoken
Spoken - 2/21/2024, 10:39 AM
God that's like the fifth or sixth writer on Fantastic Four.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 2/21/2024, 10:40 AM
"Joanna Calo, the showrunner of The Bear, has also been hired to sort out Thunderbolts"



AllsGood
AllsGood - 2/21/2024, 10:42 AM
Marvel Studios New Avengers 5 Movie will be Avengers: World War Hulk.

bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/21/2024, 10:43 AM
@AllsGood - who cares
Spoken
Spoken - 2/21/2024, 10:44 AM
@AllsGood - who cares
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 2/21/2024, 10:46 AM
@AllsGood - who cares
AllsGood
AllsGood - 2/21/2024, 10:46 AM
@bobevanz -
AllsGood
AllsGood - 2/21/2024, 10:50 AM
@WhatIfRickJames - Avengers: (5) World War Hulk.

WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 2/21/2024, 10:51 AM
@AllsGood - yeah, no
soberchimera
soberchimera - 2/21/2024, 11:03 AM
@AllsGood - Meh, I'd rather see a standalone Hulk movie where he fights the U-Foes, Maestro, or Madman.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 2/21/2024, 11:06 AM
@WhatIfRickJames - World War Hulk VS Sentry :)

WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 2/21/2024, 11:13 AM
@AllsGood - yeah, not for me but you do you
AllsGood
AllsGood - 2/21/2024, 11:17 AM
@WhatIfRickJames - World War Hulk makes even Thanos look Puny.

WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 2/21/2024, 11:26 AM
@AllsGood - sez you but again, who cares
SummersEssex
SummersEssex - 2/21/2024, 11:43 AM
@AllsGood - meh
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 2/21/2024, 10:43 AM
Regardless of his personal being & life , I liked Majors as Kang and the variants he portrayed in HWR & Victor Timely…

He made every version felt distinct and authentic imo but I do think it was a mistake to have every variant be portrayed by the same actor when it had been established that they could look different already.

Kang Dynasty is a badass title and I don’t think they need to move away from the character but just recast & better portray him , it’s simple imo.

Anyway besides that , I’m glad they are taking the time to polish and reevaluate their projects now aswell as space them out better…

I don’t know how anyone could have a problem with that but I’m sure atleast one will find a way lol.
Oofenburg
Oofenburg - 2/21/2024, 10:56 AM
@TheVisionary25 - I didn't like his performance as He Who Remains, as I found it too performative and too eccentic. But then once even the trailers for Quantumania started rolling around, and especially the final movie and him as Kang, I appreciated his Loki performance even more. And that goes for Victor Timely as well. For better or worse I wanted to see the Kang storyline play out. Even if they are going to stray away, if they do recast for the time being, it's hard to match Major's intensity.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 2/21/2024, 11:04 AM
@Oofenburg - that’s fair

I saw it as as a man whose gone a bit crazy being at the end of the universe alone

It was definitely eccentric but I enjoyed the energy & charisma he brought to it
Oofenburg
Oofenburg - 2/21/2024, 11:29 AM
@TheVisionary25 - I liked it, but after the fact. As our first introduction to the next big bad, it wasn't my favorite though. But that was just one step in establishing many variants and many different performances, and since he was going to be different every time we saw him, well that was a pretty exciting idea.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 2/21/2024, 11:31 AM
@Oofenburg - I can understand that

It dies throw you off initially
Oofenburg
Oofenburg - 2/21/2024, 12:18 PM
@TheVisionary25 - The death made sense per that character and the purpose he was serving.
SauronthePower
SauronthePower - 2/21/2024, 10:44 AM
Black Widow did not ‘get over the finish line’

Color me non-plussed
bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/21/2024, 10:45 AM
@SauronthePower - yeah that was a charlie brown moment lol
bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/21/2024, 10:44 AM
So now they want to make something great? All it took was a failing streaming service and barely making a profit on the last 5 movies.. GOOD
Scarilian
Scarilian - 2/21/2024, 10:47 AM
@bobevanz -
It's too late though. Deadpool 3 was written pre-strikes. Most the 2025 projects are primarily working on pre-strike scripts or plans also - including Blade which is all about his daughter instead.

The ship has sunk already, what we are seeing is the occasional bubbles floating up from the wreck.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 2/21/2024, 10:59 AM
@Scarilian -


You are so desperate to see marvel fall.🤡



*Its too late though*!!!!


You sound like a kid🤡🤡🤡🤡lol
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