Hollywood Insiders And Executives Weight In On How Marvel Studios And DC Studios Are Currently Faring

Hollywood Insiders And Executives Weight In On How Marvel Studios And DC Studios Are Currently Faring

It's proving to be a difficult period for superhero movies in theaters, and a new report takes a deep dive into how Marvel Studios and DC Studios are performing, at least according to those in Hollywood...

By JoshWilding - Sep 14, 2025 10:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Studios
Source: Variety

Like it or not, superhero fatigue does appear to have set in. Marvel Studios has learned that the hard way, and while DC Studios is off to a solid start with Superman, it's hard to shake the feeling that the $614 million box office hit would have made upwards of $1 billion just a few years ago. 

Variety has shared an analysis of both studios, noting that Captain America: Brave New World, Thunderbolts*, and The Fantastic Four: First Steps "dramatically underperformed" compared to past titles and "barely eked out a profit."

As one agent puts it, the opportunity to join the MCU is "still a crazy, life-changing opportunity" for an actor, but adds, "I don’t have as many clients asking to do one as they were five years ago."

Another executive praises Marvel Studios' shift back to quality over quantity, describing the upcoming Avengers movies as "bulletproof." However, they echoed the thoughts of many fans by stating, "The standalone movies are in trouble, because you feel like you can miss it now." An unnamed director adds, "Any movie could be huge, but nothing is close to a guarantee."

Over to the DCU, despite Superman grossing less worldwide than 2013's Man of Steel, it still surpassed the DCEU's post-pandemic titles with ease. 

As one communications executive shares, "[James] Gunn did the most important thing: The first movie he made was really good. If Batman and Superman are humming at the same time, there’s no limit to what they could do."

Despite that, a marketing executive has some doubts about DC Studios' ability to maintain momentum as we head into 2025. "I wish 'Supergirl' and 'Clayface' weren’t the next ones," they lament. "But it’s a pretty confident first step."

While we wait and see what becomes of the DCU next year, 2026 is shaping up to be a big year for Marvel Studios. Despite being a co-production with Sony Pictures, Spider-Man: Brand New Day is all but guaranteed to succeed next summer, with Avengers: Doomsday bound to similarly succeed in December (even if it ultimately fails to recapture the same level of success as 2019's Avengers: Endgame). 

Looking beyond that, DC Studios will continue to build a new shared world—2027's Man of Tomorrow will be a big step on that front—and Marvel Studios plans to essentially reboot the MCU after Avengers: Secret Wars. That fresh start should put the spotlight back on big-name characters, with some key players likely recast (this isn't a "scoop" as such, but we've heard the hunt is on for a new Iron Man). 

What are your thoughts on the current state of the MCU and DCU? Let us know your thoughts in the comments section.

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SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 9/14/2025, 10:15 AM
I'm genuinely curious how the DC Universe will fair especially with this rumored buyout on the horizon.
TheNewYorkerr
TheNewYorkerr - 9/14/2025, 10:27 AM
@SonOfAGif - 🪦
epc1122
epc1122 - 9/14/2025, 10:27 AM
@SonOfAGif - me too. A lot of what I read i take as pure speculation but from the articles, they seem to think they would stick with Gunn bc it’s so new. DC is a pretty big and I would think starting from scratch again would be confusing, time consuming, and would lose out on money.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 9/14/2025, 10:25 AM
.......badly
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 9/14/2025, 10:27 AM
Wonder Woman should've followed Superman, not Supergirl.
Mrnorth1921
Mrnorth1921 - 9/14/2025, 10:30 AM
@TheJok3r - they had no script. Supergirl was finished and is a great storyline that it is based off.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 9/14/2025, 10:32 AM
@Mrnorth1921 - The issue is that the public will view it more as a side project, rather than the next big thing. Wonder Woman should've been prioritized.
epc1122
epc1122 - 9/14/2025, 10:34 AM
@TheJok3r - speculation on my part but I think Gunn is trying build this new universe by building the families of each main character. First is Superman with 3-4 movies with supergirl in the family and then next is going to be Wonder Woman with 1-4 movies. Gunn is going to save Batman last bc we have the Matt reeves Batman and i think Gunn is really not sure if Pattinson should also be in his universe as well.
epc1122
epc1122 - 9/14/2025, 10:39 AM
@TheJok3r - I don’t think they’ll see it as a side project but a continuation of Superman. I think people may be disappointed that Superman probably isn’t in it or might have a small cameo. I think Gunn is trying to build up Superman and the Superman family since he said the Superman family saga is 3-4 movies. First one was Superman, second one is supergirl, I think Luthor is the third movie and I think the fourth one will be based on Lois.
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 9/14/2025, 10:50 AM
@TheJok3r - I agree, I dont get Gunns comments on just waiting for a good script. There are decades of adaptable storylines that they could use, so it's not like they are stating from scratch. Pick a character and assign a few writers to write their own script, and either pick the best use use elements of multiple. I know the usual thing is just assign one writer but Gunn was put in charge of the DCU in nov, 2022 right? Ana Nogueira was hired by DC Studios to write the new Wonder Woman movie on July 21, 2025. I just dont believe Gunn's statement that hes just waiting for a good script because you have to assign a writer to the script before you can be expecting said script lol Its just his decision to start the process. Superman was fun and all but had flaws, maybe supergirl will good good but having the first 3 movies of superheroes in the DCU be all super family is a bold choice. Obviously not counting clayface as a hero movie because he is a villain

Superman: (Movie): July 11, 2025
Peacemaker Season 2: (TV Series): August 21, 2025
Lanterns: (TV Series): Early 2026
Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow: (Movie): June 26, 2026
Clayface: (Movie): September 11, 2026
Man of Tomorrow: (Movie): July 9, 2027

definitely excited for the lanterns show though
Lokiwasright
Lokiwasright - 9/14/2025, 10:27 AM
Went woke... Again and again and went broke.

FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 9/14/2025, 12:07 PM
@Lokiwasright - So, where all the conservative box office record breakers?


Also, Black Panther is easily the most "woke" project Marvel has ever made and also the highest-grossing solo superhero movie, pre-NWH.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 9/14/2025, 12:36 PM
@FinnishDude - General audiences don’t want liberal OR conservative propaganda in their films, they want to be entertained.
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 9/15/2025, 1:08 AM
@soberchimera - You could call anything propaganda, since all art tries to say something
soberchimera
soberchimera - 9/15/2025, 9:13 AM
@FinnishDude - No, there’s a clear distinction between propaganda with the intent to sway opinion and storytelling with the intent to entertain. Jim Shooter put it very succinctly.
http://youtube.com/shorts/XqcrlmpZmNE?si=E14PkhJ-feDlcbf3
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 9/14/2025, 10:32 AM
Sick of this Gunnverse, DC needs an actual fully comitted reboot, not whatever this muddied crap is. They don't feel distinct enough from the last couple films before Gunn was given the keys.
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