How Batman Fans are Ruining CBM Fightclub

How Batman Fans are Ruining CBM Fightclub

I love the CBM Fightclub. But it would seem our Batman buddies are ruining the whole thing with their blind fanboy votes. Click to come see.

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By VIRILEMAN - Aug 08, 2013 09:08 AM EST
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I love the fight club here. It is one of my favorite things about this site. But why is it that fans of every other character can vote objectively except Batman fans? I was looking at the rankings and came across Batman's wins and it really is just ridiculous.

Here are his wins:

LIZARD | DAREDEVIL | IRON MAN | BLADE | THE CROW | (WANTED) WESLEY GIBSON | MAGNETO | SABRETOOTH | WHIPLASH | SPIDER-MAN | WOLVERINE | BOBA FETT | JAMES BOND | KINGPIN | DR OCTOPUS | MARV | SHADOWCAT | ELEKTRA | HIT-GIRL

Guys like James Bond and the Kingpin I can understand. But how in the world can his fans vote for Batman and still look at themselves in the mirror when he is up against someone like Wolverine, Spider-Man, Blade, Iron Man, or even the Lizard?

Wolverine who is willing to kill and knows MORE fighting styles than Bats! Wolverine is 150 years old after all. He is also stronger, faster, and has unbreakable claws and bones!



Also check out this life action fight. See how the fight would really go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7J1rhn4EhM

And Spider-Man! Spider-Man who is faster, stronger, and smarter. One punch is all it would take to KO Batman. Yes Batman could beat Superman. But that's because all you need is a chunk of rock to beat him. Spider-Man doesn't have such an easily exploitable weakness. Nor does half the other guys on that list he has no business beating, like the Lizard who can heal instantly and could rip him in half in a second. OR MAGNETO! FREAKIN MAGNETO! MAGNETO WHO HAS TAKEN ON THE ENTIRE X-MEN TEAM AND WON BEFORE! He could use the metal in Batman's utility belt and kill him in seconds. But none of this seems to matter to Batman fans. Why? Because he's cool? He is cool.

So I am really asking this question here. Why do his fans vote for him in spite of the fact he would obviously loose at least half of those fights he won in the CBM fight club? He obviously has a lot of fans and they seem to vote for him regardless of whether or not he'd actually win. I don't think it's because they're stupid. Is it because they love him and wish he could hold his own against these guys when in fact he get killed 99% of the time? I'm really trying to understand this.

Just look at the mentality of Batman's fan:





And yes I get that these things are suppose to be tongue in cheek much like the Chuck Norris facts. But a good portion of Batman fans really believe this. They are so blinded by their love of him they have actually argued he could beat someone like Dr. Strange or even the Silver Surfer! I have one word that disproves all the fanboy self delusion: Bane.

If Batman ALWAYS wins, why did Bane almost kill Batman? Bane isn't even all that smart (when compared to guys like Stark or Reed) nor is he all that strong (when compared to guys like the Lizard or Spider-Man.) Not to mention all the other near death encounters he's had going up against guys like the Joker (a guy dressed as a clown with ZERO powers) or the Penguin (a fat guy with ZERO physical prowess) or Scarecrow (A FREAKIN PSYCHIATRIST!)

So in the very least, this article is a plea. Stop ruining the CBM fight club Batfans. Yes, we get that you love Batman. And yes we get that there seem to be a lot of you (or a few of you with a lot of accounts as it would seem sometimes). I am just asking that you try and vote objectively. I love the CBM fight club. But you guys are ruining it. It's sucking all the fun right out of it. From one comic book fan to another, please stop guys. You might actually find yourselves having more fun voting on how the fight would actually go instead of how you WANT the fight to go.

And just for the record I love Batman. I just don't think he's a demigod. I think he's a regular guy who can get his back broken by someone who is a bit stronger and almost as smart. That's what makes him interesting.
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3DWitchHunt
3DWitchHunt - 8/8/2013, 10:15 AM
Hahaha well this convinced me to vote for Batman every time now ;)
3DWitchHunt
3DWitchHunt - 8/8/2013, 10:24 AM
^

LOL
Minato
Minato - 8/8/2013, 10:35 AM
Batman is one of the greatest tacticians in comics period. So much so they have this lil storyline called Tower of Babel where he took down the entire JLA. I think he has a chance to a certain degree against most opponents that aren’t gods, cosmic beings or ridiculously powered metas. His rogues does have people like Clayface, Killer Croc, Poison Ivy, ManBat, Super Scarecrow, Solomon Grundy plus numerous aliens and demons that he fights alongside the JLA.

With that said I do agree with you that he couldn’t handle half of the people on that list with his default load out. Remember there are ways to defeat these guys which means Batman always has a chance. For example: Wolverine- all you need is two things a very strong magnet to hold him still (Similar to Magneto) and a large tank of water to drown him in.

I vote objectively but if it comes down to any street level hero or most with singular powers I vote Batman (except against Cap).
TheWolverine08
TheWolverine08 - 8/8/2013, 11:02 AM
Wolverine beats Batman 10/10 in a random encounter. Logan just has too many advantages. With prep, I can see Batman beating Wolverine.
SageMode
SageMode - 8/8/2013, 11:29 AM
The Dark Knight Returns is so monumentous because it has Batman putting a savage beatdown on Superman. This was astounding because it was completely unheard of before. The problem is that fans started taking it as gospel that Batman would always beat Superman, ignoring the fact that the story takes place in an alternate reality where an aged Batman had to prepare for years in order to pull off that stunt (and its Superman should be known as the Man of Straw). Similar "Batman kicks Superman's ass" scenes have since popped up in various comics and cartoons so frequently that this went from being a jaw-dropping, once-in-a-lifetime event to regular as clockwork. Batman went from being inspirational because he can stand alongside superhumans despite being powerless, to being the baddest motherfrakker around because he can automatically wreck any god-like being in the most humiliating way possible. That misconception of Batman is especially wrong because it would give him the legit superpower of unbeatability. Batman is the crafty underdog who's only able to save the day because he has extra time to plot while supervillains tucker themselves out fighting his more powerful teammates.
SageMode
SageMode - 8/8/2013, 11:32 AM
2CHALLA

Batman didn't beat the JLA, it was Ra's Al Ghul and the League of Assassins that stole Batman's contingency plans on the members of the JLA and used them against each member.
SageMode
SageMode - 8/8/2013, 11:37 AM
Minato
Minato - 8/8/2013, 12:24 PM
@Sage Duh I know that I just didn’t want to type forever.

@Virile yes Marvel Characters do have exploitable weaknesses and if studied well can be defeated. Batman is a master strategist what do you think tacticians do find the hardest way to beat someone and use that.

Spiderman-Overload his spider sense
Wolverine- Magnets
Shadow Cat- Make her phase for longer than she can
Magneto- The cure
Cap- Dimensional shifting

There is always a way to win if not then these books would be mighty boring.
3DWitchHunt
3DWitchHunt - 8/8/2013, 2:02 PM
LMAO
If shit like this annoys you to the point of taking time and making an article, youre gonna have a bad time on the internet
Minato
Minato - 8/8/2013, 2:07 PM
That was not my point at all. If you look at my first post you would see that I agree that Bats shouldn’t win against most people that e has won against in fight club. I was countering your point of saying that Marvels characters have no discernible weaknesses that cannot be exploited. I think thats bull. Every Character has a weakness of sorts that can be exploited by his enemy thats what makes for compelling comics. Batman is not infallible and I think your trying to make it out the be that I think Batman should win 100% of the time with “prep time”. I also think thats bull.
unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 8/8/2013, 2:35 PM
You know those meme's were made to be funny.Also if Batman getting vote in a fictitious fight bothers you that much you might want to seek psychiatric help.
LoudLon
LoudLon - 8/8/2013, 3:05 PM
I'm also a fan of Batman but as you know from my participation in Fight Club, I've yet to hear a single legitimate explanation as to how Batman can defeat half the opponents fans vote for him to beat. The argument "Batman can beat anyone with prep" is made by those who ignore the fact that if Batman has prep time, so does his opponent. And there are tacticians out there whose strategic and tactical ability surpass his, like Captain America (who would destroy Batman, face it) or Deathstroke, both of whom have enhanced thought processes which allow them to formulate multiple battle plans, strategies and contingencies at the drop of a hat, and physically they both surpass him on every count, be it in regards to strength, speed, agility, etc.

When the Bat-fans vote for him to defeat someone like Spider-Man or half the other characters he faces in FC, they're willingly ignoring the one thing that makes him so special -- the fact that he's human, imperfect and flawed.

And yeah, Wolverine would tear him to shreds. Though honestly, a similar article could be written about Wolverine as well.
Minato
Minato - 8/8/2013, 3:18 PM
You didn’t specify that this was first encounter either. Just with wolverine as an example his hubris would be is downfall in best case scenario for Batman. Wolverine doesn’t feel he has to prepare for fights outside of drinking a few pints. Batman over prepares for fights. I wouldn’t give it to Batman most of the time but there is a chance for him to win. As Bats has proven time and time again when the stakes are high enough all he needs is a chance.

BTW I know you know enough about comics to know that they retconned MM weakness to fire and GLs weakness to yellow. The main one with an immediate weakness to something stupid is Supermans pansy @$$.
Minato
Minato - 8/8/2013, 3:25 PM
BTW The magnet thing was something I thought of in the spur of the moment. Im sure Bruce would think of something more clever and useable.
unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 8/8/2013, 4:05 PM
Most people vote Batman in a first time encounter just to watch people rage about it.As for prep time over the years he has had amazing prep feats over the years.And while yes most of it is for plot convenience but the same can be said for any and all fictional stories and characters.
ravennpilot
ravennpilot - 8/8/2013, 4:14 PM
Batman has proven time and time again that he could beat opponents that should destroyed him. Now that doesn't grant him the ability to be everyone every time. But it does raise his status.

If he is written a certain way then that is the way he is seen.
Minato
Minato - 8/8/2013, 5:28 PM
@VIRILEMAN
It really has nothing to do with his skill level. It has everything to do with trying to write the most compelling stories possible. Batman has one of the best rogues galleries because most of his villains are psychological in nature. Most of these threats mirror real life fears in most people and his job is to conquer them for everyones faith in human ingenuity and willpower over fear. His books would suck if he defeated Penguin, Two Face, Hush, Riddler, etc in a heartbeat like someone who’s “mastered every martial art form on the planet”. People want to instinctively believe that normal human ability and resources can conquer anything that can be conceived. Thats the premise in 90% of fiction from moby dick to war of the worlds.

I will say this his wins a lot of times make no sense but he still wins.
Minato
Minato - 8/8/2013, 5:29 PM
Because he’s Batman
Minato
Minato - 8/8/2013, 5:30 PM
Dude your not going to change the way people feel about Batman even if you have a logical argument.
Minato
Minato - 8/8/2013, 5:54 PM
I agree too bad they will never give him movie love.
FOOM
FOOM - 8/8/2013, 6:37 PM
In a way bringing Batman to the big screen is one of the worst things that ever happened to the character. And he hasn't been the same since.
Minato
Minato - 8/8/2013, 7:56 PM
I see what you’re trying to say FOOM but I do like some of the stories he’s had since.
FOOM
FOOM - 8/9/2013, 2:02 AM
@2Challa

Batman greatness isn't his seemingly super powers as a detective or his ability as a 'master' tactician. Its his iron will and the fact that he can be so easily quashed.
Minato
Minato - 8/9/2013, 7:18 AM
I know but he’s only been totally defeated twice by Darkseid and Bane. I mentioned above that people love hi because he’s vulnerable but overcomes the psychology and physicality of the job with his ingenuity and resources. We can see ourselves in the bat.
FOOM
FOOM - 8/9/2013, 8:16 AM
My first Batman comic was #244. He got his ass whooped there too. But what a retaliation and what an issue.
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