DUNE: PART THREE Will Only Happen If Director Denis Villeneuve Can Make It "Better Than PART TWO"

DUNE: PART THREE Will Only Happen If Director Denis Villeneuve Can Make It "Better Than PART TWO"

Even though Dune: Part Two very much left things open for a third movie, director Denis Villeneuve still isn't certain that he will return to helm an adaptation of Dune: Messiah...

By MarkCassidy - Mar 24, 2024 10:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Dune
Source: Via SFF Gazette

Though he'll be taking some time to work on other projects in the interim, Dune: Part Two director Denis Villeneuve has already confirmed that he does plan to return to complete his saga with an adaptation of Frank Herbert's second novel, Dune: Messiah, but it sounds like a third film is far from a certainty.

“I did both movies back-to-back, which makes absolute sense for me,” Villeneuve told Empire while chatting about the possibility of returning to helm Part Three. “I felt that it was a good idea to move forward right after Part One. We were already designing, writing, et cetera. But it also meant that for six years I was on Arrakis non-stop, and I think it will be healthy to step back a little bit. First, make sure that we have a strong screenplay. The thing I want to avoid is not having something ready. I never did it, and now I feel it could be dangerous because of the enthusiasm. We need to make sure all the ideas are on paper.”

“If we go back, it needs to be real, it needs to be relevant. If ever I do Dune Messiah, [it’s] because it’s going to be better than Part Two,” he added. “Otherwise, I don’t do it.”

Spoilers follow.

Part Two definitely leaves the door open for a follow-up, with Chani (Zendaya) walking away from Paul Atreides (Timothée Chalamet) after witnessing him accept his "destiny" by harnessing the religious fanaticism of his followers and becoming the Fremen messiah, or Mahdi.

The movie concludes with Paul declaring himself Emperor and commanding his people to attack the envoys of the great houses who have assembled above Arrakis, thus setting the "jihad" foretold in his prophetic visions in motion.

Part Two recently passed the box office milestone needed to break even ($500 million worldwide), and is still going strong.

We're sure Villeneuve will ultimately decide to finish his trilogy, but we're probably going to be waiting quite a while to see it.

The saga continues as award-winning filmmaker Denis Villeneuve embarks on Dune: Part Two, the next chapter of Frank Herbert’s celebrated novel Dune, with an expanded all-star international ensemble cast. The film, from Warner Bros. Pictures and Legendary Pictures, is the highly anticipated follow-up to 2021’s six-time Academy Award-winning Dune. 

The big-screen epic continues the adaptation of Frank Herbert’s acclaimed bestseller Dune with returning and new stars, including Oscar nominee Timothée Chalamet (Wonka, Call Me by Your Name), Zendaya (Spider-Man: No Way Home, Malcolm & Marie, Euphoria), Rebecca Ferguson (Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning), Oscar nominee Josh Brolin (Avengers: Endgame, Milk), Oscar nominee Austin Butler (Elvis, Once Upon A Time…In Hollywood), Oscar nominee Florence Pugh (Black Widow, Little Women), Dave Bautista (Guardians of the Galaxy, Thor: Love and Thunder), Oscar winner Christopher Walken (The Deer Hunter,), Stephen McKinley Henderson (Fences), Léa Seydoux (James Bond, Crimes of the Future), with Stellan Skarsgård (Avengers: Age of Ultron), Oscar nominee Charlotte Rampling (45 Years, Assassin’s Creed), and Oscar winner Javier Bardem (No Country for Old Men, Being the Ricardos).

Dune: Part Two will explore the mythic journey of Paul Atreides as he unites with Chani and the Fremen while on a warpath of revenge against the conspirators who destroyed his family. Facing a choice between the love of his life and the fate of the known universe, he endeavors to prevent a terrible future only he can foresee.

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Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 3/24/2024, 10:13 AM
If?
There is no if.
He HAS to make it.
MatteMan
MatteMan - 3/24/2024, 12:33 PM
@Doomsday8888 - I don't know how to post a Gif, but..... You're Goddamn Right 😎
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/24/2024, 12:47 PM
@Doomsday8888 - Well he already failed to make Part 2 better than 1 and it's mostly on Zendaya's inabilities but also partially on DV's inability to frame and shoot action sequences and his inadequacies in developing the human aspect of his stories. Part 1 is better paced, has better characterization....it's honestly better across the board. The Harkonnen weren't simply Fremen meat sticks to be easily dealt with. There was tension within the invasion of Arakeen (although he shows here he can't really shoot battle sequences without quick cut montage scenes) etc. Dune 2 is good.. but it's not greatest science fiction film of all time good. Most of the people I know in real life simply liked the first one better.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 3/24/2024, 12:56 PM
@MatteMan
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@McMurdo
Even Zimmer was better in Part 1.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/24/2024, 12:59 PM
@Doomsday8888 - ya I agree I do love the Chani theme. Hated the actor who played her cuz she simply can't act but the theme was beautiful.
CLTMAN29
CLTMAN29 - 3/25/2024, 7:53 AM
@McMurdo - Interesting to read this. I actually enjoyed part 1 better also, but for different reasons. I think by proxy the mythology needed to expand in this one, and it does, but with very little clarified. I don't think it was detrimental to general audiences from what I understand but so many complex concepts were simplified. The small thing that really ground my gears - was Jessica throwing up. The Bene Gesserit can control their bodies at the cellular level and that simply would not happen.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/25/2024, 2:08 PM
@CLTMAN29 - interesting on the puking thing. He def depowered both her and Paul heavily compared to the books.
Vigor
Vigor - 3/24/2024, 10:14 AM
I didn't read the books. I loved the desert aesthetic of dune 2 but I hope dune 3 goes elsewhere. Space? Another planet? Again I never read the books

But the way they depicted the desert like it's a vast ocean to be respected was very immersive and reminded me of the best parts of avatar 2 the way of water
mountainman
mountainman - 3/24/2024, 11:04 AM
@Vigor - Arrakis is a dessert planet. We did get to see a bit of some other planets in the first two movies, the most prominent being Giedi Prime in part 2. Arrakis does develop and evolve over time though. Expect it to look a bit different in the third movie.
EarlChai
EarlChai - 3/24/2024, 6:37 PM
@mountainman - Mmmm, dessert planet… User Comment Image 😉
mountainman
mountainman - 3/24/2024, 6:39 PM
@EarlChai - Just drink some of that sweet sweet worm milk 🤤
Lisa89
Lisa89 - 3/24/2024, 10:15 AM
I feel he's just hyping a film he's already decided to make.
Fares
Fares - 3/24/2024, 10:18 AM
I just hope it doesn't take longer than 5 years.

I wonder what he's going to make before that.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/24/2024, 10:57 AM
@Fares - he’s been working on a historical biopic about Cleopatra based on a biography by Stacey Schiff aswell as an adaptation of Arthur C Clarke’s “Rendezvous with Rama

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He’s also working on a secret project that he’s said he needs to do soon so that could likely be his next one.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 3/24/2024, 2:12 PM
@Fares - I dunno, i think 5 years will be great. As long as we know they're going to make it. Messiah takes place like 12 years after the first book i believe, so even 5 is not long...I'm sure they got a good make up dept but Chalamet has a baby face. I'd like to see him age up a bit to beleive him in the role where he's suppose to be by then.

I'm pretty sure WB are going to go all in on Villeneuve after they lost Nolan though, They'll just back up the money truck and put a few cherries ontop. He'll make it
bobevanz
bobevanz - 3/24/2024, 10:19 AM
Where's Flopwatcher lol maybe they were a bot after all
DankMan
DankMan - 3/24/2024, 10:45 AM
@bobevanz - @flopwatcher
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/24/2024, 12:48 PM
@bobevanz - don't even say that turds name
RedFury
RedFury - 3/24/2024, 10:28 AM
I haven't seen Dune 2 yet unfortunately.. But with how much this man seems to love Dune I can't see him not doing it. I take what he's saying as more of his motivation to why he's going to make Dune 3, over him saying he won't do it unless it's better. I don't see Denis as the type to phone things in, so he's most likely just setting himself up to push his creativity and vision further than he already has. If the studio is willing, I'm sure we'll get a Dune 3 out of him one day.
DankMan
DankMan - 3/24/2024, 10:45 AM
@RedFury - Go watch Part 2 please, its the best action/adventure/scifi thing I've seen in theaters in a long long time.
RedFury
RedFury - 3/24/2024, 11:06 AM
@DankMan - I'm hopefully going to check it out soon with my old man. I'm so excited to see it, but just got over being sick. Your comment has me even more stoked!
DankMan
DankMan - 3/24/2024, 11:32 AM
@RedFury - Right on man, enjoy
kylo0607
kylo0607 - 3/24/2024, 11:56 AM
@RedFury - Dune Part 2 is legit one of the best Sci-Fi movies I've ever seen, so if you can, please go watch it.

Exceptional on every single level.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/24/2024, 12:50 PM
@RedFury - dune 3 he is going to have to go off the path of the books quite heavily based on the changes he made in Dune 2. I don't know how you age up Timothy. Unless Anya was just an Easter egg cuz her Aliah isn't 12 years old. She's 19 minimum. Aging of Timothy 2 decades in gonna look cringe. It's not an easy task.
RedFury
RedFury - 3/24/2024, 12:55 PM
@McMurdo - I haven't read the books, nor do I know the synopsis as I want to go into the second film fresh like I did the first.

But if he does need to age that much I see what you mean. He's far too young looking of a man to somehow make him look that much older, and aging up young people I don't think I've ever seen work well. So I guess he'll have to make some big changes if that's the case.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/24/2024, 1:01 PM
@RedFury - ya maybe you blame spice for keeping him youthful or Anya isn't in the film, you don't follow the book and you make a war film during the actual Holy War that follows directly after part 2. Who knows.
Taonrey
Taonrey - 3/24/2024, 2:08 PM
@McMurdo - that’s fine dune messiah and the books after it aren’t good anyways
RedFury
RedFury - 3/24/2024, 2:53 PM
@McMurdo - don't the books get really far out and psychedelic as they progress as well? I can't remember where I read that, but I thought someone said it would be difficult to adapt those books to the big screen because the ideas get a bit crazy.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/24/2024, 3:12 PM
@RedFury - yes they get quite weird.
StSteven
StSteven - 3/24/2024, 4:33 PM
@RedFury @McMurdo - Nah, I think you guys are overthinking this. They just need to get Chalamet on a strict regiment of grain alcohol and Camel non-filters and he'll age-up in no time. I partied A LOT in college (and was in college for A LONG time) and I just turned 48 and people think that when I'm buying toys for my little kids they're for my grandkids. Hell, I started getting ads for retirement communities in the mail years ago and now I'm getting them for burial plots and headstones. Trust me it'll work and the realism will be well worth it. Get to work Timmy!
RedFury
RedFury - 3/24/2024, 4:48 PM
@StSteven - hahaha, thank you for this. Gave me a good laugh.
StSteven
StSteven - 3/24/2024, 6:00 PM
@RedFury - I’m just saying that if Chalamet really wants that Oscar he’s got to earn it. I’m talking Christian Bale levels of dedication here. C’mon Timmy! It’s called Gemclear and it’s 195 proof. I’m sure you can get the ciggies at the liquor store too and if they don’t have Camel non-filters then get a pack of Marlboro Reds and rip the filters off. Or, if you’re a REAL badass, get a carton of Black Deaths (that’s the one in a black pack with a skull in a top hat on it).

Hell, one time in college I smoked an entire pack of Marlboro Reds at once on a dare and then followed it up with a Black Death just to be a badass. Sure I got kicked out of the bar that we were in for all the smoke but I earned the admiration of my friends and you can too Timmy, so get on it!
IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 3/24/2024, 10:29 AM
I've not seen either Dune movies yet, but as I also feel with James Cameron and Avatar, I'd like to see him do another original film in between doing another Dune. He's made so many great movies, I don't want to see just that world. I know it's a different story when the movies are beyond amazing, but the rest of his filmography also speaks for my point.
DankMan
DankMan - 3/24/2024, 10:44 AM
@IAmAHoot - My fellow lover of movies, for the love of god go watch both of them...
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/24/2024, 12:52 PM
@IAmAHoot - his best movies aren't even Dune films.
Asterisk
Asterisk - 3/24/2024, 7:46 PM
@IAmAHoot - im pretty sure he already said he’s making something else before making Dune Messiah
Forthas
Forthas - 3/24/2024, 10:34 AM
I think that is way too much pressure to put on himself. It does not need to be better than a movie that had virtually no flaws.

Going forward after Dune Messiah, whoever takes over from Denis needs to come up with unique stories and stop following the books. He/She needs an entirely new mythology and build on the excellent world Denis created. Hopefully they don't hire a hack director like they did with the DC universe who made the worst decisions possible and tanked the entire DC IP...perhaps irreparably.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/24/2024, 12:54 PM
@Forthas - virtually no flaws is hyperbole. Chani casting alone was a huge flaw. It's thee flaw if you ask me. Zendaya keeps that film from elevating above the first single handedly. Wanting Dune 3 to be better than part 2 is a really good thing.

And going full fanfiction post-Messiah is an awful awful idea. Changes in adaptation is completely fine and even necessary....but no. You still need to lore as much as you can.
Forthas
Forthas - 3/24/2024, 4:55 PM
@McMurdo - How is the Chani Casting a flaw? She has gotten nothing but praise from what I see and hear.

Star Wars does not follow the many books that were written and Marvel does not follow the comic book aside from taking portions of them and adapting stories around them. The books Brian herbert wrote are prequels and the other books that Frank Herbert wrote are too bizarre and are incomplete anyway. Build out the universe with new stories that ocurr way past when the books end.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/24/2024, 8:10 PM
@Forthas - because she was awful. She had one angry eyebrow expression for 3 hours. Maybe peep the dune reddit we've been discussing Chani and Zendaya's inabilities since it released. She is the weakest part of part 2.
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