Did Marvel Studios' Multiverse Saga Peak Too Soon With SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME?

Did Marvel Studios' Multiverse Saga Peak Too Soon With SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME?

At this year's San Diego Comic-Con, Marvel Studios announced that we're in the midst of the Multiverse Saga. However, can even a movie like Avengers: Secret Wars hope to top Spider-Man: No Way Home?

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By JoshWilding - Dec 26, 2022 12:12 PM EST
Filed Under: No Way Home

Not all of you will agree with this assessment, but for me, Spider-Man: No Way Home is a masterpiece. As a lifelong Spider-Man fan, there's a lot I could nitpick, whether it's Peter Parker's apparent inability to go one movie without a mentor or the fact that Uncle Ben remains a non-factor in this web-slinger's life. 

Still, it's easy to look past all of that when this very special movie - which came out a little over a year ago now - gets so much right. You can read more of my thoughts in the review we published last December, but, as you probably guessed from the headline, it's the Multiverse I'm focusing on today.

After months of rumours, speculation, and leaks, it wasn't until we all sat down in theaters on Spider-Man: No Way Home's opening day that we learned, yes, Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield really had returned as their respective versions of Spider-Man. 

As with some of Marvel Studios' creative decisions with the MCU's wall-crawler, I could bemoan the fact that we didn't learn more about what became of Peter and Mary Jane Watson's romance, while it would be easy to grumble about the Green Goblin's costume for that matter. Ultimately, COVID can shoulder at least some of the blame for a lack of cameos or screentime (recycled footage was used for Rhys Ifans and Thomas Haden Church's non-powered scenes), but by the time the credits rolled, how could you not be happy with how things played out?

Seeing the three Spider-Men interact and swing into action together was a joyous experience, and one it's hard to imagine ever being replicated (at least not with the same emotional impact). This was a team-up we could have only dreamed of a few years ago, but the Multiverse made it possible, and for that, I'm eternally grateful.

Unfortunately, as we head deeper into the Multiverse Saga, it's beginning to feel like Marvel Studios peaked too soon. The only other return likely to excite fans more than this is Hugh Jackman's Wolverine, and that's happening in Deadpool 3. Sir Patrick Stewart got to play an X-Men: The Animated Series-inspired Professor X Variant in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, while fan casts came true when John Krasinski showed up as Mister Fantastic. 

Now, as Avengers: The Kang Dynasty and Avengers: Secret Wars draw near, what do we really have to look forward to?

The characters listed above can return and interact with other heroes, sure, but the novelty has begun to wear off already. Simply put, the Marvel Universe's history outside of Marvel Studios is really nothing to write home about, and there aren't any actors from Fox's X-Men and Fantastic Four franchises I'm champing at the bit to see back on screen. Yes, Jessica Alba's Invisible Woman can stand alongside Thor and Nicolas Cage's Ghost Rider, but that actually sounds...kind of lame? Then, we have the issue of stunt casting, like Krasinski, and the big idea to waste Daniel Craig as Baldur the Brave.

Heading into the next two Avengers movies, my hope would be that we get to see actors like Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr. reprise their respective roles, albeit in very different ways. Give us an evil HYDRA Captain America or a Tony Stark who became Sorcerer Supreme instead of Iron Man. That's where the real fun will lie.

Spider-Man: No Way Home didn't show us the potential of the Multiverse, it highlighted it at its best. Spider-Man remains Marvel's greatest and most iconic character, and there's simply no way to top the three heroes sitting atop the Statue of Liberty together. You can throw dozens of Variants made up of actors from the past on screen, but the real Multiversal main event actually happened last December. We just didn't know it at the time.

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JXK98
JXK98 - 12/26/2022, 12:07 PM
First and WTF is the point of this article?
The saga didn’t peak at Spider-Man. It opened up opportunities by introducing us to past versions that we’ve already seen on live action film. To think that they’re only going to be limited to just using actors from other past films is ridiculous but I don’t see the point of bringing it up right now because it makes no sense when you actually think about the fact they have another 2 to 3 years left in their plan.

It’s like if you were bitching about the infinity stones being maxed out in phase 2 before they introduced the rest in phase 3 like let the shit finish first, then see if we was peaked.
Chuck420Taylor
Chuck420Taylor - 12/26/2022, 12:36 PM
@Scarilian - following that logic, the countdown for 616 began when America first came here correct?
Scarilian
Scarilian - 12/26/2022, 12:54 PM
@Chuck420Taylor -
"the countdown for 616 began when America first came here correct?"
If it's an increasing percentage chance of the reality she is in being destroyed, then yes, the longer she stays the more damage is done to the main reality and the blame for the innevitable incursion should be placed primarily on America Chavez, Sylvie and Wanda, Doctor Strange and Spider-man. Primarily Chavez, Sylvie and Wanda though as chronologically those three did it before Spider-man and Doctor Strange.

If it's just "One or both" each time you do multiverse travel, then it means the reality she came from got destroyed and the main reality is fine until she multiverse travels again, if we go under the viewpoint that it's not on a timer or the percentage chance of this occurring is low.

I'm pretty certain they'll retcon it that it won't impact America Chavez because she does not have any variants, but even then you have Doctor Strange crossing between multiverses in the movie along with others and you still have Andrew, Tobey, Goblin, Ock, Electro, Sandman, Lizard, Venom and Vulture to explain why it's not impacting those realities.

In essence though, Doctor Strange 2: MoM broke the multiverse plotline and I don't really see a way they can fix it without it meaning that the Tobey and Andrew universe will be destroyed as there are simply too many multiverse beings crossing between the Tobey/Andrew realities to the main MCU reality.
Fogs
Fogs - 12/26/2022, 1:07 PM
@JXK98 - I'm usually a critic of some stuff Josh writes but I'm siding with him this time. This is a valid question under an opinion article, and he gives arguments for the Multiverse being overused.
mountainman
mountainman - 12/26/2022, 12:07 PM
It’s not that it peaked too early, it’s that the other properties have been lackluster in comparison.
VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 12/26/2022, 12:13 PM
@mountainman - 🎯
Fogs
Fogs - 12/26/2022, 1:08 PM
@mountainman -
JustAChillFan
JustAChillFan - 12/26/2022, 12:07 PM
I've got to ask, is every article that is opinion based on this website always negative? I can't remember the last time an opinion piece was positive that wasn't a review for a movie they liked.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 12/26/2022, 12:08 PM
Multiverse is a MESS that is often too complicated even in comics, using it in movies is next to imposible.

NWH "worked" (and that is something relative) because it wasnt just a "multiverse movie", it mixed three already stablished franchise, is not like two random Spidermen played by known actors appeared in Holland's movie.
Is the reason why it "worked", we already knew Raimi and Webb versions...without those characters being stablished years ago, scenes like Peter 2 meeting Otto or Peter 3 saving MJ wouldnt have worked.

This is why MoM didnt work, it was just known actors playing random versions of the characters, there was zero attachment to them.

NWH didnt work because it did it right, or because it was a good movie, it worked because it was three different franchises coming together celebrating 20 years of cinematic history.
The "multiverse" part wasnt the point, it was just a tool to get them together.
SATW42
SATW42 - 12/26/2022, 12:27 PM
@TheHumanSpider2 - “ This is why MoM didnt work, it was just known actors playing random versions of the characters, there was zero attachment to them.”

Um, Patrick Stewart is professor x, not random. Black bolt was from the show, not popular but still not random, hayley atwell? Random? Really? Lasahna lynch from captain marvel being captain marvel, random? Mordor returning random? The only random was Krasinski, and that was fan casting. Didn’t work for you fine, but only ONE was random, the rest were returning
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 12/26/2022, 12:33 PM
@SATW42 - to his point the issue is kinda that Stewart was X yes but they had him be X from the cartoon not the movies so it’s like what are we doing here
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 12/26/2022, 12:34 PM
@SATW42 - Patrick Stewart wasnt playing the Profesor X from the movies, and who even watched the Inhumans show!?
Scarilian
Scarilian - 12/26/2022, 12:37 PM
@SATW42 -
Random in that we had no development or attachment to them prior. We only cared for Tobey and Andrew because of Raimi & Webb verse.

Patrick Stewart was a variant of Professor X we've never met before from a world we don't care about and he dies. He's not from the films we've spent ages watching.

Black Bolt was a variant of Black Bolt we've never met before from a world we don't care about and he dies. He's not from the failed Inhuman show.

Lasashna Lynch is a variant of Captain Marvel we've never met before from a world we don't care about and she dies. She's not got any of the development and is just equivalent to a race swap of Captain Marvel.

Hayley Atwell is a variant of Captain Carter we've never met before from a world we don't care about and she dies. They've even went out of their way to ensure we know she's not the same version as the What If version because they want to make sure nobody associates her with the portrayal in MoM.

Mordo is a variant of Mordo we've never met before from a world we don't care about with none of the emotional attachment or experiences that would be shared with Doctor Strange and the Mordo we actually cared about was going to be slaughtered in an opening scene. Oh and he presumably starves to death trapped in a hole because he cannot get up, how utterly stupid.

Krasinki is a variant of Mr.Fantastic we've never met before from a world we don't care about and he acts in a way that's moronic and then he dies. The only reason we care for this version is because of the fan casting and the creators have made it very clear he's not the main universe Mr.Fantastic so why should we give a crap.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 12/26/2022, 12:54 PM
@Scarilian -
Fogs
Fogs - 12/26/2022, 1:10 PM
@TheHumanSpider2 - IMO the Illuminati didn't work simply because the script didn't give them enough to do. The problem wasn't with the characters themselves.
marvel72
marvel72 - 12/26/2022, 12:09 PM
Yes it did because everything that came after it isn't as good.

1.Spider-Man:No Way Home
2.Doctor Strange And The MultiVerse Of Madness
3.Episodes Of What If?
4.Loki Season 1
Fogs
Fogs - 12/26/2022, 12:14 PM
Well, it peaked so far (MoM certainly didn't have the same appeal despite them trying).

But... just wait until Dynasty and Secret Wars. My guess is both spideys will be back plus MANY other Fox/Sony/Universal characters are appearing.

I don't hate the multiverse as other users and I understand it's both a storyline and a tool to build the final form of the MCU and I'm enjoying the ride. Some bad movies and series here and there but my excitement is back, mainly for Ant-Man, Dinasty and SW.
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