SPIDER-MAN 2 Gameplay Reveal Trailer Includes Kraven The Hunter, The Lizard, And A Deadly New Suit

@Kingdork - Yeah, Pete's demeanor and that black suit...and the gameplay......

@TopBoy - Did I say PlayStation have the best exclusives? Or did you get ahead of yourself and jump the gun?

@Origame - First game was so good, they could have not released a single trailer for it and I'd still get it opening day

@Origame - They are marketing this the exact same way they did Ragnarok. Teaser trailer, then gameplay trailer, then they will give the game to media outlets to do breakdowns of what's new. Ragnarok came out fantastic as will this.

Also in case you haven't noticed the entire industry has moved to $70 games. And the easiest way to rectify your issue with remakes that don't improve enough to justify a full price purchase is to simply don't buy it or wait for a price drop. It's a remake so it's not like you are missing out on something you likely have already played.

The buggy PC ports thing is the one point I can 100% agree on tho.

@Origame - So clearly you do not pay attention at all (or at least closely enough) to the gaming industry for you to claim the industry went to $70 after Sony did, because that is flat out false. Both Activision and Take Two announced their games would moved to $70 before Sony did. Xbox followed suit later than the others because they literally had no games to justify said increase, and still don't with the tragic release of Redfall.

How can $70 games be "anti-consumer" when I as the consumer still hold all the power in the transaction process? I can literally choose to either not buy $70 games, wait for a price drop, or even rent. My options as a consumer are in not way affected anymore than if I was to buy any other product. "Anti-consumer" has become the biggest and meaningless buzzword in the gaming industry, and it's primarily used by people who have anterior motives than what's actually good for gamers.

Oh and as far as the ABK/MS deal goes, yea if I was Sony why would I believe a single word out of the mouth of Microsoft when it comes to keeping games on PS? Phil Spencer (Head of Xbox) literally said that when they bought Bethesda it wasn't to take games away from gamers, yet the first thing he did was have the PS5 versions of Redfall and Starfield cancelled and turned those games exclusive. So what exactly was your reasoning for even mentioning this deal?

@Origame - Bruh games going up in price over time is not some unprecedented thing. As games become more expensive to make the price to buy them increases, this is simple economics. Before we paid $60 for games we paid $50, but the kicker is that way back before that $70 or higher games was a thing and now you guys are acting like it's brand new as if ya'll are new to this.




Games like Ragnarok, Horizon Forbidden West, and Spider-Man 2 cost $200M+ to make and take 4-6 years to make and unlike most games in the industry these days they aren't littered with microtransactions. So nah that $70 games take is a bunch of nonsense, if you want to own these games day 1 buy them , if not rent, wait for a sale or for them to be put in a service.


As far as the deal, the regulators themselves called out MS for being misleading in their Bethesda purchase, hence why MS is going around handing out 10 year deals to all these platforms and service holders. But it's pretty obvious that once those deals are over they will pull those games from their competitors platform ala Disney pulling Marvel content from Netflix once D+ was established.

Let's not act foolish and pretend MS is some virtuous company that actually gives a damn about consumers, because just like Netflix once they reach a certain sub milestone Gamepass will prices will begin to be jacked up to the high heavens and a large amount of their games will have microtransactions to offset costs.

@Origame - 1) As hardware gets most powerful the demands of gamers also grows, games take far more time to make and with that time comes consistent pay for your workforce. With more cinematic type games comes more expensive actors/voice talent. Yes, oftentimes for sequels they can reuse assets but that doesn't significantly drop the budget when you have to add much more in other areas to justify a sequel. People always say games aren't more expensive to make but they really are.

2) Microsoft is the same company that tried to tell regulators that Call of Duty was not "Special" or "unique" in terms of spending and engagement among gamers. Because naturally the #3 highest grossing game franchise of all time isn't special? Phil and Co. went into these acquisitions claiming they were trying to bring games to as many gamers as possible, yet they are taking Bethesda games off of the market leading platform.

Gamepass does not address the criticism of Xbox having no games because that statement was never literal and was always referring to big AAA offerings which they still lack. Xbox always had indie and AA games but not the big blockbuster titles to challenge PS and Nintendo. Also MS only offered those ABK games to Sony for PS+ because they knew they would reject that offer. Why would Sony actively accept an offer that generates much less revenue because the games cost nothing upfront? MS is actively trying to train their customers to not pay for games, Sony is not.


3) The Series S is hardly a next gen console and is actually having a negative effect on games due to MS wanting parity between it and the Series X. Also Gamepass isn't even a better value than PS+ which has more games at a lower price and if I'm not mistaken more features. Yet at the end of the day we didn't spend $500 dollars on these new consoles for customer service we did it to play new next gen games and currently Sony is doing a much better job at providing those than MS.

@Origame - 1) Genshin Impact is a live service game complete with microtransactions, it is absolutely idiotic to compare live service budget to a single player 20-30 hour experience. The will be making content for Genshin for years after launch hence the super bloated budget, but again that is offset by getting millions off of micros. A game like God of War 2018 cost $200M and only made money from actual purchases not dlc or micros. And mind you these are only the production budgets, to which you can easily add another $50-$100M in marketing costs.

"the actors aren't known celebrities they need to pay millions of dollars for."

Keanu Reeves got $2M for Cyberpunk and he wasn't even the main character appearing for about 6 hours of a 25 hour campaign.

2) I literally read the statement and MS was intentionally trying to downplay the success and importance of COD to regulators, stop the nonsense.

"Also, notice the irony of you claiming Microsoft has no games, yet when they take action to get games you criticize them? At least Microsoft is buying IPs and developers as opposed to Sony who are paying for exclusivity rights on games they don't own."

Are you even serious with this one? A) Where did I say MS had no games? B) You are trying to justify MS buying up the industry by complaining about Sony money hatting games? You do know money hatting games is a practice that MS has used in the past and is still using today right? Remember Rise of the Tomb Raider, COD map packs, Titanfall, Dead Rising 3?

Matter of fact here's just a small list of games that are timed exclusive to Xbox to kill that whole "PS money hats games" narrative you're trying to run with...

https://culturedvultures.com/timed-xbox-console-launch-exclusives-list/


3) It's not misinformation it is indeed an issue for many devs beyond just some artist. Why are so many games skipping Xbox? PS ain't money hatting all these game bruh, Baldur's Gate is proof of this. And why are you showing me Stalker 2 gameplay as if it proves some point about Series S? Is this Series S gameplay? Is it even Series X gameplay? No, odds are it's PC gameplay where EVERY game looks its best, therefore it's truly irrelevant to the issue at hand. By the way Stalker 2 always looked great hopefully the devs get the chance to finish it with all the BS they are dealing with.

I know you'll probably ignore this but here's a video on the issues Series S is causing.