Here comes Superman to save the… franchise?

Here comes Superman to save the… franchise?

Does DC/WB have what it takes to make amends?

Editorial Opinion
By Shaman - Jan 13, 2009 12:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman

I write this to you all in regards to my previous article “SUPERMAN: To reboot or not to reboot… that is the question!” which became a “top story” in no time having the very fans of the character battling over the issue of a possible reboot. As we are all aware of the outcome of such a decision, it leaves us wondering “what if they continued with what was made of Superman’s continuity?” Does DC/WB have the tools to repair the damages, to make the wrong things right again without having to reboot it?

Due to the recent “halt” in development of possible upcoming comic book related projects, us world wide fans are pretty much left in the dark, frozen in awe of what is to become of our favorite childhood heroes’ future on the big screen. We know what the reason behind the halt is but we don’t know what the outcome will be. In regards to Superman’s franchise, change is drastically needed as half the fan base is demanding almost begging for a reboot. The other half can’t dispute the fact that the storyline took a turn so ugly no one in their right mind could’ve predicted. What could have pushed an individual to willingly commit such an atrocious tragedy of what was his very own favorite superhero of all time? And why didn’t the executives stop him? It makes us wonder if they actually read the script at all. And judging from the legal dispute they have with Fox, I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t. It would actually explain a lot and it would pretty much confirm the need they have to halt everything and have a sit down to check every single detail. Captain Marvel was shut down completely, could it be because yet another mistake was just about to happen and they were quick enough to stop it this time? All we’re sure of is that either way, Superman’s franchise needs radical restructuring! Do we need to go as deep as to explore DC’s complex multi-verse to do it? Maybe not…

I firmly believe that Superman’s foundations are rock solid yet the faulty tower that was built on it was dangerously unstable and requires to be put down. In short, for something that colossal to be destroyed and rebuilt, I think the best option would be for Death itself to rear his ugly head and come on a knockin’. It has been said for ages that Superman’s own death was not only the best selling storyline of his existence but also what most fans wish to see live on the silver screen. It, like many other projects, at one time was to be produced however it was cancelled because they feared the technology wasn’t advanced enough to make it appealing to the masses. Kerry Gammill (which also happens to be one of my favorite artists of the Superman comic books) was to be responsible for the conceptual art of the movie. In his book “Drawing monsters and heroes for film and comics”, he shows us sketches of what was supposed to be Doomsday and explains the reason why the movie didn’t happen. Well, if Incredible Hulk’s success didn’t prove us that Doomsday can be done brilliantly by using CGI for their main villain Abomination, then nothing ever will. I believe the time has finally come.

If we examine the problems at hand that the latest movie “Superman Returns” brought, we’ll see that his death could very well change the opinion we have of this bound to be rebooted franchise. The first issue at hand is of course the fact that after coming back from a 7 year trip to the graveyard that is now Krypton, he discovered much to his surprise that he is now a father. Granted this is not at all the accurate origins of the character we know and love named Superboy however, it just might be the perfect way to bring him into play so to speak. Also, we seem to notice a lack of originality when it comes to challenges he encounters. Except for “Superman 2” which was the most popular of the five, every challenge he has met at the box office was earth based and the concept seems a bit overly exploited and illogical considering that the best villains and challenges he has encountered in the comic books came from space. Lex Luther is vital to Superman’s continuity, not as a main villain but as the brilliant business man we know to always plot in the background to finally be rid of the only thorn in his side. And the last detail was to be the cast of the movie. Brandon Routh did pick up nicely where Christopher Reeves had left off and Kevin Spacey was more than enough talented to fill in Gene Hackman’s shoes but for the rest of the cast, the characters weren’t portrayed rightfully as they should have. And this idea I have thought of, could be the answer to the problems we perceive of Superman’s new storyline.

Ten years have passed since the events of Superman Returns and Lex Luther wasn’t arrested since the incriminating evidence of his last plot had been thrown in the Sun. Superman did what he had to do even though he wasn’t pleased of the outcome, it was the lesser of two evils. After this last attempt, acknowledging that Superman has come back to stay this time around, Lex turned over a new leaf. His brilliant mind still led him to the corrupt occasional activity however he was determined to find better ways of getting the power he richly desired. In the ten years, he became a real “shark” on Wall Street, acquiring stocks of various international companies and becoming one of America’s most powerful businessmen in history. His upcoming goal as publically announced will be to run for presidency. Lex being the new owner of an important oil company has had teams digging in Antarctica for the last few years. They came upon a discovery that seemed to be alien artifacts, a space ship to be precise. Before his archaeologists could get there, the warmth that was generated to sustain life in the crevice for the workers, thawed the ships mechanisms as well as what was left dormant inside. The earth shook and the ships hull exploded creating a back draft that destroyed everything in the crevice. Outside workers were appalled to see this event as a creature immerged from the hole. In a blind Fury it destroyed everything on sight leaving nothing behind except for silence and death.

In Metropolis, Lois and Clark’s son has grown up a bit. He is a teenager going regularly to high school for fear of getting scolded by his adoptive father Richard White. One fine day at school, as he is sitting in his math class, an impact was heard not to far from school grounds near the football field. As every student crouched under their desks, Jason was curious as to what had created that impact and left his class room to investigate. As he neared the Gym, the wall next to him collapsed and a gruesome silhouette emerged from the rubble. It appeared that Doomsday had a built in tracking system that could locate beings with Kryptonian blood flowing in their veins. Jason being the closest one, he directed himself to Jason’s location. He started to attack Jason in frenzy and even with Jason’s developing super powers; he was no match for Doomsday. Lois being one of the first to hear the news at her office, she rushed over to her son’s high school to find him lying in a puddle of his own blood… with no pulse. The police noticed the culprit’s trail which seemed to lead towards the city. Doomsday leaving nothing but mass destruction behind him was tracking down the next closest being to have kryptonian blood… Superman. After dealing with a massive landslide on the outskirt of Metropolis that would have been responsible for the death of thousands of people, he left in super speed towards his son’s high school to deal with the situation. Doomsday feeling that his prey had fled away from him, started to wreck havoc in the heart of Metropolis. Upon arriving too late on the scene, the chief of police explained the situation that Jason had perished at the hands of this ravaging monster that headed towards town. The ambulance took Jason and her inconsolable mother to the hospital. In a fit of absolute rage he flew in the killer’s path to destroy him.

At the hospital, Lex Luther himself came to see Lois which was sitting in a river of her own tears, to offer her something a loving mother couldn’t refuse. It had appeared that Mr. Luther had secretly started a research facility at Lex Corp which had a single purpose… human cloning. He offered it at no cost since it would be their first test subject. When Lois saw that he wasn’t kidding, she put aside the risks and their horrid past and accepted. All Lex needed was a lock of hair from Jason. Upon examining Jason’s DNA, his researchers let him know of the anomaly being that he was half Kryptonian. Lex was ecstatic to learn that his suspicions he had in their last encounter, had been accurate. That he was indeed Superman’s son! So he spliced Jason’s DNA with his own in hopes that he might be able to control him somehow. Unfortunately, Jason was reborn with no memory what so ever and his father had already passed away in the climactic battle that almost destroyed the city. When Lex found out that Jason had no memory, he eagerly took Kal-El’s place as Jason’s father. He then went to Lois’s home to announce that his experiment failed and left their family to morn… heading towards his limo with a smirk on his face. After Superman’s world wide broadcasted funeral, sightings of him appeared on the news with very little detail and no pictures to confirm the allegations. Everyone was glued daily in front of their television in hopes that the reports were right. Enter “The Reign of The Supermen”!!!

Since time has passed, and since the cast was pretty much god awful aside from the two main actors, I will recast every role for this plot. Starting with Superman, his character hasn’t aged much in ten years since a Kryptonian doesn’t age as fast as a human but since I am recasting the whole cast, it would be nice to have an actor that has a more “experienced” look than what Brandon Routh had and maybe slightly older. My good friend LastSon1027 had this pick for a younger Jor-el in the previous article but since this story calls for an actor that can pull off the intensity needed as well as the look of the character. TheSoulEater had previously mentioned him in a post in 2008. I give you… James Caviezel as Superman, Cyborg and Eradicator!



I was a very big fan of Kevin Spacey’s portrayal of Lex Luther however, in the years past his character grew and became a harder, colder and less of a comical person to survive the harsh business world. Now even though I know that Kevin is talented enough to prove that he can pull of a different take of the same character, for some reason I feel it would be better to recast the role so that we can experience someone else’s take on him. This pick was given to us from wadewilson1 in my previous article. I felt shocked from the realisation that even though in 1989 he gave us one of the best portrayals of the caped crusader, today he is more than perfect for this darker role as he has proven to have the range to be a psychotic murderer in Pacific Heights and in Desperate Measures as well as brilliantly playing a mature father figure in the thriller White Noise. And his screen presence is strikingly similar to the ever so popular version of Lex in the animated series of Superman. I give you… Michael Keaton as Lex Luther!



As for Lois Lane, Kate Bosworth left the role a stale and uninteresting void of a character. This was not the Lois we knew of and offered nothing to the people who weren’t familiar with her character. Now Erica Durance on the other hand is everything us fan boys dreamed of as the best portrayal of Lois however, in this storyline, she would be in her late 30’s. Since there are a few very talented actresses of that generation, it made it quite difficult for me to cast this role. However one does stand out from the crowd as her beauty seems to be unaffected by time and her talent more than perfectly suits Lois’s personality. Most of us remember her from her popular role in Unfaithful but the roles I remember her for was her highly investigative and passionate part in Judge Dredd as Judge Hershey as well as the agent Nina Chance that she played along side Wesley Snipes in Murder at 1600. I give you… Diane Lane as Lois Lane!



For the role of Jason White better known as Superboy, this one proves to be even more difficult. Young teen actors rarely have much experience to back them for such an important role. This pick came from another good friend JosLezio85 for a different role however I find he fits this one perfectly. The best example of his talent will be showed in what is anticipated as the next epic adaptation failure known as DragonBall: Evolution, the main problem being the changes from the source material. He has enough experience to back my choice but in this movie he plays the role of a teen, chosen to defend earth from an alien menace and more than adequately proves that he has what it takes to play Superboy. I give you… Justin Chatwin as Superboy!



This character unfortunately was terribly portrayed by a basket ball player known as Shaq. He really shouldn’t have quit his day job. This is why we need someone with the talent to undo the evil that was imposed on John Henry Irons. I believe the actor I’ve picked has what it takes even though he might not be known for similar roles. I give you… Dennis Haysbert as Steel!



As for Jimmy Olsen’s role, we would also need an older actor but he would still have to be able to fit Jimmy’s profile. I think we might need someone that can pull a dramatic role all while being the funny bone to lighten things up. This has always been one of my favourite actors for a comedic role as he has made my squirt milk through my nostrils more than once on the sit-com Men Behaving Badly along side Rob Schneider but his best role I find was in Mystery Alaska where he played with Russell Crowe. I give you… Ron Eldard as Jimmy Olsen!



James Marsden is a brilliant actor but to us he will always be that douche of a boy scout known as Cyclops. His portrayal probably felt wrong for that single reason but he still delivered a great one. This next pick is a long shot since it is only a small part but a very dramatic one. I would only dream of this actor playing the role of Superboy’s adoptive father and as the new editor in chief of the Daily Planet(since in this story line Perry has pased away)but who knows, it just might happen. I give you Greg Kinnear as Richard White!



And last but not least, everybody’s favourite pick for this role would have been Michael Clark Duncan however I do believe he is best suited for Darkseid. This character will probably mostly be made by CGI and a computer alterated voice however, if they did decide to save a buck or two on FX, one actor does have the original voice, the build and the talent to play this role as he has proven it in Underworld as Raze. I give you… Kevin Grevioux as Doomsday!



The “Shaman” has spoken!
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bertilrud
bertilrud - 1/13/2009, 1:33 PM
awesome article shaman, just an fyi lane smith died almost 4 years ago.
Shaman
Shaman - 1/13/2009, 1:38 PM
Man, i can't get a break LOL. I fixed it, thanks for the info :))
slimybug
slimybug - 1/13/2009, 1:53 PM
Cyclops is a douche of a boy scout? Good bye, now.
Shaman
Shaman - 1/13/2009, 1:56 PM
Yes but.. but.. we love him that way LOLOL :P We NEED him as a douche!!!
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 1/13/2009, 2:27 PM
HOW ABOUT TOM WELLING AS SUPES AND LOUIS IN SMALLVILLE AS LOUIS..SMALLVILL IS AN APETIZER FOR WHAT PEOPLE WANTED TO SEE HAPPEN...I WANNA SEE

SGA
SGA - 1/13/2009, 2:38 PM
I think Michael Keaton could bring new dimension needed to keep Lex Luthor a main opponent for Supes, Chatwin would be pretty good as Superboy, and Greg Kinnear is one of my favorite actors and he can hold his own against Jack Nicholson (in As Good As It Gets), that alone gives him credibility to be in a Superman movie :)

and Dennis Haysbert would be an awesome Steel, as opposed to the has been known as Shaq
SGA
SGA - 1/13/2009, 2:41 PM
and if everyone's going to be a bit older, I think Jim Caviezel would be the PERFECT Superman.

he is an incredible actor who has a jewish heritage just like the creators of superman (if that has any effect on the role, which i doubt) and i mean, c'mon, he has played the most powerful portrayal of Jesus in recent history.

If anyone is suited to play Superman, it's "Jesus"
they're practically equal. lol
SGA
SGA - 1/13/2009, 2:41 PM
and if everyone's going to be a bit older, I think Jim Caviezel would be the PERFECT Superman.

he is an incredible actor who has a jewish heritage just like the creators of superman (if that has any effect on the role, which i doubt) and i mean, c'mon, he has played the most powerful portrayal of Jesus in recent history.

If anyone is suited to play Superman, it's "Jesus"
they're practically equal. lol
SGA
SGA - 1/13/2009, 2:41 PM
and if everyone's going to be a bit older, I think Jim Caviezel would be the PERFECT Superman.

he is an incredible actor who has a jewish heritage just like the creators of superman (if that has any effect on the role, which i doubt) and i mean, c'mon, he has played the most powerful portrayal of Jesus in recent history.

If anyone is suited to play Superman, it's "Jesus"
they're practically equal. lol
SGA
SGA - 1/13/2009, 2:41 PM
and if everyone's going to be a bit older, I think Jim Caviezel would be the PERFECT Superman.

he is an incredible actor who has a jewish heritage just like the creators of superman (if that has any effect on the role, which i doubt) and i mean, c'mon, he has played the most powerful portrayal of Jesus in recent history.

If anyone is suited to play Superman, it's "Jesus"
they're practically equal. lol
SGA
SGA - 1/13/2009, 2:42 PM
crap....sorry, i didn't mean to post that half a million times.
Shaman
Shaman - 1/13/2009, 2:42 PM
Okay GUNSMITH, please read the whole article. I know there's alot to read but the plot is very well explained. Would you see Weilling with a freakin 18 year old son?

Thanks SGA, when i wrote it, i thought i would offend you about the comment towards Dragonball. Thing is i'm still going to see no matter what is said about that movie. I just related to the majority on that one.

Good point also about Jesus LOL :)
zinext
zinext - 1/13/2009, 2:52 PM
I think sam jackson should be lex luthor, he would just bring life 2 that villian, and if louis lane is 2 be older i say let terri hatcher play her, and if anyone know there superman history im not going to explain why, yall should just kno.
Talontd
Talontd - 1/13/2009, 3:10 PM
GUNSMITH-

I completely agree:

TOM WELLING as SUPERMAN
ERICA DURANCE as LOIS LANE

But honestly Shaman, I think you've outdone yourself on this one! Good Show 'Ol Man!!!!

Excellent Picks!!
Excellent Story!!
Excellent Article!!
Shaman
Shaman - 1/13/2009, 3:13 PM
Sam jackson does have the talent for the role, i'll give him credit. But he's everywhere and i don't want him in that role. Not because of his color but because he's already a great Nick Fury and should leave this role alone. I know he's a mega fan boy of Superman himself but i would prefer someone else. And good comment about Hatcher, i did think of her however, Diane Lane has always been a preference of mine and is IMHO more talented than Terri to appear on the big screen. But great points Zinext :)

Well thanks Talond, that is a great compliment and i apreciate it :)) And i agree with both of you guys just not with this storyline. They'd be prefect for the more recent years of Kal-El :)
Talontd
Talontd - 1/13/2009, 3:14 PM
SHAMAN-

Welling will be 32 in April. They could easily make him appear to be 35 and have Chatman play his 17yr old son....remember the looks have nothing to do with his actual age, he's Superman.
LastSon1027
LastSon1027 - 1/13/2009, 3:22 PM
I agreed with all these picks Shaman. Amazing Cast! You know I'm a huge Welling fan but I think the only way to bring him in is to reboot the franchise completely because he does look like a younger Superman. I love Caviezel, he's an awesome actor. And by the way thanks for the shout out!!

I love your pick for Lois. Diane Lane is a great actress and absolutely smoking hot! I mean I don't think I could have picked a better Lois for this story.

Steel was another great pick. Thank you for not saying SHAQ! That would have deserved a bitch slap, but we all know you got more skills than that.

I like Chatwin for Superboy too, much more so than Goku.

I gotta tell you I am SUPER (no pun intended) impressed. And that says a lot man cause the Death of Superman is my all time favorite story line. I have the whole thing from Doomsday to Reign to Return all collected in Single issue. SO mad props to you Shaman! Mad Props!!
bertilrud
bertilrud - 1/13/2009, 3:32 PM
ok i hate to be mr. spell check, but its lois, not louis. louis is a guys name.

GUNSMITH and zinext
zinext
zinext - 1/13/2009, 3:34 PM
Yea that is the only problem wit sam, he is everywere!!! but I belive every great actor should have a role in the dc universe and in the marvel universe IMHO.
TheDurkinKnight
TheDurkinKnight - 1/13/2009, 3:34 PM
**************************Please email me at [email protected] with your response cause I really wanna know what everyone thinks***************************

Okay, Shaman, while you spun a great story here, I think the problem is that it's basically doing what Alien Resurrection did back in the late '90's: Trying to resuscitate a movie that was so strongly disliked that the end product is this creation that just takes the movie further into a direction people don't want it to. I mean first of all, none of us have seen decent Superman movie in our Generation (Gen Y). So I at least, don't wanna see the Super-Bastard-Son at all, I just wanna see Superman in all his CGI ass-kicking glory. Next, how shallow would that make Lois that she would just clone her dead son. Lois is portrayed as smart enough that she would understand a clone is merely a carbon copy of the original, but NOT the original. It's a bit murky in the ethics department, and that wouldn't be fun. BTW, you're not the first ones to pick Jim Caviezel as Supes (he was originally in the running before Signer got on board) or Keaton as Luthor (the creators of Smallville had him in mind when they were screening for Lex on the show.

Honestly while the story was good, I think it's still settling because people want something more sophisticated than what's been given to us and the best way to do that is with a reboot.

**************************Please email me at [email protected] with your response cause I really wanna know what everyone thinks***************************
TheDurkinKnight
TheDurkinKnight - 1/13/2009, 3:36 PM
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BTW, Bertilrud...why did you update Shaman on Lane Smith...I didn't even see his name mentioned in the article?

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bertilrud
bertilrud - 1/13/2009, 3:41 PM
because lane smith was on there the first time i read it
superdude05
superdude05 - 1/13/2009, 3:45 PM
Shaman, the casting for your superman movie is great, but the story i feel wouldnt work, okay yes its a very cool story and i would very much enjoy to see it on the big screen, but the problem is, is that if there was a superman movie made like this where superman is allegedly dead and jason is dead etc then chances are that the general public will probably not particularly like it, yes comic fans like yourself and I would love to see this type of thing happen, but for general movie go-ers superman needs to stick to the whole stip the bad guy rescue the damsel save the world routine, otherwise it will be another flop at the box office, despite how true to the comics or cool it may be, and Warner bros. isnt likely to make a movie purely for fans but rather for all, plus i'm beginnign to feel that the whole death of superman/ doomsday story is beginning to get rather overused, i.e. superman: doomsday, smallville etc i would very much like to see luthor in his green power suit as opposed to being a minor character with little conflict with superman himself,

Great article.
Talontd
Talontd - 1/13/2009, 3:48 PM
LASTSON1027-

I think Welling only looks like a younger Superman on Smallville because they are desperately trying to make him look younger. He is 32 playing a 22yr old...

THEDURKINKNIGHT-

No way was Keaton in the running to play Lex on Smallville.....HE'S 56YRS OLD!!!! He was never in talks to play a 22yr old Lex.

Stop Hating.
Talontd
Talontd - 1/13/2009, 3:52 PM
SUPERDUDE-

I disagree, I think any storyline where Superman is "Humanized" is something people will want to see, but to each his own...

I really hope they make this film and title it...

"The Death and Life of Superman"
Tenaciousbt
Tenaciousbt - 1/13/2009, 3:56 PM
Shaman,

I think your movie idea sounds great. I am not sure about killing the boy early like that. Maybe Lex can get the DNA from Supermans's "dead body" like in the comics, and the boy can die towards the end, and that fit of rage will give the weakened Superman the boost he needs to defeat the cyborb Superman. Over all though the story sounds great.

As for the cast, I love Caviezel, and besides Tom Welling he is the only other actor I would like to see in a reboot for the role of Superman.

Great Job Shaman!

zinext,
Holy shit, I am sick and tired of Sam Jackson! I say hell no to Sam Jackson as Lex, and as Nick Fury. This whole "lets replace white characters with black guys to make black people feel better is crap." Or to change any characters race to any other race is BS. The characters are fine the way they are.

You want to be fair to everyone? why don't we make make Superman a half black half azian albino trans gendered miget with down syndrome? Ok, then everyone can feel represented. NO! What we need to do is stick to the mythos. If everyone is so concerned about race in comic book movies then go out and by comics with multi racial characters, they are out there. If those characters are strong enough then they will be made into movies. If not then they won't, but stop with the whole lets change everone into Sam Jackson to make people "feel better."
Niem8211
Niem8211 - 1/13/2009, 4:37 PM
This would be a great idea for a great movie, but if we all know as long as your not on top this is only a comic long lost dream.......
TheMyth
TheMyth - 1/13/2009, 4:52 PM
I Love your story. The Death of Supes is the first time I ever liked him as a character. Until then, he was undefeatable. No one could match him. Sure for story's sake in the books someone percieved a threat momentarily, but never any real danger for him. His Death brought him down enough for me to enjoy him. I was into comics and the history enough to know that his death wouldn't be permanent, but for him to be utterly crushed and broken and humiliated in every way for once in his long career. And I loved it. So seeing Doomsday trample superman in a movie... I would see it at least 3 times in theaters.

I enjoy the detail also. It show's you put thought into this which can always be appreciated. I'm not sure about the cloning thing, but then I made it clear above Supes ain't my fav. Chatwin as superboy... you want to reject it at first, but somehow it seems... good. lol, can't explain it, just fits. OMG Diane Lane is by far one of the most beautiful women on the planet, for sure in my top 5. Her natural beauty... I will swee any movie with her in it, if it's a bad one, I don't hear it I just watch her. Under the Tuscan Sun was great for my and my 'crush' on her. I can't accept Caviezel as Supes. Sorry, can't do that one. He already played Jesus, lol, let someone else be a God. but seriously, it is a good chance to show how slowly he age's versus humans. Casting someone a few years younger may not be a bad idea. But I really don't like Caviezel as an actor. I find him... vanilla, I guess. He never stands out to me.

Spectacular article! Keep 'em coming.
superman7
superman7 - 1/13/2009, 4:54 PM
I like this idea and the heart behind this story. but i respectfully disagree with some of the key plot points.

I'm not sure if I would cast Diane Lane as Lois. I can not think of who i would cast at this moment but she does not fit my idea of what lois is.

But my main problem with this story is Lois' character... I dont think that Lois would ever willingly let Lex clone her child. She knows that Lex would have a hidden motive. And even if she did trust him, I do not think that she would want a clone of her son. Having a clone of someone does not necessarily mean that the person's life had not ended. She would probably agree to let Lex experiment with him if there was a possibility of saving his life. It would be somewhat selfish of her to clone her son. She would only be cloning her son to cover her own pain, not to bring him back. And that would open up a whole new verse of people opposed to the movie and Lois.

If you wanted to bring superboy in this way Lex should steal a piece of his hair or some of the blood that would be lying around.
Tenaciousbt
Tenaciousbt - 1/13/2009, 4:56 PM
Grif, you suck!
SupermanReturns2
SupermanReturns2 - 1/13/2009, 5:18 PM
Jim Caviezel as Superman? Brilliant!

As for your story?...

PRETTY DAMN GOOD!

To Hell with Welling! Leave that dude to the soaps.
Sonny
Sonny - 1/13/2009, 5:19 PM
Hate to say it... But just let it die for a few more years...
loganoneil
loganoneil - 1/13/2009, 5:22 PM
Shaman - VERY interesting plot (love the casting!), but... I feel I must point out one little thing - you state that Lex decides to run for President. As a convicted felon who's served time in prison, he's legally ineligible (sorry to nitpick).

Since we're talking 'Death of Superman' here, will there be a tie-in to the JLA (will they make cameos at the funeral?), or is this a 'one-off' (kinda' like the cartoon)?
Spock
Spock - 1/13/2009, 5:35 PM
Wells my hats off to you Shaman, As usually your are delivering a great story. But I wonder If WB/DC will ever deliver a good script like the comics have or even the cartoon seris the Justice League.

You know I would like to do a fan site, but I don't want to take the time. So just enjoy what others like you are doing.
WonderMoose
WonderMoose - 1/13/2009, 5:51 PM
While I believe Brandon Routh has been the best Superman yet, I think this is an awesome idea and agree with all the casting. However I must point out that they already made "Superman: Doomsday".

Also as a note to those who want Tom Welling as Superman. Whether he's old enough or not does not change the fact that he barely manages to call to mind an image of Clark Kent and has a level of talent that is rather low even for TV actors.
LastSon1027
LastSon1027 - 1/13/2009, 6:08 PM
Talontd: Dude seriously the reason they can use Welling as a young guy is because he looks young already. And believe me if anyone on this site wants to see Welling as Supes it's me. But as much as I would love to see Welling in the Cape it doesn't fit with the scenario My friend Shaman has written here. So I'm just trying to do what Hollywood can't and respect the source material.

BUT if they reboot they had better DAMN WELL USE TOM WELLING! That to me is ironclad.
Tenaciousbt
Tenaciousbt - 1/13/2009, 6:30 PM
Georgoriah,

Best Superman yet? Are you crazy, the best "Superman" is Chris Reeve NO CONTEST! If you can't see that then you need your head examined. If you think that BR should continue to be Superman, well ok, but I don't agree and I feel there is no chance he will return. As for who could play Superman in a reboot. I believe that Tom Welling is the best fit by far, I do think that Jim Caviezel could do an awesome job too.

You obviously don't like TW. I would be will to bet that you aren't a Smallville fan and probably have only caught a couple of episodes here and there, if any. If you want to see an image of Tom Welling as Superman check out my post at

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/superman_movies/news/?a=5891
TheMyth
TheMyth - 1/13/2009, 6:31 PM
lol Grif ur hilarious. your a deuche, but ur hilarious. best laugh I had all day cause I knew someone was gonna shyte over that one.
lilroc
lilroc - 1/13/2009, 6:54 PM
This was a good read. I also beleive that the Death of Superman would be great, but I think you could put a spin on it with the fact that Jason was already a clon and you could bring in the introduction of Cadmus. I also think this could bring in like the comic did the introduction of a lot of the B list hero's that Doomsday beat the hell out of before the big match. This can parlay into the JLA after the big three decide that this can never happen again and put toether the greatest team ever. Also you can have cameo's of Bruce and why not have the fact that Supes and Lois are tired of living without each other and this will leave open the second biggest event in Supes life... The Wedding of Clark and Lois.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 1/13/2009, 7:06 PM
Yeah Cadmus would be good

Diane Lane as Lois droooooooooooool..yes!

Not sure about your reasons for picking Chatwin for Superboy. I mean DB isnt out yet so he may well suck balls in it. Has he been in anything else?

the rest of your choices are great. id say Keaton would make a great Lex..and Caviezel was a great Christ so how could he not be a great Supes? lol. I love Kennear and would watch him in almost anything..except Ghost Town! I hate Steel but i like Haysbert. Eldard ive only seen in a couple of things but hes impressive. I actually think Shawn Ashmore does a decent Jimmy on smallville. i think Doomsday should be cgi though
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