SUPERMAN: James Gunn Says "Elseworlds" Means Movie Starring A Black Man Of Steel Could Still Happen

SUPERMAN: James Gunn Says "Elseworlds" Means Movie Starring A Black Man Of Steel Could Still Happen

DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn has finally shared an update about the Superman movie revolving around a Black Man of Steel, confirming it could become a reality despite the fact he's helming Superman: Legacy.

By JoshWilding - May 01, 2023 07:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman
Source: io9

Since DC Studios was formed, a lot of projects fans were looking forward to have been scrapped in preference of a new "Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters" slate of interconnected projects. 

That's not necessarily a bad thing, of course, but one of the most highly anticipated movies - a Superman project with a Black Man of Steel - could still happen. Ta-Nehisi Coates wrote that, while Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker director J.J. Abrams was attached to produce.

While very little was ever revealed about the plot, we heard that it was going to be a period piece in the 1930s with a Black Kal-El attempting to find his place on Earth at a time when America was embroiled in racism. It's a fascinating Elseworlds concept and one that may be revisited under DC Studios' watch due to the fact it could become a standalone franchise similar to The Batman

"Those two things are totally unrelated," James Gunn told io9 when asked about this take on the character and his upcoming reboot Superman: Legacy. "That’s an exciting movie. I know that Chantal Nong, who is the executive on that project, is extremely excited about it."

"So if it comes in and it’s great, which I haven’t read the script, and if the timing is right, that could absolutely happen. That’s totally unrelated. It would be an Elseworlds tale like Joker."

While we find it hard to imagine Gunn wanting this Superman movie to overshadow what he has planned for the Man of Tomorrow in Superman: Legacy, we'd say it's possible it happens further down the line and likely sometime after 2025. 

After all, the upcoming DCU reboot needs to establish the new Supes as the face of this shared world, but if DC Studios can make audiences understand the difference between these different DC projects, any sort of overlap might not be a major issue (such as The Batman II and The Brave and the Bold coming out in close proximity). 

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mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 5/1/2023, 7:35 AM
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 5/1/2023, 7:48 AM
Chocolate Brother during the daytime, DJ at night time
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 5/1/2023, 7:36 AM
With the way he got rid of Cavill I doubt hid ego would ever let that happen 🤣
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 5/1/2023, 8:25 AM
@DaRealCapClunge - Cavill was fired like 5 years ago Gunn just didn't bring him back cos he's old
bigdannymac
bigdannymac - 5/1/2023, 1:14 PM
@DaRealCapClunge - Trolling doesn't pay the bills son. If you're going to comment, why not know your facts? Jabroni.
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 5/1/2023, 1:28 PM
@bigdannymac - tf you talking about?

James gunn was offered to write and direct superman, he refused and directed SS using the excuse that he'd rather direct more obscure characters as he can take more liberties and the first thing he does as the head of the DCU is write a superman film he hired himself to direct. 💀 He wanted nothing to do with Cavill because his ego wants to start afresh....yet he's keeping his SS & other aspects of the DCEU....those are the facts
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 5/1/2023, 1:31 PM
@UncleHarm1 - he still had an appearance on his contract which he used in black Adam then the studio told him to announce his return as superman and then backtracked when Gunn wanted to start afresh.

Gunn was offered Superman when WB appointment approached him instead he chose to direct TSS because he said he prefers to direct more unknown obscure characters, then proceeds to write and direct superman as the head of the DCU 🙄
bigdannymac
bigdannymac - 5/1/2023, 1:39 PM
@DaRealCapClunge - You genuinely don't do any research when you comment. Which is fine, you do you.

He was offered Superman and "at that time" didn't feel comfortable doing it. He didn't know how to tackle it. He's grown since that first offer, he's had enough time to think on Superman, to read comments of fans and what they want in a Superman and decided to try writing it. This was before he was given his role as Co-Head of DCU.

Do some research. He was writing Superman BEFORE he got this job. He also had NOTHING to do with Cavil not coming back. Those decisions were made PRIOR to him taking the role. The Rock (who I love) screwed things up by painting a picture that didn't exist, which was Henry coming back as our Superman. That wasn't the case, but The Rock hoped that would sell tix - which it didn't.

James Gunn is 1 man and half the leadership. So you saying he's just handing himself jobs, tells me you have zero clue how studios work. Which is fine, not many do. I can assure you, he's not out here handing himself jobs.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 5/1/2023, 5:34 PM
@bigdannymac - well articulated mate. You shut him down real quick lol
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 5/1/2023, 7:02 PM
@bigdannymac - so you basically just confirmed what I said about him being offered superman and refusing and then proceeded to add your own opinion on why he is ok writing and directing superman now 🤔 I stuck to the facts you added your own stuff to fit your narrative which is cool but isn't factual 🤣

According to him he had been writing superman before getting the job and had no intention of it being Cavill which literally adds to my argument because Cavill was still the DCEU superman at that point. After black Adam the studio told cavil to go ahead and announce his return. He stood that by the studio, not the rock and not Gunn. Cavill then confirms he met with Gunn who explained he had no intention of using him (if he did he'd have given him a new contract). Gunn is rebooting the DCEU but keeping what he wants, which happens to be his SS, his friends (Zack Levi) but getting rid of the person who started the DCEU so he can give us his version of superman. That's all ego IMO😒
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 5/1/2023, 7:03 PM
@McMurdo - he really didn't, learn to read and comprehend the facts and events that happened.🤣
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 5/1/2023, 7:05 PM
@DaRealCapClunge - he was told that by the studio****
bigdannymac
bigdannymac - 5/2/2023, 7:02 PM
@DaRealCapClunge - Absolutely nothing I said was made up or something I came up with. I literally used James Gunn's own words. If you choose to not believe the things he says that's up to you. I for one have no reason to think Gunn is lying or misleading in his answers and comments.

Its ok though my friend, I'm a big boy too, I pee standing up.

Have a good one 🍻
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 5/3/2023, 4:16 AM
@bigdannymac - 🤣🤣 I must admit you comments are funny 🤣 you literally sound like the rock with some of them jabs. Have good one mayne
bigdannymac
bigdannymac - 5/3/2023, 4:32 PM
@DaRealCapClunge - At the end of the day my bro, we're all CBM fans. Let's enjoy the ride and have some fun dialogue along the way 🍻
WarMonkey
WarMonkey - 5/1/2023, 7:37 AM
As a DC fan I have no faith in Gunn's universe being good. Wish I did but I don't. Every time he says something I lose even more faith.
Arthorious
Arthorious - 5/1/2023, 10:33 AM
@WarMonkey - well there’s always the animated universe which has been good so far. The Tomorrowverse that is
WarMonkey
WarMonkey - 5/1/2023, 10:48 AM
@Arthorious - I like some of it but not other parts. Like this recent one where they team with RWBY or whatever wasn't that good imo. I liked the fighting scenes but I don't know anything about that other IP or characters and they didn't really explain anything in the story. Or the last one with the Legion wasn't so great either. I did really like Supergirl the way they made her but the story was kinda iffy an wasn't a fan of the big twist. Man of Tomorrow was great!
Arthorious
Arthorious - 5/1/2023, 11:55 AM
@WarMonkey - I hear where you’re coming from. I’ve enjoyed most the latest films in their shared animated universe but with that said there are some definite weak ones: Green Lantern and Supergirls movie in my opinion. Don’t want to spoil it for those who hadn’t seen it but they took some chances that I don’t think paid off well with some of their characters. But I agree Man of Tomorrow was great and I did really enjoy Long Halloween and Justice Society.
WarMonkey
WarMonkey - 5/1/2023, 12:24 PM
@Arthorious - I actually enjoyed the Green Lantern one, did not like the changes but I went with them cause John is my Lantern so I was just happy to see him get a movie.
Origame
Origame - 5/1/2023, 7:40 AM
Just cancel the coates movie and focus on the Michael B Jordan val zod project.
JayBarrick
JayBarrick - 5/1/2023, 7:43 AM
@Origame - They could have so much fun with the concept of Earth-2, but to be honest, I have so little faith in this new take. It seems like we won't have a clean slate, and man, I would really like to have a clear timeline isntead of this fuzzy somethings are canon, some are not, whatever...
Origame
Origame - 5/1/2023, 8:28 AM
@JayBarrick - could've just done Calvin Ellis or Val zod. You know, things that actually give a unique take other than "the superman you know, but people are racist to him for being black".

I had so much respect for Michael b Jordan for leaving the film to make a val zod show, but now that renders this movie completely pointless. So why do it?
McMurdo
McMurdo - 5/1/2023, 5:38 PM
@Origame - please God. Coates is a terrible trash human who can't write to save his life.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 5/1/2023, 5:39 PM
@JayBarrick - entire clean slate this side of The Suicide Squad. Soooo



Not sure how you're supporting this stance
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 5/1/2023, 7:46 AM
Just because Superman is black doesn't mean the whole movie has to be some alternate reality about how a superpowered black man changes a racist world.

Just make the main Superman black, if you're gonna do it.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 5/1/2023, 7:47 AM
Or don't. I don't care.
mountainman
mountainman - 5/1/2023, 8:37 AM
@ObserverIO - This is a good point that isn’t discussed enough. It really says something about the bias of the writers when so many minority characters they write have to have their race or sexuality as key aspects of their character and story.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 5/1/2023, 8:45 AM
@mountainman - Yeah, exactly. That's basically what I'm saying.
mountainman
mountainman - 5/1/2023, 9:17 AM
@ObserverIO - I can’t for the life of me understand why someone would want to see victimhood celebrated rather than people who rise above it celebrated.
Midnaslament
Midnaslament - 5/1/2023, 9:39 AM
@mountainman - yesterday i saw a man in the street who was white but he got sunstruck tanned n ppl started discriminating him the moment after that and he was able to power throuh
Midnaslament
Midnaslament - 5/1/2023, 9:47 AM
@Midnaslament - VICTIMHOODS REFLECTION IN A MEDIA PRoDUCT AS AN OVERCOMING OF THE FORMER IS TO CHANGE AND REVOKE AND GIVE HOPE FOR REAL PPL TO DO THE SAME WHILE THEY LIVE IN THE CURRENT PANORAMA REFLECtiNG THAT YOU SILLY WILLY BILLY WOBBILY DOLLY of mine
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 5/1/2023, 11:37 AM
@Midnaslament - My dear willy wobbly dingly dongaroo, I could not disagree more. This is merely a reinforcement of the slave mentality. Bigotry prevails when good men make can't make movies with minorities that don't point out that they are minorities all the time. How is any minority ever going to be accepted by society or even accept themselves an anything other than other if this keeps happening?

A black Superman in Superman Legacy, but with the exact same script that James has written as it stands right now would be more progressive than a million movies about a black superhero where the whole plot is that they're black.
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