"The Death of "Superman Lives": What Happened?" Documentary Kickstarter

"The Death of "Superman Lives": What Happened?" Documentary Kickstarter

Have you ever wondered why Tim Burton's "SUPERMAN LIVES" movie never saw the light of day? Well one fan is setting out to make a documentary and you can help fund the making of it!

By JohnWilbanks - Jan 25, 2013 10:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman
Source: Kickstarter



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The Death of “Superman Lives”: What Happened? is a Feature Length Documentary about the unmade movie "Superman Lives". This film, out of all the various attempts to make a Superman movie between 1987 and 2006, would have stood the test of time and become a bonafide Cult Classic nowadays. I am not alone with my intense interest in knowing everything I can about this project, and so now I'm embarking on making a Documentary that will cover everything ever made for this film, from interviewing as many people as I can who were involved, to including actually recreating scenes from the script!!!

I’ve been interested in this film since it was first announced back in the late 90’s. Nicolas Cage was announced as Superman, Kevin Smith was announced as the Writer, Tim Burton was announced as the Director, and fans have had very heavy opinions, both positive and negative, on all of this. As news slowly bubbled out, news buzzed around about Rainbow Robot Outfits, Brainiac Skull ships, Superman not "flying", Fighting a Giant Spider, Polar Bears guarding the Fortress of Solitude. It all sounded so crazy, so weird, so different, that I honestly was hoping that they would actually make it, just so we would have something different from what had come before. It never happened. Cut to almost 15 years later, and I really wish I could slap that “Superman Lives” disc into my player, and watch this guaranteed weird, strange, and original new take on the mythology of the Superman character. By this time, whether it was a success or failure at the box office, It would have for sure been a cult classic, due mainly to its inspired casting, and its tremendous bravery in it’s attempt to merge toy sales with the weirdness.

THE CREW

I have been working professionally in the world of media for over 15 years now, writing, producing and directing shows that many of you have heard about. Some have even achieved cult status themselves ( Upright Citizens Brigade, Metalocalypse, The Venture Bros ). This will be my first feature length documentary, but over the years I’ve had plenty of experience in doing interviews, talking on camera and specifically editing interviews. I was a featured guest in Morgan Spurlock’s “ComicConIV: A Fans Hope", I’ve edited over a dozen episodes of "Space Ghost Coast to Coast", and I’ve directed hundreds of Actors both in front of the camera and in "behind the scenes" docs, so I’m very prepared to make this documentary soar, both visually and with the talent involved!

I’m going to be interviewing as many Key Personnel that I can get in contact with, and I plan on getting everybody! In addition to delving into the making of “Superman Lives”, I’ll be focusing on the ideas, legends, and ever expanding mythos of Superman and the need for a superhuman character in our society and culture in general. By interviewing other Writers, Artists, Filmmakers, and Fans, I intend on asking more questions than could possibly be answered, but we are going to have lots of fun along the way!

Including myself, my Producer, my Cameramen and my Editor, we will be setting up interviews with all the key personnel, and will be travelling about to get the people when we can. I’ll have a music composer and sound designer, with additional ADR and Sound Booth Recording, and all finished HiDef with a 5.1 professional mix.

THE STRETCH GOAL

I hope that with the possible success of raising the money to make this feature documentary, that we also reach our additionally intended “Stretch Goal” of $50k, which will be used to actually produce and create several key scenes and moments from the “Superman Lives” scripts, using the incredible graphic ideas generated by the many designers and artists. I will also hire artists to make 3D models, build Practical Models, design Backgrounds, animate Lasers (very important!), make Brainiac's eyes glow inside a giant floating SkullShip, and to composite very cool action flying shots. I'm going to direct these scenes in the spirit of the unmade Burton Version, and hope to be able to create some crazy "Superman Lives" Scenarios! For these reasons, that’s the budget needed to make this project, and that's where you come in!

THE PREMIERE

With your help, I will have a finished cut of “The Death of “Superman Lives”: What Happened?” finished and a World Premiere Screening by the time of the 2013 San Diego Comic Convention, and ready to screen it to the entire world after that! Once we get funded, I’ll be posting monthly updates on the progress I’m making, who we interviewed that month, and keeping you in the loop with Exclusive Kickstarter Video Updates!

Thank you for your support!

-Jon Schnepp


John Wilbanks

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JohnWilbanks
JohnWilbanks - 1/25/2013, 10:24 AM
I just helped fund at the $40.00 dollar level. I think it will be interesting to see it, especially if he gets to interview all of the people he says he will in the video...
ManofSteel23
ManofSteel23 - 1/25/2013, 10:29 AM
I'd watch it,just to see how [frick]ing weird and stupid it would have been,and would of probably killed superman at the movies permanently for a long long time
CavEl
CavEl - 1/25/2013, 10:30 AM
With the exclusion of the Animated Series and L&C, the 90s were not a very good decade for Supes.
EdGross
EdGross - 1/25/2013, 10:30 AM
Not only is it a lot money - and despite the fact I applaud the notion of doing this - but there is NO WAY that Warner Bros. is going to allow this documentary to happen using THEIR artwork (don't forget, they paid for everything that was done in the development of this project). And then shooting sequences from the Kevin Smith script? Uh... isn't that a copyright issue?

Hey, I hope it happens, but the way it's laid out in the video, it just sounds like a major legal nightmare.
jessepostal
jessepostal - 1/25/2013, 10:31 AM
What people do with their money is their own business, but I wanna hear a valid reason to give your money to this.
DRMidNite
DRMidNite - 1/25/2013, 10:31 AM
I'm with tea on this.
DCjohnny
DCjohnny - 1/25/2013, 10:39 AM
glad that Tim Burton's superman lives got canceled

imagine Nicolas cage as superman...eeuw
TonyChu
TonyChu - 1/25/2013, 10:45 AM
Just watch that one hour sit in with Kevin Smith on YouTube, he explains why this did not happen and how ludicrous some of the ideas were. For instance Superman would not fly, he would have to fight a giant spider, and polar bears were to defend the Fortress of Solitude.
KeefNCookies
KeefNCookies - 1/25/2013, 10:45 AM
AHAHAHAHAHA... good God... who in the world would wonder why, let alone pay for a documentary? This is the funniest thing I've seen in a long, long time.
pud333
pud333 - 1/25/2013, 10:51 AM
I didn't realize Nic Cage named his kid Kal-El. I'm as big a Superman fan as the next guy, but holy crap, that is just cruel.
EdGross
EdGross - 1/25/2013, 11:21 AM
True, but will he be able to play this documentary at Comic-Con? It will be interesting to see. Like I said, I'm not against the idea, I just wonder how it's going to work.
RexDartEskimoSpy
RexDartEskimoSpy - 1/25/2013, 1:02 PM
What happened? The execs at WB ran out of cocaine for a couple of days and said "What the f*ck were we thinking? This would've been a dissaster!"
thewolfx
thewolfx - 1/25/2013, 1:21 PM
Why in gods name would anyone with common sense fund this guys odd hardon for this dumbass vision of superman.

They only thing smart about tims vision was braniac
Nemeres
Nemeres - 1/25/2013, 1:31 PM
I can't believe there's more than one person other than me who's obsessed with this thing to the point of still remembering it when no one else does. It's a [frick]ing great idea and I can't wait to see it. I just wish he would cover all the failed Superman projects, not just Lives, but I'm guessing that would require even more green.
ArtisticErotic
ArtisticErotic - 1/25/2013, 1:41 PM
This would have killed Superman in the say way that Batman and Robin killed the Batman movie franchise before Begins.
npkuiper
npkuiper - 1/25/2013, 1:43 PM
That's an expensive ceace and desist letter. No way WB will allow this to be made. NO, just because it is a documentary and not for profit that doesn't mean you have the ability to infringe on copyright. Just by using the S symbol they could face the wrath of Warner Bros. That being said, maybe WB will make an official doc one day "A Filmmaker's Apocolypse: Superman Lives."
ThatWanker
ThatWanker - 1/25/2013, 3:10 PM
Has nobody ever read this?

http://www.amazon.com/Superman-Film-Television-Radio-Broadway/dp/0786431660/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1359155380&sr=8-4&keywords=bruce+scivally

It's all in this book.
Freek
Freek - 1/25/2013, 3:20 PM
"it would have been a cult classic" Yeah like Joel Schmaucher's Batman, right. Glad that saw the light of day.
JustinMSalvato
JustinMSalvato - 1/25/2013, 3:24 PM
What happened?? It was a horrible idea and people got wind of it.

Now save your money and cancel the kickstarter.
rbfn04
rbfn04 - 1/25/2013, 3:57 PM
Tim Burton happened.
oldnoname
oldnoname - 1/25/2013, 4:08 PM
Maybe they saw Nicky in the suit looking shitty as [frick] and immediately passed on it

DarthLaney
DarthLaney - 1/25/2013, 5:38 PM
This movie marks a special point in WB history. An executive came to the realisation that the movie looked terrible... And the other execs actually listened.
toyman81
toyman81 - 1/25/2013, 5:41 PM
Do you think Michael Bay's Ninja Turtle would work something like this one?
BaneFTW
BaneFTW - 1/25/2013, 5:43 PM
It's really not THAT much money for the scale he's trying to accomplish. Clerks was made for almost 30k back in '93 which would be about 50k if it were made today. Nothing is cheap, kids... especially movies.
Ancar
Ancar - 1/25/2013, 6:20 PM
I think he started wrong showing a lot of concept art from the Superman movie that would be directed by McG in this presentation.
JULEZ13
JULEZ13 - 1/25/2013, 6:48 PM
WHO CARES ABOUT WHY IT WASN'T MADE!?!? LETS JUST THANK THE CBM GODS FOR STOPPING THIS ATROCITY FROM HAPPENING!!!

But, I like the guys enthusiasm and after watching the video I would love for him to make this doc!

He makes the movie sound like it was gonna be really cool. Only problems with it were Tim Burton directing and Nic Cage playing Superman (who the F**K ever thought that was a good idea!?!?!).

Sandra Bullock as Lois Lane!?! LOL Never heard of that but its not much of a stretch, she has the personality. Still much better than Amy Adamns!
mgeoff88
mgeoff88 - 1/25/2013, 8:28 PM
I don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Tim Allen as Brainiac!? Chris Rock as Jimmy Olsen!?

And let's not forget Nic Cage as Clark Kent/Superman!?! Are you [frick]ing kidding me???

@JULEZ The movie would've killed the Superman on the big screen.
birdfists
birdfists - 1/25/2013, 9:07 PM
Kevin Smith's script actually wasn't that terrible, I thought it was pretty good. Especially for the era that it took place in, and the things that the producer demanded.
JoeMomma29
JoeMomma29 - 1/25/2013, 9:45 PM
LOL this will die just like Super Man Lives!!!
UltimaRex
UltimaRex - 1/26/2013, 5:28 AM
The only thing about this I want to see is the Nic Cage interview.

Superman Lives would have got Jon Peters off Superman sooner and killed the chances of Smallvile happening.

Superman Lives should have been made.
Nevermender
Nevermender - 1/26/2013, 6:20 AM
150k isn't astronomical for producing a documentary and he seems to have a lot of engaging ideas . It doesn't sound like a it's going to be a bunch of listening to people's gripes or lamentations. I'm excited to see this.
JULEZ13
JULEZ13 - 1/26/2013, 10:52 AM
@mgeoff88 : Oh God! I know!!! This would've been worse than Batman & Robin. smh I would never want this to happen but if all that concept art he showed is from this film then I'm curious to hear about it.

I'm extremely grateful this isn't happening. Chris Rock as Jimmy Olsen?? WTF. *FACEPALM*
Kalel59
Kalel59 - 1/26/2013, 11:45 AM
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