Zack Snyder Talks About Using Special FX In Superman

Zack Snyder Talks About Using Special FX In Superman

Zack Snyder chats with Digital Spy about Superman Special FX, Amy Adams, And when we might see the first teaser.

By WaylonJones - Mar 31, 2011 08:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman
Source: Digital Spy

In a recent interview with Digital Spy Zack Snyder talks about his up coming film Superman.



On when we might see a teaser:

"I can't say exactly, but we have to shoot some footage first(laughs). I would say not long after we are don filming."


On Amy Adams:

The awesome thing about Amy, she has incredible chops. She can be tough, but she also has this kindness too. There is that wonder that she has. I think that those things both are going to be in play in the film. We are looking to make a more real world, and I think she is able to bring a level of credibility to that world.


On the using special FX in the movie:

"Let me just say one thing about Superman, he can't do anything that's not a visual effect. He can walk around and talk, but if he's going to do something physical, that's a visual effect, because he's Superman. I think in the past people have tried to figure out how to do that with strings and putting cars on hydraulics and having him stand under it, but we're really trying to work on a way of doing this that really makes that feel real. We're trying to understand the actual physics of what would have to happen for those things to happen. It just brings reality to that whole concept of picking up a car or whatever. That's gotta be completely based on reality."


The Man Of Steel will start filming later this summer.

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6of13
6of13 - 3/31/2011, 8:50 AM
Talking of strings...Zack keeps stringing fans along, but nonetheless it's a good way to build up the hype.

SR did quite well in depicting the reality of physics i.e the mid-air airplane save scene.

marvel72
marvel72 - 3/31/2011, 9:00 AM
superman with no visual effects,sounds like smallville.
AlexDeLarge87
AlexDeLarge87 - 3/31/2011, 9:17 AM
Yeah Nolan wanted the best possible CGI director out there to do it. And i think Snyder is bullseye choice.

6of13
6of13 - 3/31/2011, 9:17 AM
Exactly @Superguy.
Nolan steers the story and Snyder the visual appearance/feel
ianb
ianb - 3/31/2011, 9:32 AM
Actually I thought that Singer did a pretty good job with the reality thing. That plane rescue was quite good, especially with the wing breaking off and the passengers being thrown around.

But I know Snyder will do an even better job with it. And of course we will probably see his signature button falling to the ground.
marvel72
marvel72 - 3/31/2011, 9:45 AM
the opening credits & the plane rescue scene are the only good scenes in superman returns.
rbfn04
rbfn04 - 3/31/2011, 9:50 AM
@marvel72 the boat rescue one was pretty good too. It's like "everything is lost' but, then, you see those red boots standing on the window and you know it will be alright...
BeeMo
BeeMo - 3/31/2011, 9:58 AM
One thing I hope, with this whole "reality" schtick will be making Superman's S curl more natural looking. That greased up Efrem Zimbalist spit curl is so annoying. Who ACTUALLY ever wears their hair that way? Let alone a physical action hero!

I loved the way John Byrne drew Superman's curl. It had a more natural feel to it. That's what I'd like to see in this "real" world Superman.
naterator
naterator - 3/31/2011, 10:09 AM
i think hes talking about if superman tries to pick a car up by anything other than the frame then it would fall apart as he was lifting it.... theyre going to put his strength and powers in perspective to reality,,,, how the effectrs of what he does would have on his environment.
marvel72
marvel72 - 3/31/2011, 10:14 AM
@ rbfn04

i can't remember that scene,i haven't seen the movie in ages.

he lifts a car up a in a nice homage to action comics 1 cover.
StrangerX
StrangerX - 3/31/2011, 10:23 AM
@naterator- you hit it on the nail bud.
LP4
LP4 - 3/31/2011, 10:25 AM
@rbfn04- Haha I might have to disagree with you on that. The boat rescue scene was very fake. You could totally tell Routh was standing on a platform that was lifting him up. I'm talking about the scene when he's lifting the boat and you have a birds-eye view of him looking up as the boat beneath him is raising.

I wasn't really impressed with the plane scene either...could've been better.

Hopefully in this new film Superman will do more than just lift heavy crap. Supes isn't simply a weight-lifter. He is also a fighter when he needs to be. It is time Snyder demonstrated just how "physical" Superman can really get.
dnno1
dnno1 - 3/31/2011, 10:26 AM
And the car was smashed. Pictures, Images and Photos



All I can say is that it's not going to look right if Superman can't pick up a car.
cjkalel
cjkalel - 3/31/2011, 10:36 AM
@marvel72 agreed and I also enjoyed the globe catch
AlternateNo4
AlternateNo4 - 3/31/2011, 10:45 AM
what are you guys smoking? he's saying EXACTLY what you want! he didn't say nothing will be a special effect, he said EVERYTHING IN THE MOVIE will be a special effect! his point is that no matter what clark does it's going to have to look different from what it would would look like if one of us did it. picking up a pen is no harder to him than picking up a car, but it uses different muscles and different mechanics.

as for the physics comment, he's talking about what naterator means and maybe more... he means that we need to see him get his weight under the plane when he lifts it, just like we cant lift anything much more than 20 pounds without getting it over our center of gravity. even if it's easy for him to lift that car, we need to see his triceps flex when he does it, not see it levitate as soon as he touches it. and it prolly means that when he lifts that car, it's weight will be transferred to one square foot instead of distributed over four tires, which means he's going to sink into the asphalt a little.
dnno1
dnno1 - 3/31/2011, 10:47 AM
@cjkalel, Now the scene where he held the 777 from the nose was not realistic. Usually airplanes carry avionics in the nose of the plane and the skins is made of fiberglass. To hold a plane like that you would have had to have grabbed it by a hard point like the area near the main landing gear.
ohsoserious
ohsoserious - 3/31/2011, 10:53 AM
So excited for this!



LP4
LP4 - 3/31/2011, 11:02 AM
@AlternateNo4- Yeah I think you and Naterator hit the point perfectly! And I like that you went a bit further with what Snyder meant. I would love to see Supes sink into the asphalt a bit while lifting a car...or to see him sort of shift the weight of the car over a shoulder or something more realistic like that.

I am pretty amped for this film.

@grif- Agreed, lol.
naterator
naterator - 3/31/2011, 11:03 AM
another example might be if he were going to use his heat vision as CK...then he would need to lower his glasses for that,,,,,otherwise he might need to get a new pair of glasses. :)
ThePublicMessages
ThePublicMessages - 3/31/2011, 11:16 AM
I wonder, if Cavill, Bale and Reynolds are not going to be in the Justice League film... then why is Warner Bros greenlighting sequels for Nolan, Snyder etc?

Thats a complete waste of money and time!

Because after WB takes over Snyder's film and realize how bad they [fricked] up, then itll be just do another reboot...

That seems to be on everybody's mind: REBOOT




Amy Adams is just as old as Margot lol






HarryBloodscreaming
HarryBloodscreaming - 3/31/2011, 11:25 AM
@AlternateNo4 -- Thank you, and beautifully put. Yeah, anyone who thinks he was talking about NOT having special effects doesn't know how to listen to a person's mouth talking words for consumption by the ears and processing by the brain. I am not at all thrilled with Snyder for this job, although I do think he will absolutely get the effects and the physics "right", and that there will be plenty of that. I don't expect a lot of heart, though. REGARDING THE SPIT CURL: I could take it or leave it, but if it's there it should be as a result of his hair getting "mussed" from all that whooshing around the sky, not because he slapped on some pomade real quick while changing in the broom closet or whatever. Superman should look like Clark cutting loose, not buttoning down. He gets to be himself when he's Supes. REGARDING THE CLASSIC ACTION COMICS CAR LIFT: In the original image, Superman is SMASHING that car, not gently lowering it to the ground in a pussy-fart scenario where he is getting duped by someone. It's an adventure image, not a "getting the cat out of the tree" moment. Don't get me wrong, I like those little boy scout beats with Supes -- in fact, they are crucial and definitive to the character -- but I think the movies so far have largely played that front and center and gone really broad, to the extent that he always seems like a little bit of a sucker. I do think he should always be a symbol of selflessness and decency, but I think representing that with too much naivete undermines that goodness he is representing; belittles it. LASTLY, REGARDING THE PLANE SEQUENCE FROM RETURNS: The shot where he lowered the plane to the ground was HORRIBLE. Now, I don't care what the nose of a plane is really made of, because that's pretty much irrelevant to a movie like this, but to make that seem to work physically, it needed Supes to lower the nose to the ground, and then fly, faster than a speeding bullet , as they say, to the tail end and lower it down. That's always bothered me about that movie, among so many other things.
gurugeorge
gurugeorge - 3/31/2011, 11:33 AM
Sounds to me like he's saying there will be a LOT of special effects - he's saying that whenever Supes does anything other than walking and talking, that's got to be a special effect. But he's saying that they're going to try to make the fx as realistic as possible. I welcome this. It's something we first saw in Spiderman 2 (the battles with Doc Ock), and again, in Hulk (with both Hulk fights and with the superpowered cop dude) to some extent. Films are gradually getting better at it. Superhero films need some way of portraying what physics calls "impulse" - that's a LOT of force being generated over a short time - so that things with lots of mass can look like they're being moved around by someone who is super strong. Sounds like they're really trying to think it through. Good.
KeithM
KeithM - 3/31/2011, 11:57 AM
Excellent stuff.

Everything we're hearing so far is all good.
wepx5150
wepx5150 - 3/31/2011, 12:07 PM
Great stuff so far! I think this will come together just fine! I want to see some PO'd Superman picking up a building and throwing it at someone's face!
valeriesghost
valeriesghost - 3/31/2011, 12:13 PM
this [frick]er looks tired. he's probably tired of talking about supes already.
dnno1
dnno1 - 3/31/2011, 12:18 PM
@AlternateNo4 - He wasn't clear about all that you just said. Snyder only said that it had to be based on reality. That means to me that certain things he just can't pick up with out it breaking under it's own weight. In other words He just won't be able to lift a car or a truck with out damaging it and the ass end of that ship he carried more than likely would have collapsed under it's own weight plus the water that was in it.
LP4
LP4 - 3/31/2011, 12:20 PM
@wepx5150- "I want to see some PO'd Superman picking up a building and throwing it at someone's face!"

LOL, couldn't have said it better myself. hahaha ;D
JWStubner
JWStubner - 3/31/2011, 12:22 PM
Why does Snyder always come across in interviews like some burnt out stoner?

I know i'm not the only one noticing this.
Darkmatter - 3/31/2011, 9:44 AM


I think you are the only one, BUT everybody else is correct with their Bryan Singer/Plane scene comments. That's exactly what Snyder is talking about here. The cause and real effect of everything Superman does.
Ranger14
Ranger14 - 3/31/2011, 12:27 PM
They are going to need to use special effects to make Cavill look imposing.

Where has there been any mention of WB greenlighting more sequels to Superman and Batman? I only see that happening IF they do not do a JLA film. Of course, the JLA film is all rumor right now anyway.
naterator
naterator - 3/31/2011, 12:49 PM
ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 3/31/2011, 1:05 PM
I'm liking what he's saying. To me it sounds that if Superman lifted a car by it's front bumper, it's front wheels wouldn't leave the ground, the bumper would simply rip off. Its those small touches that the older movies ignored but can make the movie so much more.
mastarockafella
mastarockafella - 3/31/2011, 1:42 PM
Reality in a sense of understanding the law of motion. Superman is a powerful being and Snyder needs to recognized Superman's energy and force with nature. That is what he meant by saying "We're trying to understand the actual physics of what would have to happen for those things to happen. It just brings reality to that whole concept of picking up a car or whatever. That's gotta be completely based on reality." Example of which is when Lois Lane was thrown a lot of times all over the plane in the plane sequence in Superman Returns, she never had a bruised or broken bones. In reality, that kind of force being thrown against the wall could cause you some bruises to say the least.
theartofoneness
theartofoneness - 3/31/2011, 1:46 PM
it seems like some of the first posters dont understand exactly what zack is saying. he didnt say he wont use cg effects, he said he needs to. he didnt say superman wont pick up cars, he said when he does pick them up that it will look really good. I think this will be the best superman film ever made. its really not hard to do but at the same time zack will make it better than most could hope to.
mastarockafella
mastarockafella - 3/31/2011, 2:36 PM
Reality in a sense of understanding the law of motion. Superman is a powerful being and Snyder needs to recognized Superman's energy and force with nature. That is what he meant by saying "We're trying to understand the actual physics of what would have to happen for those things to happen. It just brings reality to that whole concept of picking up a car or whatever. That's gotta be completely based on reality." Example of which is when Lois Lane was thrown a lot of times all over the plane in the plane sequence in Superman Returns, she never had a bruised or broken bones. In reality, that kind of force being thrown against the wall could cause you some bruises to say the least.
mastarockafella
mastarockafella - 3/31/2011, 3:07 PM
Reality in a sense of understanding the law of motion. Superman is a powerful being and Snyder needs to recognized Superman's energy and force with nature. That is what he meant by saying "We're trying to understand the actual physics of what would have to happen for those things to happen. It just brings reality to that whole concept of picking up a car or whatever. That's gotta be completely based on reality." Example of which is when Lois Lane was thrown a lot of times all over the plane in the plane sequence in Superman Returns, she never had a bruised or broken bones. In reality, that kind of force being thrown against the wall could cause you some bruises to say the least.
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