BASELESS SPECULATION: Will Thor become mortal at the end of THOR: THE DARK WORLD?

BASELESS SPECULATION: Will Thor become mortal at the end of THOR: THE DARK WORLD?

TheManFromMars is back to waste your time with a unfouded theory: Could Thor become mortal at the end of TDW, and what could this mean for Age of Ultron and the rest of Phase 2.

Editorial Opinion
By TheManFromMars - Aug 12, 2013 09:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Thor

Hi, I'm TheManFromMars, and I want to discuss something that's been bugging me ever since I saw the new trailer of Thor: The Dark World.

This scene:



As you can observe, Thor is wearing "Midgardian Garments" on this scene (you can even see the label on the shoulder) instead of his usual Asgardian outfit.

Now, of course, Thor could be just trying to blend in for a romantic weekend with Jane in London (I assume that's London), but I think it's possible that Thor is not wearing any Asgardian clothing because, simply put, he's no longer an Asgardian.

Wait, WHAT? WHY?

I think there's two likely possibilities for "why":


1) This is the "sacrifice" that Malekith alludes to. In order to save Asgard (and the universe) Thor must be exiled once again, or he needs to cut Asgard's connection with Earth (somehow) and becomes stranded here.

Or...

2) Odin rejects Jane and is adamant that Thor must marry an Asgardian. Thor chooses Jane against his father wishes and is either banned or leaves and loses his powers at his own will, choosing to live a mortal life with his beloved.

There are already hints of this on the footage that was exhibited on D23, where Odin compares Jane being on Asgard to a goat being on a banquet.


Okay, now that we established what made me believe that Thor could turn mortal at the end of the movie, let's talk about what I think this could mean for Avengers: Age of Ultron and how this connects with Phase 2: Simply put, I think Phase 2 will be about heroes giving up on their "heroics" to try having a normal life only for Ultron to show up and make them realize that they just can't "retire".

In Iron Man 3, we already saw Tony blowing up his suits as a promise to Pepper that he will focus on them as a couple rather than spend his time as Iron Man.

In Captain America: The Winter Soldier, everything suggests that Cap (and, possibly, Black Widow) will become disillusioned with SHIELD and may leave the organization all together. Will he stop being Captain America too? Who knows?

We won't have another Hulk movie on Phase 2, but Bruce Banner has always been reluctant to unleash the Hulk, to say the least.

So, taking all that in consideration, I believe Avengers 2 will be about a bunch of heroes who don't wanna be heroes anymore, but TOO BAD! They'll have to because, as Nick Fury said at the end of The Avengers, "We'll need them to".

So, is my theory full of holes and crap, or I'm into something? Leave your comments below.
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Minato
Minato - 8/12/2013, 10:21 PM
Great concept of the overall theme of Phase 2. Heroes trying to give up the title only to be called back into action by extenuating circumstances. I like that a lot and can see that happening but even if Thor is abandoned on Midgard he will never stop being Asgardian. His powers can be taken from him by the AllFather but I don’t think they are going to rehash that same storyline. I like the concept of Thor being stranded on earth but he will retain his power and worthiness to wield Mjonir. He wouldn’t wear his Asgardian treads at all times on earth if he thinks that this will be his new home. Cap leaving SHIELD is a very likely scenario and Tony giving up the armors has happened. I think one of the biggest secrets that SHIELD is holding from Steve and the world is that they have been working on Ultron for some time now (since the Destroyer) and that is the reason CA:TWS ties in to A2:AoU more than any other movie.
Bearjew
Bearjew - 8/12/2013, 10:48 PM
I think I'd like the idea of Thor using his human alter ego. I mean it wouldn't be like in the comics (which I like) but itd be closer, he could have a cane that transformed into mjolnir and give him his power whenever he needed it but otherwise he'd be human.
Bearjew
Bearjew - 8/12/2013, 10:55 PM
I think something they only touched on in the Avengers is that SHIELD is not to be trusted. But Nick Fury isn't SHIELD and he CAN ultimately be trusted. I think I'd like to see a few things come phase three: The Death of Nick Fury, The Ultimate Iron Man armor (possibly in Avengers Age of Ultron), Namor the Submariner. And that's pretty much it. Oh and Captain America needs to be more of a badass. And if we get to phase four then I want to see She Hulk in the Incredible Hulk 2.
pesmerga44
pesmerga44 - 8/12/2013, 11:59 PM
I don't think he will turn mortal exactly I do believe he will be exiled from Asgard or due to his battle with Malekith be unable to return to Asgard. He also could just decide to remain on Earth but saying he is mortal makes it sound like he loses his powers or try to make the Donald Blake alter ego in the movie and I feel audiences would have a real issue with Thor turning into a normal human then turning into Thor just because.
SnapperCarr
SnapperCarr - 8/13/2013, 12:11 AM
@Praetorian I think we'll see some of the mistrust of SHIELD in Cap 2.
Reasonnnn
Reasonnnn - 8/13/2013, 12:49 AM
I like this theory.
JorEllinator
JorEllinator - 8/13/2013, 1:17 AM
I hope it's executed better than IM3 if its true, your ideas are way better than.
" Oh, I took it out"
Reasonnnn
Reasonnnn - 8/13/2013, 1:20 AM
@JorEllinator to be fair, it was implied that he took it out with the extremis.
NovaCorpsFan
NovaCorpsFan - 8/13/2013, 3:39 AM
I hate the idea, but like the write up.
I just don't want another Avenger rendered practically useless.
marvel72
marvel72 - 8/13/2013, 4:00 AM
interesting idea,but i reckon he'll become king.
Orphix
Orphix - 8/13/2013, 5:44 AM
Well...movies follow three act structures and trilogies are three act structures too with each film essentially being an 'act'.

So if you use that template (and Hollywood loves em) then 'Phase two' is really 'Act two'. And at the end of act two the hero has become impedent, powerless, even dead metaphorically (and sometimes literally) and without any hope of success!! A kind of 'its always darkness before the dawn' style vibe.

So it doesn't surprise me that at the end of each of the phase two films each hero will give up their powers either voluntarily or taken from them by force.

@ManfromMars - Following your theory through to its logical conclusion the only Avenger unaccounted for is Hawkeye. Would it be up to him to 'get the band back together' for A:AoU??? It would appear so ;o)

Odin
Odin - 8/13/2013, 7:25 AM
Interesting...
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 8/13/2013, 9:21 AM
^Odin, what did you do to Thor? Tell us. Why for you ban again?
Shadowelfz
Shadowelfz - 8/13/2013, 9:37 AM
Yeah what Odin said. Very interesting indeed...

I hope this one pleasantly surprises like the first did. I was sceptical of a Thor movie but I enjoyed it a lot. Then again I've found just about every Marvel Movie enjoyable so no surprise there.
Odin
Odin - 8/13/2013, 10:29 AM
@WYLEEJAY Well not that I wouldn't want Thor to date Natalie Portman, I just had called dibs on her first(stupid, young, sexy son of mine).
saintixe56
saintixe56 - 8/13/2013, 10:49 AM
Logical.

The ultimate sacrifice for any man/woman is to give one's life. Because we are mortals.

A God cannot die because a God is immortal. He is divine. What can a God give as ultimate sacrifice? His Godhood? But we know thanks to Captain America that a 'real' God does not dress as our Asgardian friends. If Thor is not divine, he is sort of immortal. Can he give up his immortality?

Another angle is is love for Asgard. Giving up Asgard in a voluntary, self-imposed exile for (reason totally unknown) would also be considered as a sacrifice.


All in all, totally agreeing with this entry. It is logical reasoning.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 8/13/2013, 11:27 AM
Ya know what, your right! Your the freakin king of Asgard! You get first dibs. Now dust off your Gungnir, put on your sexiest Breastplate, and show her what happens when a God takes VIAGRA!!!
Zeek
Zeek - 8/13/2013, 11:31 AM
Interesting theory. I agree he shouldn't lose his powers, just choose to live a normal life.
Something I'd like to point out though, if this is the end and we are to believe the teaser trailer in hinting Thor will lose his hand then that's a convincing false hand.
BANE5000
BANE5000 - 8/13/2013, 1:52 PM
...and Thor has both of his hands in this pic , so im sure something is up with the whole " getting his hand chopped off by Loki" theory
Minato
Minato - 8/13/2013, 3:12 PM
@saintixe56
Asgardians are not immortal they are extremely long live from eating golden apples from the worlds tree.
saintixe56
saintixe56 - 8/13/2013, 4:17 PM
@2challa which removes the sacrifice as going mortal so ir will be either death or self-imposed exile

Logic has a lot to answer for.
BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 8/13/2013, 5:25 PM
If #2 is true, I will hate Thor. I mean, I'd take Sif over Jane ANYDAY.
gamecreatorjj
gamecreatorjj - 8/13/2013, 8:18 PM
Well I would like something of consequence to happen in the MCU, trapping Thor on earth would be a good way of doing so, but I wouldn't want to see him return to Asgaard...ever. I mean:
-Tony blows up suits, tony gets suit back in Avengers 2. -Captain America sacrifices himself, comes back (though this was necessary).
-The Bifrost is destroyed, Thor comes back to earth anyway.
-Loki dies, Loki comes back anyway.
-Coulsen dies, Coulsen comes back anyway.
-Bruce gains control of the Hulk, only to lose it again, then get it back again.
-Tony is rejected by Fury, only to join the Avengers anyway.
MisterMagurlypse
MisterMagurlypse - 8/14/2013, 1:11 PM
I like your 1st possibility. People would feel more for the Thor character if he was mortal. Good stuff.
gamecreatorjj
gamecreatorjj - 8/14/2013, 8:31 PM
@VirileMan haha, yeah, but they shouldn't take the bad parts of the comics and put them in the movies. I'm just saying, it's pretty cool that this is a huge interconnected universe, but it doesn't all that connected or like there is any real threat because there is nearly 0 consequence.

I'm hoping they fix it with Winter Soldier and Dark World. Maybe Shield could be taken out of the Avenger's field all together and be like a cerberus/ section 31. Perhaps its the avengers versus shield and ultron, I mean I could see it happening almost emulating civil war.

All in all, it just disappoints me when I see HUGE things happen in these movies only for them to be retracted later on, it doesn't really take away from the merits of an individual film, but it makes the universe feel less connected
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 10/11/2013, 6:50 PM
I believe it, i just think he will be human at the end of the film which would be fine with me but i'm not sure with the general consensus of comic book fans if they would be okay with Thor being human and giving up his godly powers.
Although interesting concept you have in this editorial.
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