PEACEMAKER Season 2 Won't Retcon DCEU Elements In The Way We're Expecting According To James Gunn

PEACEMAKER Season 2 Won't Retcon DCEU Elements In The Way We're Expecting According To James Gunn

We thought we knew how the second season of Peacemaker would go about retconning certain aspects of season1, but James Gunn has now confirmed that it won't happen in the way fans are expecting...

By MarkCassidy - Jul 21, 2025 03:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Peacemaker

Last year, DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn clarified some confusing comments he made about the first season of Peacemaker, which he said he didn't view as being canon with the new DCU despite the upcoming second season being firmly established as part of the burgeoning shared movie and TV universe.

While speaking to IGN, Gunn revealed that "almost all" of Peacemaker season 1 is canon, with one notable exception.

"In Creature Commandos, you'll hear them talk about things that happened in [The] Suicide Squad or Peacemaker,” Gunn explained. “Well then, those things automatically become canon.”

“The truth is almost all of Peacemaker is canon with the exception of Justice League," added Gunn. "Which we will kind of deal with in the next season of Peacemaker."

As expected, the sequence featuring members of the Justice League showing up way too late to save the day in the season finale is the one aspect that will not carry over to the second season or the wider DCU - but it doesn't sound like this is going to be retconned in the way we expected.

The Quantum Unfolding Storage Area is an extradimensional room that was created by Christopher Smith's (John Cena) father Auggie, aka White Dragon (Robert Patrick). This "pocket dimension" tech will likely explain why Peacemaker appears to encounter an alternate universe version of himself in the trailer, but it won't be used to retcon the Justice League's appearance in the season 1 finale.

"People are realizing that Peacemaker Season Two is about two dimensions, and that’s really the core of the show," Gunn explains to Rolling Stone. "But it’s not as if one of these is old DCEU and one’s DCU. That’s dealt with in a different way, very upfront in a season where most everything in Season One is canon and some things are not. And in fact, I did a podcast with [actors] Steve Agee and Jen Holland. And we did every episode of Peacemaker, and in those episodes, I talk about what’s canon and what’s not. I basically chip off little things from Peacemaker Season One that aren’t canon, like Aquaman. But most of the stuff is canon."

How the old version of the League is wiped from DCU canon remains to be seen, but it's entirely possible that Smith and his allies encountering those characters simply won't be brought up!

Gunn recently revealed that we pick up "roughly" two years after the events of season 1, with Peacemaker attempting to be taken seriously by the superhero community.

"We come into season 2 with Peacemaker knowing that he saved the world from the Butterflies," Gunn says. "He thinks he's a big star now, and he should be a real superhero. And we see at the very beginning of episode 1 that he's meeting with the group of superheroes from Superman, and he's basically interviewing for membership in the group. But they just mock him the entire time, so he's not taken seriously."

"He's still considered a punchline among all of the other metahumans, so he's starting the season in a bad place," he adds. "As are all of our heroes, all of the 11th Street kids — well, everybody but Vigilante [Freddie Stroma], who just always seems to be okay with everything."

"The new season follows Christopher 'Chris' Smith, aka Peacemaker, the vigilante Super Hero as he struggles to reconcile his past with his newfound sense of purpose while continuing to kick righteous evil-doer butt in his misguided quest for peace at any cost."

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SteviesRightFoo
SteviesRightFoo - 7/21/2025, 3:23 PM
It's a full reboot, except it isn't
foreverintheway
foreverintheway - 7/21/2025, 3:24 PM
Yeah, there's a bit of ambiguity there but I'm sure people will be reasonable about it.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/21/2025, 3:24 PM
Um, most of PM S1 is cannon, The Suicide is mostly not cannon .....

....and what about Blue Beatle? That film was actually pretty good.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 7/21/2025, 7:17 PM
@lazlodaytona - I mean ultimately when dealing with a multiverse it is always possible certain events in two timelines are almost exactly the same so for the audience it oft doesn't matter when you REALY get down to it thus Gunn's Suicide Squad the only thing that sticks out majorly as DCEU is Harley and other than the end scene in Peacemaker only the titular character and Waller's team gives any connections and then only to Suicide Squad.

I mean this is the foundation of a lot of alt timelines in comics, there is always some stuff the same in most otherverses such as Peter Parker always getten bitten by a Spider whilst in High School and Uncle Ben dying, then they play the what if game by changing pivotal points like what if Wanda Died and Quicksilver lived in age of Ultron (thus everything before that the same) if talking Marvel and same mostly true for most alt timelines in DC (like the what if Superman landed in Russia instead of America kind of stuff).

As to Blue Beatle if memory serves characters such as Batman are referenced but never seen so could be any past or future version of any such characters referenced and supposedly Blue Beatle will be made canon to the new DCU.

So the question kinda should be more limited at this point to if/how do they include a retcon explanation for the JL scene being DCEU versions (such as we seen via a dimensional portal of it was the OTHER, DCEU near identical Peacemaker talking to them) and will we get more Margot Robbie as Harley and/or was Gunns SS basicaly the same with a different looking Harley and that is about it.

Beyond that, is it realy worth worrying about, I mean we will all debate it here till the end of days but beyond us loosers... lol

Back to specificaly Peacemaker, if we are getting to see two near identical Peacemakers face to face all they need do is a comedic exposition of them comparing notes where they basicaly show their lives are NEARLY identical whilst debating which is a true hero or better type of thing, then the DCEU one is mistakenly killed by someone aiming for the DCU one, job done, for that anyway :D I mean it could be cool if well done and more than just that but...
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/21/2025, 8:20 PM
@Apophis71 - I'm feeling what you're saying. I agree. Doesn't need to be worried about.
I guess I should have just asked if BB would be cannon because I thought I saw something that Gunn said it would be. I hope it is because I thought that film was great.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 7/21/2025, 8:28 PM
@lazlodaytona - We ARE getting the actor from it doing a canon animated thing for the DCU and do seem to recall Gunn is planning on bringing him back for live action too so I'm guessing it will be or as close to it that it won't matter.

I agree, the film was great with the only REAL issues being it started out as a low budget streaming film and the last min vissual upgrades didn't all work. So for those that only watched it online no issues at all realy, lol.
Lisa89
Lisa89 - 7/21/2025, 3:26 PM
I suspect the whole season was reverse-engineered from Harcourt’s spectacular death scene.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 7/21/2025, 3:28 PM
This is going to be one of those times where you just go with it and not think too hard about the details.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 7/21/2025, 7:20 PM
@TheJok3r - Basicaly, yeh, with Peacemaker it realy was just the end scene and if in season 2 we get two Identical looking Peacemakers talking to each other easy for that disclose their lives are NEARLY identical and move on with no real worries.
AdamBrash3ar
AdamBrash3ar - 7/21/2025, 3:29 PM
huh?
TheIronDuck
TheIronDuck - 7/21/2025, 3:45 PM
The twist will be the Peacemaker variant is from the Clooney DC verse from The Flash after credit and not the old dceu because the flash messed with Keaton's timeline spaghetti repeatedly in an attempt to go home so the next Universe over would have been the last failed attempt before the current one.
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 7/21/2025, 6:26 PM
@TheIronDuck - in the absolute comic universe, there is a legion of peacemakers so maybe this could be a nod to that. A peacemaker legion maybe tied together by the multiverse. A council of peacemakers
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 7/21/2025, 3:47 PM
I'll Never forgive James Gunn for what he did to Vigilante. One of my favorite DC titles back in the '80s with a surprising shocking twist as a finale.

I swear, I think Gunn actually HATE the characters in the comics and just used them in movies and show to make them look stupid to appease his own twisted sense of "humor". And I wouldn't mind so much if it was actually funny, but it's not. Just sad.

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The version on Arrow was closer to the comic version than Gunn's version.

Hopefully when this "Gunnverse" has passed it's time, we'll get a more comic accuate story version in a live action movie or show.
noname
noname - 7/21/2025, 4:08 PM
@Nomis929 - What happened in that story and why was it so great?
narrow290
narrow290 - 7/21/2025, 4:17 PM
@Nomis929 - He was my favorite character in season one
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 7/21/2025, 4:34 PM
@narrow290 - Did you read his classic comic book run in the '80s?
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 7/21/2025, 4:37 PM
@noname - in the comic book version, Adrian Chase (the second Vigilante for DC) was a NYC district attorney in New York City who became vigilante after his wife and children were killed by a gang boss by a bomb meant for him.

But the book was more than just a revenge story ala the Punisher or Jon sable, it was series that explored the consequences when someone take revenge and a life.

He is deeply troubled over of his actions and the pain brought to others. One time though, Chase almost stopped being the his Vigilante identity beat an ex-convict who turned out to be innocent.

Eventually, He becomes ever more conflicted over the violence he engaged in and the harm he has caused to those around him and becomes increasingly mentally unstable, going back and forth with paranoia and remorse for his actions, he even murdered innocent cops who get in his way.

The guilt culminates in him committing suicide, although it looked like he was going to get reconciled with what he had done. Man it was such a shock cause it look like it was going to be a happy ending and he would continue as a more of a hero than vigilante but it didn't. man I was shocked, Suicide was really rare in comic back then. I think only Jean Grey had did it before him.

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Gunn took a real serious issue about a comic book character and turn him into a sideman "joke".
WalletsClosed
WalletsClosed - 7/21/2025, 4:49 PM
@Nomis929 - Gunn saw this and said "Let's turn this into a parody". This guy is a disease to CBM's
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 7/21/2025, 4:52 PM
@WalletsClosed - Agreed.
ImBatman4realz
ImBatman4realz - 7/21/2025, 4:54 PM
@Nomis929 - Gunn just likes trashing characters into college humor BS and everyone calls it creativity
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 7/21/2025, 4:58 PM
@ImBatman4realz - I honestly don't think he like comics or the charcters and don't have any respect for the creators or their talents as storytellers and only see chracters as something to use in his films for his personal juvenile and twisted "humor".
noname
noname - 7/21/2025, 11:51 PM
@Nomis929 - Wow that sounds awesome, man. But what if Vigilante's storyline ends the same in the DCU, with him having guilt...maybe he kills an innocent man and then ends his life. If Gunn made that his story arc from a guy who loves killing to feeling guilt and taking his life, would you commend him for that?

Also, originally Gunn's Vigilante was supposed to be a much older guy and serious but the actor he hired dropped out so Gunn rewrote him as a younger man. So initially, he wasn't supposed to be this mid 20s guy
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 7/22/2025, 12:36 AM
@noname - I would give Gunn some kudos for at least paying some kind "homage" to the lore in the comics. Anything better than have him as some side-kick buffoon to Peacemaker.

But knowing Gunn and his directional style he'll have some childish joke or something right after Adrian Kill himself.

You see my issue with Gunn's handling him as he has so far is not just in the aesthetic of Vigilante or even touching on just one event from his comic, albeit a vey key event, but he took a very interesting character with serious real world flaws that has affect real people and he could made a actual statement about it, and maybe even help anyone contemplating suicide. But he decide to make him a joke and the chraxter wasn;t created for that.
DannyBrandy20
DannyBrandy20 - 7/22/2025, 4:51 AM
@Nomis929 - He did the same thing to Phyla Vell Quasar and Adam Warlock
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 7/22/2025, 10:13 AM
@DannyBrandy20 - Ugh don't get me started on what he did to Adam Warlock (willing buffon).

Or for that matter Starlord (Dancing idiot), Drax (just an idiot), Yondo (being a bad guy) or Ego (deadbeat Dad)...
Nonameforme
Nonameforme - 7/21/2025, 4:02 PM
Harcourt imagined them there
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 7/21/2025, 4:04 PM
phucking hell
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Forthas
Forthas - 7/21/2025, 4:14 PM
@harryba11zack - The only funny thing in the film!
WalletsClosed
WalletsClosed - 7/21/2025, 4:48 PM
@harryba11zack - This garbage somehow got through production. YouTubers would figure out these terrible errors
Forthas
Forthas - 7/21/2025, 4:16 PM
“The truth is almost all of Peacemaker is canon with the exception of Justice League."

TRANSLATION:

My friends and family needed work so I had to renege on what I stated earlier about rebooting the universe. Sorry suckers!
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 7/21/2025, 4:30 PM
@Forthas

You are the Mad Men meme brought to life, lmao.

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WalletsClosed
WalletsClosed - 7/21/2025, 4:47 PM
@Forthas - Nepotism runs big in James Gunn's DCU. Won't be surprised if he kills he wife off here and then makes her Wonder Woman
Forthas
Forthas - 7/21/2025, 5:03 PM
@WalletsClosed - You might be on to something! Strange they are fast tracking a Wonder Woman film that coincides with the end of Peacemaker season 2. She could become the director of Wonder Woman also...
KamenRider
KamenRider - 7/21/2025, 8:12 PM
@Forthas - bingo. This whole roll-out was/is kind of a mess. All because Gunn did The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker before he was given the keys to a new DC universe and just couldn’t let go of his actors…and for some reason the actresses for Amanda Waller…and Harley….from the DCEU. He made sure to kill Rick Flag, Jr though right? None of his “reasoning” makes a lick of sense. Other than greed as a producer or ego. The Flash should have been a clean break for a reboot and would have had a build-in reason for it. Except they fcked up the Flashpoint inspired story by not just keeping Thomas Warne/Jeffery Dean Morgan as Batman and ending on the letter to Bruce/Affleck. That could have closed out the DCEU and opened up potential for a parallel universe with all new actors. And the further potential for a crossover between universes. His “chipping away” and “canon, not canon” comments just sound like lame@$$ excuses and not good storytelling.
Forthas
Forthas - 7/21/2025, 9:31 PM
@KamenRider - You are not wrong!
narrow290
narrow290 - 7/21/2025, 4:18 PM
Who cares? I mean, really? the only ones complaining are haters and there is no pleasing them
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 7/21/2025, 5:09 PM
@narrow290 - BINGO! Vast audience won't even know the difference
BruceWayng
BruceWayng - 7/21/2025, 4:36 PM
Gunn should just devote an entire decade and billions of dollars to explore the DCU multiverse through a bunch of really really bad movies, ultimately diluting the brand and turning both hardcore fans and normies away from the IP

Then maybe as a last ditch effort he can bring back a famous fan favorite actor like Keaton or Bale to play a big baddie like Joker in two massively over budgeted projects in an attempt to claw back any remaining audience goers who he hasn’t completely turned off by constantly telling them how racists and sexist they are for wanting to see movies based on characters that they actually like who played by actors that actually look the part.
WalletsClosed
WalletsClosed - 7/21/2025, 4:46 PM
Why is Gunnpdf still in charge of this company? Supershit, TSS, and Pissmaker is some of the worse superhero content of all time. Just terrible all around. He doesn't even know what he wants to do with this universe. More upcoming flops soon
ImBatman4realz
ImBatman4realz - 7/21/2025, 4:48 PM
Makes no sense at all. Gunn picking and choosing here and there is more of a clusterf[ri]ck, than the FoX-Men movies ever were. Here’s a summary—

Superman is a reboot/new franchise, but it references both Creature Commandos, and Peacemaker through its cameos. Peacemaker and Creature Commandos reference The Suicide Squad (2); while Peacemaker also references the DCEU as a whole. Squad 2 references Suicide Squad (1), which references Batman v Superman ending, which referenced Man of Steel.

His answer of “most of Peacemaker season one is canon” is creatively lazy, and only makes a bigger mess. It makes even less sense than his DCU slate announcement made where he stated Aquaman 2 leads into The Flash which starts the DCU, which leads into Blue Beetle, which leads into the first DCU project Creature Commandos which leads into the “real real real start” of the DCU 🙄.
The real reasoning for this jumbled mess is that he’s keeping all projects he has worked on, while giving poor explanations as to what the f[ri]ck the canonical explanation will be.

Then we recently find out his original DCEU pitch was for a Krypto movie with Superman as a side character and it’s no wonder they put him on Squad 2… LMFAO.
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