RUMOR: Story Details For Jeff Loveness' Take On AVENGERS: THE KANG DYNASTY And Eventual MCU Reboot Revealed

RUMOR: Story Details For Jeff Loveness' Take On AVENGERS: THE KANG DYNASTY And Eventual MCU Reboot Revealed

Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania writer Jeff Loveness is no longer writing Avengers: The Kang Dynasty, but we have new details on what his version of the story looked like along with plans for a reboot...

By JoshWilding - Jan 23, 2024 10:01 AM EST

Rumours that Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania writer Jeff Loveness had been fired from his role as Avengers: The Kang Dynasty's writer first started doing the rounds last year. 

The decision appeared to be made in response to the Ant-Man threequel, a movie Marvel Studios believed it had got right. Now, Avengers: Secret Wars scribe Michael Waldron (Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness) will write that and whatever The Kang Dynasty ends up being called (internally, it's been referred to as Avengers 5 since Jonathan Majors was fired as Kang).

Scooper Daniel Richtman has shared new details on Loveness' firing, confirming it was down to the response to his Ant-Man movie and not because Marvel Studios is moving away from Kang. 

It's said that his version of Avengers: The Kang Dynasty had the majority of the Multiverse Saga's leads (minus Thor, for some reason) battling Kang's Variants on Earth. Despite that villain's presence, the story was supposedly largely grounded and light on full-blown Multiversal elements. 

Waldron's vision is thought to be similar but puts a greater emphasis on the Multiverse before giving alternate reality heroes a much larger role in Avengers: Secret Wars.

As for the search for a new Kang actor, it's underway, but any sort of decision is likely months off. 

We've already told you of plans to eventually reboot the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and Ritchmain has learned it will only be a soft reboot with many of the franchise's newer heroes sticking around on a different Earth that's also home to both mutants and the Fantastic Four. Perhaps most intriguing is the mention that What If...?'s Kahhori is being lined up for a live-action debut!

Talking last year, MCU and Loki executive producer Kevin Wright weighed in on whether changes made to the next Avengers movies had any sort of impact on the show's second season. He also confirmed plans for Waldron to write both of those upcoming blockbusters. 

"No, nothing affected our finale," he confirmed. "I think I said elsewhere earlier when the show was first coming out, the story that is on screen is the one that we set out to make remarkably so no one was coming down telling us we had to connect or set up anything for the future. It was sort of finish our story that we started."

"As far as where it's all going, I can't say and not because I am being coy, we're not a part of those projects," Wright said in regards to the next Avengers movies. "What I would say is, I mean, I know Michael Waldron is working on them and he loves obviously this world as he helped create it."

Avengers: The Kang Dynasty is currently scheduled to arrive in theaters on May 1, 2026, with Avengers: Secret Wars set to follow on May 7, 2027.

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MadThanos
MadThanos - 1/23/2024, 10:13 AM
Mark my words, both Avengers movies will underperform despite a a huge success with Deadpool 3 and Kevin Feige will get fired.
Forthas
Forthas - 1/23/2024, 10:21 AM
"...it will only be a soft reboot with many of the franchise's newer heroes sticking around on a different Earth that's also home to both mutants and the Fantastic Four."

This seems like it might be incorrect given they have already introduced two mutants in the MCU on the current iteration of earth.
Fogs
Fogs - 1/23/2024, 11:21 AM
@Forthas - I have the impression they'll come up with some reasons for the mutant gene existing but not manifesting unless forced (like the mind Stone with Wanda and Pietro, or the bangle with Kamala)
Forthas
Forthas - 1/23/2024, 12:06 PM
@Fogs - While they have not explicitly established Wanda and Pietro as mutants...they have done so for Kamala and Namor. So that is two people that have been dubbed mutants that already exist.
Fogs
Fogs - 1/23/2024, 12:56 PM
@Forthas - I see what you mean. But I think they'll come up with something like that for the current MCU timeline, if ever.
tRuckRogers46A
tRuckRogers46A - 1/23/2024, 2:54 PM
@Forthas - Kamala was not called a mutant. Her buddy noted that she had a 'mutation'.
Namor was described as a 'mutant' due to his mixed parentage.

No one has been explicitly outed as a Mutant in the MCU.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/23/2024, 4:43 PM
@tRuckRogers46A - Were a bunch of them in She-Hulk too but until the Xmen and co fully arrive not entirely surprising a word that could refer to for instance someone with Down Syndrome is not being explicitly used to clump characters together as a race called Mutants when they are all cropping up in isolated pockets, not all related and/or living together in one place or special institute.
JDL
JDL - 1/23/2024, 10:10 PM
@Forthas - It should also be noted that a mutation need not be from the X-Gene. That would differentiate it from the X-Men assuming the X-men continue with that particular bit of pseudo-science.
Origame
Origame - 1/23/2024, 10:22 AM
Yes, keep the sh!t from phases 4 and 5 no one cares about but retcon out the good sh!t that got us interested in the mcu in the first place 🙄

Also, a live action kahhori just puts more emphasis on why that character shouldn't have been in what if to begin with.
mountainman
mountainman - 1/23/2024, 10:39 AM
@Origame - If they wanted Native American heroes, they have some of the best ones in all of Marvel comics that can come in when the mutants are introduced. Dani Moonstar >>>>>> Kahori.
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/23/2024, 10:42 AM
@mountainman -

Red Wolf
Thunderbird
Warpath
Shaman (Alpha Flight)
Talisman (Alpha Flight)
mountainman
mountainman - 1/23/2024, 10:45 AM
@marvel72 - Oh yeah I just listed my favorite one.

Also Forge and Black Crow.
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