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nova480s
nova480s - 11/20/2019, 6:31 AM
goddamn it..
Unites
Unites - 11/20/2019, 8:37 AM
@nova480s - His releationship with Harley Quinn could be interesting to explore in a 'characterstudy'. Since it's implied that he killed his therapist at the end of the mocie, it could lead directly to Quinn showing up as a young and naive trainee or something.
Antagonist
Antagonist - 11/20/2019, 6:33 AM
WHAT?
Tcb97
Tcb97 - 11/20/2019, 6:33 AM
I mean, I kinda do wanna see more of Phoenix Joker, but at the same time, what more can they do without the inclusion of Batman? I'm more interested in similar type of origin story for someone like Lex Luthor, Mr. Freeze or Harvey Dent.
imnotadoor
imnotadoor - 11/20/2019, 6:33 AM
make it about the for profit prison system this time !
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/20/2019, 6:37 AM
knocturnalzen10
knocturnalzen10 - 11/20/2019, 6:39 AM
@BlackBeltJones -none what's so ever .... it did enough leaving things ambiguous to working on other villains origins if that's the case


Hey Philips just go for Lex next then he has a awesome rich history
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/20/2019, 6:40 AM
@knocturnalzen10 - he may inadvertently hurt the first film with this one
knocturnalzen10
knocturnalzen10 - 11/20/2019, 6:52 AM
@BlackBeltJones - he definitely will , if they go thru with it imo .... that was a lovely stand alone and should be left as that .
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 11/20/2019, 6:37 AM
"JOKER Sequel Officially In The Works"
Oh noo
"As Todd Phillips Plans More DC Villain Origin Movies"
OHH F*CK NOOO

Chances of Phoenix's Joker being integrated in some capacity with Battinson just got bigger.
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 11/20/2019, 6:44 AM
@Spidey91 -
This was exactly what I was afraid stupid WB was going to do. You would think that they would learn to tell more higher brow creator-driven DC standalone movies, but nope.

Instead they completely missed the point of why Joker was a success, and are turning DC Black into a bunch of pointless villain movies. It's a bloody waste...
MarvelDCAllDay
MarvelDCAllDay - 11/20/2019, 7:05 AM
@Darkknight2149 - Wasn’t that going to be the point of DC Black anyways?
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 11/20/2019, 7:18 AM
@MarvelDCAllDay -
No, the point was to tell more creator-driven standalone stories that innovate from the traditional comic book movie formula. That's what most people want anyway.

Instead, WB is trying to push villain origins as their new gimmick and I guarantee you it's going to burn out as fast as the DCEU did.

There are so many things they could have done with these standalones. Kingdom Come, Superman: Red Son, Superman: Secret Identity, an R-rated Hellblazer horror movie, a gothic arthouse Swamp Thing movie, a gritty low budget The Question movie, ETC. The possibilities are endless.

But WB is so damn reactionary and they only know how to copy other shit. First they tried to copy Nolan for their direction with the DCEU. Then they tried to copy Marvel. Now they're copying what Todd Phillips did with Joker. This DC Origins thing isn't going to last.
KWilly
KWilly - 11/20/2019, 6:38 AM
Todd: “Guys I’m serious. I only plan to do one Joker movie, because it’s a self contained, standalone story.”

WB: “That’s cool.”

*Joker hits a billion*

WB: “Change of plans, Toddy boi..."
DeadWade213
DeadWade213 - 11/20/2019, 6:39 AM
Well now you do the Godfather but it's the Joker. Show his rise to power. Maybe the film takes place years later and Bruce is a young Batman. Maybe it's a prequel to Battison's movie.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/20/2019, 6:40 AM
Was hoping Phillips would stick to the standalone principle




It’s like one of Scorsese’s standalone classics getting a sequel.
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 11/20/2019, 6:40 AM
Jesus Christ, they're doing exactly what everyone was afraid they were going to do and only making these standalones a bunch of villain origin movies. What a [frick]ing waste of potential.

Now watch it crash and burn as they learn all the wrong lessons from Joker.
Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 11/20/2019, 6:43 AM
Phillips did say he would only do a Joker sequel if they felt they had a story interesting enough to warrant it. Phoenix said the same thing, if both are coming back then count me intrigued. Loved Joker so I'm hoping for something on the same level.



As for the rest of it? A bunch of other Comic villain origin movies? Yeah no, wrong lesson there guys. We don't need that shit.
DeadWade213
DeadWade213 - 11/20/2019, 6:46 AM
@Mrcool210 - So you telling me that you don't want a Polka-dot man movie?
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/20/2019, 6:46 AM
The Joker is about to get a sequel and maybe even a franchise

And then there is Superman...
JohnMarston220
JohnMarston220 - 11/20/2019, 7:06 AM
@BlackBeltJones - lol so true. I find it very strange that we have a stand alone Joker and Harly Quinn movie before Flash....
FleischerSupes
FleischerSupes - 11/20/2019, 7:39 AM
@BlackBeltJones - The most epic film scream. We'll always have Superman '78.*sigh*
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 11/20/2019, 6:46 AM
"My movie has a very raw and real anticapitist message, let me show you how commited I am to that message by making more of these so you can give me more money" 🤔

And just like that whatever good will they got from this crumbles under the weight of their own greed.
MuadDib
MuadDib - 11/20/2019, 6:47 AM
What a cash grab. I haven’t seen Joker, just like I haven’t seen Venom. I don’t support garbage. I haven’t watched Venom on TV either, and I’ll NEVER watch Joker .. it hits a 1B and all of a sudden sequels and more stand alone movies?!

What a dumpster fire.

Smh
Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 11/20/2019, 6:52 AM
@MuadDib - "I don’t support garbage. I’ll NEVER watch Joker"

Why not watch Joker? General consensus is that it's good, how would you know it's garbage if you haven't seen it?
JonesTheCat
JonesTheCat - 11/20/2019, 6:55 AM
@MuadDib - Joker is one of the thinnest weakest movies, the positive reaction around it is basically what happened with Bohemian Rhapsody
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