THE BATMAN Director Matt Reeves Sets The Record Straight On Whether PART II Is Elseworlds Or Set In The DCU

THE BATMAN Director Matt Reeves Sets The Record Straight On Whether PART II Is Elseworlds Or Set In The DCU

With The Batman Part II now gearing up to start shooting next Spring, filmmaker Matt Reeves has set the record straight on the sequel's "Elseworlds" status and whether he'll eventually work in the DCU.

By JoshWilding - Sep 18, 2025 06:09 AM EST
Filed Under: The Batman

DC Studios' approach to rebooting the DCEU has certainly been unique. Rather than completely start from scratch, James Gunn and Peter Safran have kept some actors from the past, recast others, and placed any non-canon projects under the somewhat vague "Elseworlds" banner.

With the DCU-set The Brave and the Bold on the way, an argument could be made that The Batman franchise should have really been scrapped to make way for a new version of the Caped Crusader. That would have been a blow for fans of Matt Reeves' take on Bruce Wayne, but two competing versions of Batman on screen at the same time seems like a risk. 

There's been a lot of speculation about the possibility of The Batman being folded into the DCU, with even Gunn saying it was considered when DC Studios was formed. 

The filmmaker and studio executive has since reigned in expectations, acknowledging that the DCU is struggling to find a fresh and compelling take on Batman. Now, Reeves himself has chimed in, confirming that The Batman franchise will be an "Elseworlds' franchise while addressing the possibility of one day working in the DCU.

"We haven't talked about anything like that," he started. "We have had conversations about how things could work and all that kind of stuff, just in general. So, of course, it would be a lot of fun. What I really want to do is play out these stories that we began and arrive at the conclusion I've hoped we would arrive at from the beginning. It's very exciting."

"First of all, I'm flattered. That's very kind of James to say. It would be really exciting to work with them, of course. We're working with them on [The Batman Part II]," Reeves continued. "I mean, it's a DC, so, like, it's Elseworld, but it is DC, so it's theirs as well. What the future brings and what I am doing will become clear when it comes."

This isn't overly surprising, but the door is now closed on any sort of crossover. Reeves and Mattson Tomlin's script is finished, and it's clear now that the filmmaker didn't set out to find a way to bring Robert Pattinson's Dark Knight into the same world as Superman and Peacemaker

While some fans will be disappointed by this news, The Batman being in the DCU was always wishful thinking, and Pattinson agreeing to star in a slate of movies and TV shows for Gunn was never going to happen. 

Will he and Safran have found a Batman by the time Reeves' sequel is released? That's TBD, though with Reeves looking to helm a trilogy, there will inevitably come a time when The Batman and The Brave and the Bold franchises are in proximity to each other. 

The Batman Part II is set to be released in theaters on October 1, 2027.

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BeyondtheFuture
BeyondtheFuture - 9/18/2025, 6:44 AM
Pretty sure he just indirectly confirmed plans for Crisis on Infinite earths.
UltimaRex
UltimaRex - 9/18/2025, 7:41 AM
@BeyondtheFuture - already done.
Juicebox316
Juicebox316 - 9/18/2025, 7:16 AM
A Brave and the Bold story sounds fun, but also - for simplicity - you have a Batman RIGHT THERE waiting. If Pattinson wants out after the trilogy, fine. But if he's game to continue, just retcon it. We've established in Superman that this world is very comic-heavy, so why not lean into that. Metropolis, on any given day, is more fantastical due to being the home of Superman. Gotham is dark, dingy, and crime-ridden - hence the need for Batman to begin with. Make these cities their own characters, like they were in the comics. Metropolis is different from Gotham, is different from Central City, and so on.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 9/18/2025, 8:17 AM
@Juicebox316 - thankfully this isnt ever happening.
Juicebox316
Juicebox316 - 9/18/2025, 8:39 AM
@McMurdo - Cool, man.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 9/18/2025, 11:24 AM
@Juicebox316 - totally, dude.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/18/2025, 6:40 PM
@Marty McMurdo, back from the future.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/18/2025, 6:41 PM
timelines can change.
PatientXero
PatientXero - 9/18/2025, 7:21 AM
He would say that, even if it is going to be in the DCU.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 9/18/2025, 7:27 AM
@PatientXero - What do they gain by hiding the fact that is in the DCU if that were the case?
McMurdo
McMurdo - 9/18/2025, 8:18 AM
@Urubrodi - literally nothing. Kids still deluding themselves is all.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/18/2025, 6:42 PM
@Urubrodi - that AW Shit! moment when they finally reveal Battinson in Clayface.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 9/18/2025, 7:16 PM
@ObserverIO - Doubt there will be many people showing up for Clayface in the first place. If he were in it would be better to disclose the information beforehand so more people go to the movies to check it out.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 9/18/2025, 7:35 AM
People need to accept this fact and move on. Not everything has to be part of a shared universe.
Biggums
Biggums - 9/18/2025, 7:35 AM
This Bats lacks the presence, the tone to stand next to Gunn's Supes, let alone boss around the League.
ClungeOfSteel
ClungeOfSteel - 9/18/2025, 8:20 AM
@Biggums - EXACTLY! GEORGE CLOONEYS BATMAN IS EXACTLY THE RIGHT FIT FOR THE DCU!

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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/18/2025, 7:36 AM
“𝐈 𝐦𝐞𝐚𝐧, 𝐢𝐭'𝐬 𝐚 𝐃𝐂, 𝐬𝐨, 𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, 𝐢𝐭'𝐬 𝐄𝐥𝐬𝐞𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐥𝐝, 𝐛𝐮𝐭 𝐢𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐃𝐂“…

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Retrofitting Pattinson’s Batman into the DCU would have been like putting a square peg into a round hole given what’s been established about his version and how early he is into his crime fighting career aswell as the info we know about DCU Batman such as him already having had a son and apparently a Bat-family to an extent.

Plus I would rather let Reeves tell the kind of stories he wants to tell in his stylized yet grounded universe (which I’m sure as a filmmaker himself Gunn understands) while have the DCU Batman be more comic booky & fantastical to better fit into the wider universe.
UltimaRex
UltimaRex - 9/18/2025, 7:46 AM
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Now cast Cavill as the DCU Batman and we're all set...
THEKENDOMAN
THEKENDOMAN - 9/18/2025, 8:15 AM
@UltimaRex - Now that is something I can [frick]ing stand behind
Biggums
Biggums - 9/18/2025, 8:37 AM
@UltimaRex - that's actually not bad.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/18/2025, 6:49 PM
@UltimaRex - And Affleck as the Reevesverse Superman.
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Then do a multiversal Superman V Batman crossover movie with Affleck's Superman and Cavill's Batman.

The ultimate Mindnuke.
WEAPONXOXOXO
WEAPONXOXOXO - 9/18/2025, 8:12 AM
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TheNewYorkerr
TheNewYorkerr - 9/18/2025, 8:13 AM
RIP Jimmy Kimmel
Biggums
Biggums - 9/18/2025, 9:28 AM
@TheNewYorkerr - kirk on a Pack💨
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/18/2025, 7:03 PM
@TheNewYorkerr - Everyone's getting cancelled over this dude. Kirk is the new transgender.
THEKENDOMAN
THEKENDOMAN - 9/18/2025, 8:15 AM
I’m sorry but what the [frick] are we reading here.

For [frick]s sake
Nolanite
Nolanite - 9/18/2025, 8:20 AM
@THEKENDOMAN -

We are reading some more bullshit from Joshua Wilder....

For Nolanites sake.
THEKENDOMAN
THEKENDOMAN - 9/18/2025, 12:06 PM
@Nolanite - Yeah, @JoshWilding is my boy, but he needs to be called out when he drops some bollocks.

But then again, this is called comicbookmovie.com, every news, great, good, weak, strong and a [frick]ing load of bollocks [frick]ing counts, and this should be the first place to read it.

So on that note, we can hate the player, but we can't hate the game.

The Kendoman Out
(c) @Nolanite
Nolanite
Nolanite - 9/18/2025, 8:18 AM
So we shouldn't be expecting anymore of these articles right?

Since Matt has put the nail on the coffin? Since it is now abruptly clear that it will never be in the DCU.

Nahh I think Joshua Wilder will continue to give us plenty of more articles regarding this.

Nolanite out
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 9/18/2025, 12:41 PM
@Nolanite - I feel like Reeves has been pretty clear about this from the beginning and its only fan casting to want his Batman as the DCU Batman.

Its not happening, and it was never happening. Lets knock it off.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/18/2025, 7:06 PM
@Nolanite - In the same video he says that they've had conversations about how it would work if he ever did a DCU movie.
SATW42
SATW42 - 9/18/2025, 8:40 AM
Has this record been set straight so many times that's is basically linear at this point?
tRuckRogers46A
tRuckRogers46A - 9/18/2025, 8:45 AM
Why is this still a question? They don't need to incorporate Reeves' Batman into the DCU but could if they ever needed to.

This Bats is only in year 2.
Any DCU Batman should be year 8 plus, preferably Yr 10 plus.
Easy to say Reeves trilogy is early years, so no need for confusion or competition with an older DCU Batman with years of experience.
RedFury
RedFury - 9/18/2025, 8:56 AM
@tRuckRogers46A - yeah this feels like the only way they could ever fit the two together.

But with how Gunn is establishing the DCU and it's history, Reeves Batman and Gotham really don't have a way into his world. Gunn is creating a shared world that seems to be very influenced by the heroes, and villains that exist in it. And it's clear Reeves world has no trace of meta humans what so ever, making their joint existence a very hard one to have any flow. He could definitely pull a Peacemaker season 2 and retcon the stuff that doesn't fit, but that would be a pretty big stretch. I'm very okay with what Reeves is doing being it's own thing. Gives us the best of both types of DCU stories. One that feels more grounded, and one that feels fantastical.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/18/2025, 7:10 PM
@RedFury - It's not clear that there are no metahumans. There aren't any in The Batman or The Penguin, but that doesn't mean there aren't any.

There wasn't any in Iron Man or Black Widow either, but they're still set in the MCU. There weren't any superheroes in Batman: Year One.
RedFury
RedFury - 9/18/2025, 7:38 PM
@ObserverIO - it's a fair point, and obviously not something they can't write in. But I still feel like it just doesn't do the DCU justice to shoehorn a world in just so Pattinson can be the DCU Batman. I'd much rather a Batman story that has these things from the start so that the whole DCU feels properly cohesive you know? But a good writer can work wonders, so it's not something I would object to as long as it's done well.
MuadDib
MuadDib - 9/18/2025, 8:50 AM
We could get casting announcements for the DCU Batman and ppl would still be holding on to the lingering hope that Pattinson’s Batman will crossover…

Just like the Snyder fans who can’t let go and move on

It’s an elseworlds story. Period. Deal with it.
mck13
mck13 - 9/18/2025, 8:59 AM
Netflix is buying DC & Gunn with his small cult like fan base will be done. This tone is ruining DC. The Penguins has 5 Million PLUS viewers per episode while Peacemaker is struggling to get 700K!!!! All the numbers are bad for Gunn who admitting doesn't know anything about Superman & DC! He thinks Green Lantern can beat Superman when Lanterns power is thought constructs...The only thing that beats superman is MAGIC, KRYPTONITE & NO SUN!!!! But I guess in Gunns Verse his superman gets beat by ANYONE! He's just a guy in red panties so kids will like him while the movie is full of CURSING & WEIRD SEXUAL INNUENDO!!!!!!!!
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 9/18/2025, 9:10 AM
Elseworld baby! Finish out that Trilogy and then Gunn can drop his Batman movies! Batman Me Out BABY!!!!!!!
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 9/18/2025, 10:07 AM
"it's Elseworld, but it is DC, so it's theirs as well. What the future brings and what I am doing will become clear when it comes."

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