Will Bane be as awesome/better thanthe Joker was in TDK?

The Joker became a pop culture icon and is regarded as one of the greatest villains in movie history. Bane brings something that Batman has yet to face: the ability to go blow-for-blow with the Dark Knight. Can Tom Hardy pull off as great a performance as Heath Ledger did?

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By TheBostonBatman - Jan 30, 2012 05:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Batman
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Heath Ledger gave us an interpretation of The Joker that we have never seen before. Jack Nicholson had a great Joker, but it was something similar to what we had seen from comics and even the '60s TV show. Heath Ledger's Joker completely blew Jack's out of the water. Ledger's was darker,creepier, and just more badass. Heath didn't play the Joker, he WAS the Joker. He single-handedly owned both Batman and Gotham. He destroyed Gotham's new hero, Harvey Dent, killed the love of Bruce's life, killed Commissioner Loeb, and brought the city to it's knees. The Joker beat Batman, which has never happened in a CBM; he was able to convince Harvey to spare his life and "introduce a little anarchy". Let's face it, the Joker wasn't the most physically-overpowering guy, but he did kick Batman's ass with the help of a few dogs in their final battle. Bane is known to be a tough, physical brute, but he is also a mastermind behind all of that muscle. He won't go to the bother of doing some of the things that Joker did, and his ultimate goal seems much bigger than what The Joker's was. But the Million dollar question is can he be as cool as the Joker was?

Traditionally in trilogies, the first one introduces everything, and you're impressed,but the second one REALLY blows you away, and the third one either sucks (Spiderman 3, X-men 3), or wraps things up nicely but isn't as awesome as the second one (Return of the Jedi). There some exceptions to this (Bourne Ultimatum, Revenge of the Sith), but usually the second movie in that trilogy sucked. Batman Begins was the greatest CBM at that time, but the The Dark Knight happened. Scarecrow and Ra's al Ghul were Cool because they had never been done before, but The Joker was on a whole different level. Can Nolan's Bane take it up a notch from the Joker? I believe that in terms of physically destroying Gotham and Batman,yes,he can take it up a notch from the Joker. If he is indeed with the League of Shadows and is trained just as good as Batman is at fighting, he will bring on a new challenge to Batman. They will go at it more than once,which is something Batman has never had to do. Bane WILL physically beat down Batman and most likely take him prisoner from what we have seen in the trailer. Breaking his back is lame IMO and Nolan will have Bane do something else to Batman. Breaking is back is too unrealistic, like who breaks someone's back when they fight? Plus Bruce was using a cane, if someone broke you're spine, you wouldn't be able to walk, period. Bane will blow away us CBM'rs, but to the casual movie fan that knows, a.) batman is a super-hero that has a lot of movies, b.) he has a Batcave with a s***load of gadgets and vehicles, c.) he has a sidekick named Robin, and d.) his arch-nemesis is THE JOKER. I don't believe Bane will be a pop-culture icon like the Joker is, but I do believe that Tom Hardy will OWN the part and it this movie will be a kick-ass finish to the greatest CBM trilogy of all time, if not THE greatest trilogy in movie-history.

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marvel72
marvel72 - 1/30/2012, 5:51 AM
no he looks & sounds shit.

next question......
JDUKE25
JDUKE25 - 1/30/2012, 5:59 AM
I think he can. Hardy is a great actor.
Name
Name - 1/30/2012, 6:12 AM
ras al ghul went 'blow for blow' with batman. The fights in these films are pathetic anyway. When they fight it probably wont look any good.
Darkhaven
Darkhaven - 1/30/2012, 7:09 AM
There's a very, very, very slim chance of Bane being good in this flick. IMO, Hardy is too far off mark to equal what Bane represented in his comic introduction. There is just far too much silliness present in the trailers and such that have been shown for TDKR to make me as excited to see it as I was the first two. The 'come at me, bro' stance was pretty good though.

Also, the breaking of a person's back is nowhere near lame; that's how you end a mofo. Bane isn't trying to bloody Batmans' lip because a 'Yo Mama' contest went horribly wrong. And Bane sure as hell isn't going to give Bats an old school junior high swirly (though, that would be awesomely funny). If your back is snapped by someone, that is complete ownage on every possible level. Also, you absolutely can survive a broken back, depending on its location, the severity of the break, and the damage to the surrounding soft tissue.

@Name: You beat me to the punch on the martial prowess of movie Batman. Holy crap his physical scraps have been lackluster as all hell. I'm not joking in the slightest when I say that Michael Keaton as Batman did WAY more hand to hand stuff than any other Bat actor, and he could barely move in his gear.
theperm
theperm - 1/30/2012, 10:02 AM
Bruce will probably become paralyzed, but he's a billionaire so he can just fix himself by making his batsuit more like a cyborg suit. IDK, im thinking there could be a batman beyond ending considering Adam West is in a scene. Who better to play old batman than old batman?
HAQ
HAQ - 1/30/2012, 11:33 AM
What? Adam West? Where's THAT memo?
Gerrit
Gerrit - 1/30/2012, 11:58 AM
Nicholson's Joker is regarded as one of the best villains in movie history. Anyway, Bane has everything to be just as good as Joker in TDK.
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 1/30/2012, 2:09 PM
What Gassy said.
sonofsamadams
sonofsamadams - 1/30/2012, 2:50 PM
Veryyy good article!
I agree with all of your points.
Especially with how Bane won't be as big of a Pop culture icon as the Joker was, however, come Halloween this year, expect Bane costumes to be selling like hot cakes.
Tom Hardy was the right choice.
Yeah, you could have gotten someone bigger, but may I remind you that with the abundance of huge, buff actors in Hollywood, very few have the acting capabilities Nolan is looking for.
The Dark Knight Rises will for sure be the movie event of the summer.

@gaston
Very true,
Each Villain has their own agenda in these movies. They really aren't that comparable in the way people are trying to compare them.
Scarecrow-fear
Joker-Chaos
Bane-Destruction
superbatspiderman
superbatspiderman - 1/30/2012, 2:58 PM
Tom Hardy is a great actor so I think he will be a complete bad ass. The Joker is the greatest criminal mastermind but Bane is an equally bad one and he can kick the crap out of you.
TheLoveDoc
TheLoveDoc - 1/30/2012, 3:23 PM
@Marvel72
No...not even. You don't need to be pre DC to know this will be a solid movie.
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/30/2012, 5:59 PM
@ TheLoveDoc

it'll probably be a good film but i think bane looks & sounds shit,i also think it'll be the worse of the trilogy.
Darkhaven
Darkhaven - 1/31/2012, 7:18 AM
@TheBostonBatman: By silliness, I mean that I think that Bane looks ridiculous. I've been saying since they first started showing pics of him that if DC didn't give the public his character's name, no one would have a clue who Tom Hardy was supposed to play. One of my my best friends is a huge Batman fan, and he says the same thing. They deviated from his comic formula way too much.

Then, Nolan's Batwing hit the scene...and I can't stop thinking how it looks like Bats is about to join Sigourney Weaver in her fight against Aliens. That, or he's going to exterminate humans in the Terminator future. The Tumbler was bad enough to me, mainly because Batman does more collateral damage to the city with it than the villains he's fighting! What happened to the Batwing's use in surgical strikes and stealth missions?

I don't know, I guess there's just too much deviation from Batman for me to dig it. It's like the serious tone and 'real world' feel Nolan wants are disagreeing with the CBM aspects this time around.

LoudNoises
LoudNoises - 2/1/2012, 10:47 AM
I think it will come down to a matter of preference in what you like in a villain. Some people will like Bane because he is brutal and physical, and some will always prefer joker because of what Ledger did with the role and... Well, it's joker!

As far as Bane breaking Batman's back, it's really anyones call. But the reason Bruce is scene with a cane is because of the bullet and the fall in TDK I think. I know this movie takes place 8 years later but I think in the trailer when we see Gordon talking about Dent and we see the siloette of Bruce on top of Wayne Manor with the cane over seeing the speech and he turns and walks away... I think this part occurs shortly after the events in TDK and Bruce is still recovering. Which would explain why he is hiding away during the ceremony.
NeoBaggins
NeoBaggins - 2/3/2012, 2:55 AM
Jack Nicholson was a good Joker because... it was Jack Nicholson. It was great for the time; 1989. And because it was Nicholson, people didn't care about stuff like him being a fatass Joker. So basically, he could have played ANY villain and got props.

I feel Hardey's Bane will be great. He has true villain presense and is unique. He doesnt speak as youd think he would speak considering his look. He has true villain flare, classic villain flare. I think he will carve his own name for the series, just as Ledger did. I cant really get into the whos better thing, but if I had to indulge, I'd say I'm liking Bane. I think hes going to be amazing.
PeterParker1991
PeterParker1991 - 2/5/2012, 7:41 AM
Don't compare Bane to Heath Ledger's Joker. Two totally different characters and actors. Joker battles Batman psychologically, testing his morals, and Bane is a good match for Batman in terms of giving him a physical challenge to overcome. Tom Hardy will do good in his own way. If he was chosen to be in this film it was for a reason.
PeterParker1991
PeterParker1991 - 2/5/2012, 7:50 AM
@BostonBatman: Both. But since I think TDKR is going to be probably the biggest movie of the entire summer, there's not as much being shown, but at the same time just enough to get people into theatres. As for TDK, I think there was too much from the film shown, at least that's what I'd say if I'd never seen it before. Honestly, both make me smile but I'm more pumped for TDKR. It's a shame though that it's the end, but at least we'll have Catwoman and Bane on the big screen again. Done right this time.
SpiderFan35
SpiderFan35 - 2/6/2012, 11:32 AM

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