BLUE BEETLE Features A MAN OF STEEL Reference Despite Jaime Reyes' Supposed Ties To The DCU

BLUE BEETLE Features A MAN OF STEEL Reference Despite Jaime Reyes' Supposed Ties To The DCU

DC Studios' co-CEO James Gunn has said Blue Beetle is the first DCU movie, but director Angel Manuel Soto is hyping the project by promising fans a nod to Zack Snyder's DCEU blockbuster Man of Steel...

By JoshWilding - Aug 14, 2023 05:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Blue Beetle

Original plans called for Blue Beetle to be released on what was then known as HBO Max. Alongside Batgirl, it was to be the first of a number of lower-budgeted DCEU titles made for streaming in an effort to expand that shared world and increase subscriber numbers. 

Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav had other ideas, though, pulling the plug on Batgirl and deciding Blue Beetle should be released in theaters. 

The movie is currently eyeing a so-so $30 million opening weekend, but we may be looking at a rare hit for DC should it prove to have legs. James Gunn, who said The Flash was "one of the greatest superhero movies ever made," has previously hyped Blue Beetle by saying, "the first DCU character, for sure, is Blue Beetle."

However, it seemingly isn't set in the DCU as Gunn later added that Superman: Legacy is "the first full DCU movie." Confused yet? Well, doing little to clear things up is the fact Blue Beetle director Angel Manuel Soto has confirmed his movie is tied to 2013's Man of Steel

"Waking up in Mexico to the news that [Zack] Snyder wants to see it too, a director that I respect so much, that his films are an immense influence," the filmmaker told Nestor Bentancor when asked about his fellow filmmaker's recent endorsement. "Even in 'Blue Beetle,' there are some references to 'Man of Steel' that we made out of honor and respect for the work and art of Zack Snyder."

This somewhat contradicts Soto's previous comments about Blue Beetle fitting into the DCU with ease (due to what were previously suspected to be vague references to other DC characters like Batman and Superman). 

It could be that he's just trying to appeal to DCEU and SnyderVerse fans - the cast not being able to promote the movie isn't going to help its opening weekend - but these constant contradictions are doing little to help build excitement for the new DCU. That was evident from last week's Wonder Woman debacle. 

Blue Beetle opens in theaters this Friday, August 18.

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Super12
Super12 - 8/14/2023, 6:07 AM
My faith in WB has not changed one bit. Not before Gunn, not after Gunn. They will always find a way to self-sabotage.
Moriakum
Moriakum - 8/14/2023, 6:31 AM
I don't think even Gunn knows what the DCU is and who will be part of it. Instead of dropping the rest of the DCEU movies on HBO Max and doing a complete reboot, no, they prefer to continue to create confusion. Even Superman: Legacy is already starting to seem too filled with secondary characters that will only be there to sell future projects. I have a feeling the DCU isn't going to last long, like everything else at DC hasn't lasted in the last decade.
eagc1995
eagc1995 - 8/14/2023, 11:52 AM
@Moriakum - Dropping them to Max is not in the cards, as Zaslav has made it clear he doesn't want big budget movies to be dumped in HBO Max, its cinemas or tax write off
elgaz
elgaz - 8/14/2023, 6:40 AM
Gunn really should have went for a clean break. New casting for everyone. New stories. No references to Snyder's universe. He made it sound like that was the plan but as time goes on, it appears obvious it isn't - they're retaining Gal Gadot, don't see any announcements about Miller or Momoa leaving roles, new movies are still making references to Snyder-era, and so on. It's getting messy.
IronSpider101
IronSpider101 - 8/14/2023, 6:55 AM
This could mean homages rather than straight up reference to the events.

But also that seems to be why he was clear on "First DCU Character" and not "First DCU movie". He's keeping the actor and the take, but ditching the DCEU ties.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 8/14/2023, 7:14 AM
It's quite clear that it's not actually part of James Gunn's proposed Universe despite him claiming it is, is primarily just a method to attract people to see a film they know nobody is interested in.
eagc1995
eagc1995 - 8/14/2023, 11:55 AM
@Scarilian - Could also simply be him saying they will use the character and they will use the actor, but the movie itself won't be part of it.

So Jaime in the DCU will just be a variant of the version we see in this movie.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 8/14/2023, 5:47 PM
@eagc1995 -
If they were going to use the character or the actor in any early films in his proposed universe they'd have stated it. He's specifically made sure to be contradictory with his terminology, implying Blue Beetle is the first of his universes characters, not the actor - some have speculated its going to tease a different Blue Beetle at the end - e.g. Dan Garrett or Ted Kord.

In which case Gunn's universe would adapt a different version of the Blue Beetle, with the events of this movie not being referenced but potentially the same Scarab.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 8/14/2023, 7:26 AM
Seems here and there that Gunn doesn’t really know where the DCEU ends and the DCU begins
Order66
Order66 - 8/14/2023, 7:53 AM
This movie is not DCU. End of story. DCU starts with either creature commandos or Superman: Legacy.
Forthas
Forthas - 8/14/2023, 8:09 AM
Well Man of Steel is the only great thing to come out of the DCEU so I don't blame him. As long as there is no reference to BVS, JL, The Flash, or WW1984.
RockBottom
RockBottom - 8/14/2023, 8:18 AM
I was afraid of this. I was concerned when they first mentioned Batman in that first trailer. This has been the trap they keep falling into when they try to be a connected universe. It didn’t work than, it’s not gonna work now. It’s like they don’t have a lotta faith in this movie to stand out its own so let’s throw in some references to MOS. Well now we know how this is gonna play out and this isn’t part of Gunn’s new DCU. Or is it? I don’t know 🤷‍♂️ I don’t think even the studios themselves know either. And that’s also frustrating because they’re just confusing people.
BeNice123
BeNice123 - 8/14/2023, 8:27 AM
I just don’t understand why the need to put snyderverse into it… smdh…
DetectiveCinema
DetectiveCinema - 8/14/2023, 9:58 AM
Despite Josh’s lacklustre journalism and poorly constructed article. It is abundantly clear that, based on Soto’s quote, Blue Beetle is not “tied” to Man of Steel the way Josh is alluding to.

Just like The Dark Knight isn’t tied to Heat, just drawing inspiration from it.

People are needlessly making it confusing for themselves. Instead of waiting for Josh to churn out another useless article, why don’t people just wait and see? Gunn doesn’t need to clarify anything right now, just let him cook.
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 8/14/2023, 10:05 AM
If Superman already exists in the DCU, it would stand to reason his exploits would be, somewhat, similar to DCEU Superman. I'm sure it's not a major plot-hole.
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 8/14/2023, 10:09 AM
The actor is getting carried over to the new Universe. This movie is tied to the old continuity, not the new one. Gunn has been very insistent that the Beginning of the DC Universe is Superman: Legacy (Film) and Creature Commandos (Television).
Arthorious
Arthorious - 8/14/2023, 10:12 AM
Make Blue beetle and Aquaman the last of the DCEU. Zero ties to the old regime to clear up the confusion.
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 8/14/2023, 10:48 AM
@Arthorious -


I think Gunn has been intentionally coy/ straight up lying about these films so they make SOME money before torching the old universe.
Arthorious
Arthorious - 8/14/2023, 1:14 PM
@HulkisHoly - I could see that as a possibility for sure
MrDandy
MrDandy - 8/14/2023, 10:48 AM
That’s because this 100% will not be tied to the DCU. This is DCEU and anyone official saying it isn’t is lying through their teeth to get more butts in seats.
eagc1995
eagc1995 - 8/14/2023, 11:50 AM
"Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav had other ideas, though, pulling the plug on Batgirl and deciding Blue Beetle should be released in theaters. "

Actually the decision to give Blue Beetle a theatrical release was made by the old leadership in Dec 2021, Zaslav wouldn't take over until March-April 2022.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 8/14/2023, 1:17 PM
James is so full of shit is not even funny at this point.
quas95
quas95 - 8/15/2023, 3:19 AM
People can't just wait and see how it plays out huh? Just whining and bashing all the time. The movie hasn't come out yet. Confusing for sure but we'll only know the quality of the DCU once Legacy comes out. Until then Gunn hasn't screwed the pooch. If anything I see some of his contradictory statements as a way to make money on the plans he was 100% in control over.
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