Who sides with who in next summers Captain America Civil War

Who sides with who in next summers Captain America Civil War

Hello all, with these Set Pics dropping daily I’ve been thinking a lot about where each member of the MCU would side in Civil War. I’ve had a few discussions about this topic in the comment sections but nothing this comprehensive.

Editorial Opinion
By speedyg33 - May 19, 2015 09:05 PM EST
There are at least 25 possible characters’ to consider for inclusion in this film. It would be a chore to read an article that large. Therefore I decided to break it into 3 parts.

Current Avengers   -   New Allies/Wildcards   -   Government/TV

First a quick explanation how I’m forming my opinions. I am a Marvel Unlimited Member. So before I wrote this editorial I reread anything available pertaining to Civil War. Just to give me a solid foundation of the event. I also view this movie as the MCU interpretation of Civil War. Keeping that in mind some of these characters’ motivations may differ from their comic book versions. Therefore I’m basing my choices on how they have been portrayed on screen up to this point.  And taking into account who may be missing due to MCU not have certain rights. So lets go.

I’m assuming you’ve seen AoU

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Part 1
The Avengers


This includes everyone who stood with Cap at the end of AoU, plus Hawkeye. I originally had Hawkeye somewhere else. But recent set photos show him with the team on the Atlanta/ Africa set. So I consider him very much unretired.

Falcon: Sam makes it clear in TWS that he goes where Cap goes. Falcon respects Steve and they share that bond men who have been in combat share. It’s a no brainer Falcon will be by Caps side until the end.
Opinion: 100% on Captains side.

War Machine:  War Machine will be on Iron Mans side, but it’s not the same as Falcon’s loyalty to Cap. Coronal Rhodes is Tony’s close friend, but first and for most he is a soldier and soldiers follow orders. Multiple times in Iron Man 2 Rodney was willing to fight Tony when Iron Man chose to go against the military. This is how I see it.  War Machine is more pro-registration than pro-Iron Man.
Opinion: 100% on Iron Man’s side.

The Scarlet Witch: She’s new to the team but comes with a ton of life changing experiences. Her family was killed by devices created by Stark Industry. She was experimented on by Hydra. Then used by Ultron in a way that ultimately lead to her brother’s death. Wanda has chosen to play nice with the Avengers but this girl is bound to have trust issues.  In AoU Wanda peered into both Tony and Caps mind. She understands how both men think maybe better than they do themselves. Only the Vision siding with Tony could make her choose Ironman’s cause. So in the end allowing the government or shield to oversee the lives of enhanced beings?  Not a chance.
Opinion: 95% with Captain America 5% Iron Man.

The Vision: Prior to viewing AoU I could have seen Vision being 100% with Tony. I mean he was Jarvis after all. Then I saw the movie and learned that Thor was the Avenger who shared a relationship with Vision not Iron Man. The Vision is no longer Jarvis and that loyal connection with Tony is gone. They both still share analytical thought though. So depending on what the government’s plan is. The Vision may view it as what’s best for mankind.  I still think his compassionate side will lead to a strong connection with Wanda.  Ultimately she will keep him with Cap.  I’m going 75/25 because I don’t see them splitting up Scarlett Witch and Vision.
Opinion: 75% Captain America, 25% Iron Man.

Black Widow: As one of the non-powered members of the Avengers Nat knows the destruction her super teammates can create. This will ultimately have a bearing on her choice. Black Widow is going to leave Cap and join Iron Man. Her relationship with Steve will make this defection a dramatic moment in the story. I also think it’s a numbers game and Iron Man needs another Avenger on his team. Plus maybe just maybe a certain Big Guy returns and reforms the Science Bros. I’m not all in with team Iron Man though because of the Fury angle. He’s the one person she seems to be completely loyal to. Maybe she’s a mole?
Opinion: 90% Iron Man 10% Captain America

Hawkeye: The most complex character in my entire article parts 1 through 3. I have changed my position on Barton more times than I can count. The introduction of his family is huge. In the novelization of Civil War Peter Parker plays an important role. He represents the importance of secret identity. When his identity is exposed his family is put in danger. Now Peter is a Child in this movie. So this role won’t be his to play. Hawkeye and another character I discuss later are the logical choices to carry this plot point in MCU’s Civil War. What happens to the Barton family will define Clint’s role. Tony’s actions possibly expose them to a danger like Crossbones, or maybe Winter Soldier uses them as a tactical advantage against Cap. We’ve also heard a rumor he fights Black Panther. Could this fight end badly and sideline him all together.  Hawkeye may even make a preemptive strike and take himself out of the conflict all together, thus choosing to stay home to protect his family.
Opinion:  I’m going 45% Cap 45% Ironman and 10% neutral.

Well that’s it for part one. Hope you enjoyed it.  This is my first effort to contribute here on the site. Constructive criticism is welcomed.  I love CBM’s and quality debate about them.  

Part 2 New Allies/Wildcards
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WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 5/19/2015, 10:56 PM
I just don't see Widow following government orders anymore. It would be a step back character development wise. She wants to be a better person and do the right thing to try to make up for all the wrongs she's committed. Following SHIELDs orders just to find out they were HYDRA, she will have some trust issues. No, she won't go back. Even if siding with Cap is illegal, she would still feel it's the right thing to do.

Even though what Iron Man's doing from a point of view is the right thing, it's the whole someone else telling you who the bad guys are that I don't see being ok with her anymore.

From a civilian point of view, I would see registration as the right thing to do. Cops don't have secret identities so why should these superheroes I would think. Some of them are inexperienced and reckless and do more harm than good others would say.

From a superheroes point of view, if I was one, why would I want someone else to tell me who is bad, who is good, I'm not a soldier so I shouldn't have to follow orders. I have my ideal, my own mission, and my loved ones to protect from my enemies. So why would I register, give up my identity and risk those things?

Nobody is the bad guy in this story. It's a war and wars ALWAYS go too far. The good can do bad things not realizing they crossed a line. That's why I loved this book. Hopefully the films similar.
Reasonnnn
Reasonnnn - 5/19/2015, 11:05 PM
I like the idea of Vision taking Doctor Strange's role in the comics and just be neutral.

VictorMancha
VictorMancha - 5/20/2015, 1:04 AM
You forget Spiderman, Ant-Man, Black Panther and maybe Doctor Strange
sjoerdo0
sjoerdo0 - 5/20/2015, 3:48 AM
cap
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 5/20/2015, 5:48 AM
Considering that Hawkeye is already registered with the government, i could see him going either way.

However, just because he's already with the government doesn't mean he will agree with what they are doing by forcing people to register though.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 5/20/2015, 6:03 AM
Most superheroes would obviously be biased towards anti registration. That's even what happened in the book. Forcing Stark to get desperate and start to use villains on his team. But both sides brought murderers onto their teams. Ragnarok killed Bill Foster, and Punisher killed several villains that were trying to do good. K, well Jester and Jack o Lantern didn't really plan on doing any good, but Punisher still murdered them.
PAF
PAF - 5/20/2015, 6:10 AM
@WYLEEJAY Exactly.

Idk why people think BW is going to side with Stark. She sided with him in the comics but this is the MCU. I mean she told congress off at the end of Cap2. All that good she thought she was doing under SHIELD is tainted because of HYDRA's involvement. She's not gonna trust the government any time soon. Widow also leaked all those files. She don't give a [frick].

Her narrative in the films so far is figuring out who she is and becoming more than just a tool. In Avengers, it finally hit her how much "evil" she has done and she hasn't done enough good to make up for it. In Cap2 she finds out the good she's done has probably been more bad since finding out HYDRA was inside of SHIELD. In AoU, Widow realizes her true calling, to be an Avenger. If they were to make her side with Tony, it would seriously be a huge step back for her character. The only way I could see her on Tony's side is if, as you mentioned, if she were a mole. I doubt it though.

The one person I definitely see going with Iron Man is Hawkeye.

WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 5/20/2015, 6:47 AM
Right on. To keep his family's secret he may not have a choice but to side with Tony. Hopefully those rumors about his family and Crossbones are not true.
speedyg33
speedyg33 - 5/20/2015, 7:29 AM
@VictorMancha Patience my young padawan they will be addressed in part 2
speedyg33
speedyg33 - 5/20/2015, 8:26 AM
The general consensus is that either Hawkeye or Black Widow will be with Ironman. They are the closest thing to a Family that we have in the MCU. (We had the twins. Damm you Whedon!!) Going back to the books The FF filled this role. Nat and Clint being on opposite sides drives home the emotional divide.


@WYLEEJAY @PAF I hear what your both saying about where BW’s story arc is right now. I could argue that movie Tony doesn’t fit with the gung ho registration/ work with the government idea either. I guess in the end my personal bias is coming into play and I’d badly want Hawkeye with Cap. I prefer the character. He has always been a favorite of mine. I don’t want to spoil the rest of my article but where Fury ends up I still feel will influence both Hawkeye and Black Widow.
MisterSuperior
MisterSuperior - 5/20/2015, 9:27 AM
This is sorta deja vu....I could have sworn I read a 'Part 1' once regarding who sides with who in CW but a 'Part 2' never came.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 5/20/2015, 9:41 AM
speedyg33
speedyg33 - 5/20/2015, 10:21 AM
@MisterSuperior not sure who's article that was. But I promise I'm editing part 2.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 5/20/2015, 10:49 AM
KITTIES!!!
MisterSuperior
MisterSuperior - 5/20/2015, 10:54 AM
@speedyg33

I have no doubt you will as this looks legit....the one I'm mentioning felt like it was done within one minute without any thought.
McGee
McGee - 5/20/2015, 12:26 PM
I'll side with anyone who'll let me put my fingers in their mouth...
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 5/20/2015, 1:17 PM
Civil War is a very human driven story. So Vision shouldn't really understand what their fighting about. So since we know he is in it, we can only assume he would follow who he feels the most loyal too. So yeah he used to be JARVIS, but he only fought at Iron Man's side for a very short time as Vision. He fought side by side with Caps Avengers for at least a year. Plus has he developed feelings for Wanda by now? Cause if he has he would probably follow her wherever she went. So who would she side with?
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 5/20/2015, 1:19 PM
I guess the only ones we can say for sure are War Machine and Falcon at this point. I know where I think Widow SHOULD go, but we don't know how complicated the situation is yet.
VulpezPanzer
VulpezPanzer - 5/20/2015, 5:03 PM
Maybe off topic here, but I think Vision and Wanda will have an actual connection since they are both influenced by the Mind Stone.
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