Identity Crisis

Identity Crisis

After a slew of disappointing films and failed TV series, is the future of DC Comics' live action offerings in serious trouble?

Editorial Opinion
By TheQuestion - Jun 19, 2011 10:06 PM EST
Filed Under: DC Comics



Things have not been great for the combined entity of DC Comics and her parent company Time Warner, specifically the Warner Brothers film division, which releases all feature films, direct to video, and television programs based on DC characters. Now, when I say "not great", I actually mean "abysmal". I can't really sugar-coat the matter. DC is in a crisis that would imperil even the most stalwart superhero. Recent failures in the fields of cinema and television have made it clear that DC/WB needs saving, and perhaps this time it may be too difficult a challenge for Superman or Batman to overcome.

With such uneven projects we have to ask if DC/WB even knows what they're doing anymore, or if they ever did in the first place. Is this an entity with direction, vision, identity? Or are we watching the free-fall of what could have been a cinematic giant?

The jury has issued the verdict on DC/WB's big (and only) summer offering 'Green Lantern', and it's grim. Critically panned and financially under-performing ($52.6 million opening weekend), 'Green Lantern' is simply looking green around the gills, and it seems like all the will power in the world won't be enough to save it. Unfortunately, this is becoming an all too familiar sight. The average gross for a DC Comics-based film is a paltry $31 million. Critically, the films haven't faired much better. The notable, well-received films (Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, V for Vendetta) have been by-and-large outweighed by the critically panned (Catwoman, Superman Returns, Jonah Hex, Green Lantern) and the mediocre (The Losers, Red, Watchmen). In short, it's been rough for anyone not lucky enough to be named Batman or directed by Christopher Nolan.

What we begin to see is a pattern of disappointing box office returns and misfired productions. Meanwhile, DC/WB's top competitor, Marvel Studios, has cornered the market, and is now backed by the incredible might of Disney. While DC has tried to bring diverse films from both the core DCU and their Vertigo imprint, they simply haven't been able to resonate with movie-goers the way Marvel has. I'm not trying to stir up the bad blood between DC and Marvel fanboys. However, I have to compare the companies to give everyone a sense on how badly DC has dropped the ball. Let this sink in; Marvel's 'Thor' grossed more money and got better reviews than 'Superman Returns'. I'll say it again, 'Thor', based on a relatively obscure Marvel character grossed more than 'Superman', a character every person on the planet knows. Clearly, Marvel is doing something right and DC/WB is doing something very, very wrong.

One thing Marvel has going for them is cohesion. They have a clear continuity and vision for their film universe. This gives Marvel an identity, and more importantly, a brand. Movie-goers can look at that red logo and get an immediate sense of what they can expect. DC/WB simply has not followed suit. They felt it would be better if every film stood on its own, and we now see the result. Each film has different producers and creative teams, and perhaps due to that each production has such wildly varying quality. A Batman film feels totally different than a Superman film, and a Superman film feels totally different from something like Watchmen. Half of the DC films attempt to be burly actioneers while the other half want to be serious character studies. They often fail at being good at either.

While, it's unclear if a Marvel-like continuity is what DC/WB needs, they could stand to benefit from the production teams having more oversight and unity across films. Marvel built their world on the back of their most successful film with Iron Man. Maybe DC/WB should have done the same with Batman Begins, or what fans have dubbed the "Nolanverse". Instead of the DC logo being associated with taut direction and great storytelling, it is now associated with wildly uneven productions. Missed opportunity? Uh, yeah.



As bad as things have been for DC/WB in theaters, it has been even worse when it comes to television. Hit series 'Smallville' just wrapped up its 10th and final season. Even the most enthusiastic 'Smallville' fan would tell you the show went through some rough seasons, and probably should have ended sooner. But who could blame Warner for milking it for all it was worth? Other attempts at adapting DC material for television have been utter failures.

'Birds of Prey' had the cojones to play in Batman's backyard without delivering on anything that made that world worth watching, namely Batman himself. The same mistake was almost made again just a short time ago as Warner was looking to develop a series based on Dick Grayson, prior to meeting Bruce Wayne and becoming Robin. That was scuttled in the scripting phase. There was also 'Mercy Reef', a Smallville-esque show based on Aquaman that shot a pilot that was never aired. Ouch. They also had so little faith in a live action 'Wonder Woman' series they leased the rights to a competing network with NBC, which pulled the plug on the show before the pilot even aired. Ouch again.

Somehow, DC/WB seems even more clueless at TV than they are at film. Once again, it's a lack of direction, cohesion, and identity. Given recent failures at the company, I imagine most of the big decision makers will be replaced. Maybe that is for the best. Someone has to be held responsible. There are too many failed projects, too much money lost, and too many dejected fans. The viability of DC as a multimedia force is at jeopardy. No amount of rebooting can fix their sullied image. The change has to happen at the core level.

The only thing I fear is that it may be too late. Nolan is wrapping up his Batman trilogy, and the franchise will be rebooted afterwards. Zach Snyder, fresh off the turkey that was 'Sucker Punch', is rebooting Superman with 'Man of Steel'. These are the only two films on the horizon for DC, and the future success of DC/WB is hinged completely on them. If they both don't deliver, DC/WB will have lost the superhero film arms race to Marvel. Any economist will tell you competition is good for industry, so we fans should fear a possible vacuum created by the lack of presence from DC/WB.

Perhaps paramount to all, we want to see the rich mythology of DC Comics given proper due in live action. We know that the joy of seeing larger than life characters in the corporeal helps to make fandom what it is. It generates interest, and revenue, into the comics we love so dearly, and we gain a richer experience because of it. Can DC pull itself off the floor and get back in the game? Well, that's the hard question. We all eagerly await the answer.
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Coloso
Coloso - 6/19/2011, 11:49 PM
@TheQuestion, this is one of the best logical and concise arguments about what is wrong with the WB/DC cinematic universe I have heard. It's too bad DC apologist's will rip you to shreds rather than acknowledge that DC has failed to properly translate their stable of properties not named Batman/Superman.

Again well reasoned and I hope you stick around this site as we could do with insightful commentary that sparks respectful debate, cheers :)
LP4
LP4 - 6/20/2011, 12:20 AM
@TheQuestion- Nice article, now here's my thoughts...it is DC/WB's own faults. Especially WB. They couldn't make a decent live-action film if their LIVES depended on it. The only one they've gotten right so far is Batman and even HE they [frick]ed up twice.

WB [frick]ed up even with Smallville. I just can't trust Warner anymore with comicbook stuff. They have no respect for the comics or the fans. They are just as bad, if not WORSE than FOX.

As for the above films...yeah I wouldn't put GL next to SR. Green Lantern definitely had many flaws but it was nowhere near as bad as Superman Returns. A nearly 3 hour love-letter to richard donner, where Superman never even threw a punch.

Thor did make more money than Superman Returns...because THOR ACTUALLY FOUGHT SOMEONE.

The only way WB could possibly [frick] up on Superman again would be if they...yet again...left out any sort of action in the film. Superman HAS to fight. If he doesn't again, he'll come off as a total douchebag.

My message to WB- Superman is an ACTION SUPERHERO. Not some whiney, pansy-boy with abandonment-issues.

@TheQuestion- Again nice article dude and summary of all the mistakes WB has made.
Ghostfire
Ghostfire - 6/20/2011, 12:31 AM
@TheQuestion

Coloso is dead on and I agree. This one of the best articles that I have read on this site. Logical, concise and not to mention unbiased.

And your right, about what is wrong with the WB/DC cinematic universe. It's failing at every turn despite how much money is being pumped into different projects. Besides the TDK, which really doesnt count because it's "Nolanverse", its the only property that hasn't failed them.

But I believe that in order for DC to get a hit they might to take a page from Marvel's book. Have a shared universe,and ground/modernize the characters. Have somebody in charge that knows what they are doing. And have the directors work together so that the movies have continuity.

And the end of the day, DC is only hurting themselves, but us, the fans, suffer as well. By not taking the time and putting effort to other characters just because they are not Batman or Superman is plainly idiotic.
Caedus137
Caedus137 - 6/20/2011, 3:41 AM
I'm a bit of a DC fanboy, to the extent that I'm literally covered in Batman and Superman tattoos... As characters, I'd pick Superman over Spiderman, Batman over Iron Man, and Green Lantern over Captain America any day. However - I simply CANNOT claim that DC have everything under control, they know exactly what they're doing, and it'll all come good in the end. I worry about the future chances of ever seeing the JLA, the Flash, Hawkman etc up on the big screen when even Green Lantern can't pull in an audience... Take GL and Flash - If people dont buy ito a Corps of intergalactic peace keepers with magic rings who fly around the universe fighting evil aliens, what chance has "a guy who can run pretty fast" got??? None, in my opinion.
Caedus137
Caedus137 - 6/20/2011, 3:54 AM
Tea - Yeah, point... Maybe I just worded it wrong... But I kinda meant in terms of scale - not necessarily bankability... Surely GL would seem a more exciting prospect than Flash for the average film goer?

I liken the DC thing to watching your favorite team get beat every week - you still love and support them, but you cant help but lose faith a bit...
Caedus137
Caedus137 - 6/20/2011, 4:27 AM
Yeah, they do seem to be going full steam with animated features when the argument could be posed that the time, effort and money could have been put to better use in the live action arena...? But thats up to them, I suppose!!!
marvel72
marvel72 - 6/20/2011, 5:10 AM
@ thequestion

excellent well written article.

dc ain't having much luck of late,its shame because they've got fantastic characters that deserve movie treatment.

why did the green lantern fail to deliver,on paper it sounded promising.

-ryan reynolds as hal jordan
-mark strong as sinestro
-martin campbell director of (goldeneye,casino royale & the mask of zorro)
-geoff johns co producer

its pretty much down to the writers & the director,i think the only way to save their franchises is to do after the dark knight rises is.

-reboot the whole dc universe,superman maybe alright but they should do what marvel is doing with the shared universe have a goal to work to.

or

let other film studios make their movies,see what they'll come up with.
Caedus137
Caedus137 - 6/20/2011, 5:12 AM
Smallville did seem to go from peak to trough virtually week on week, like... Personally, I'm a fan!!! I loved the show, but for every great episode like "Rosetta" featuring Christopher Reeve, there was another like "Stilletto" which saw Lois try her hand at being a Superhero... Which, needless to say was utter bollocks...
Many (possibly you, Tea?) have said that if they cut the s.hit and focused on the core episodes which actually drove the narrative rather than rely on light-hearted "fillers" it would have been so much better received and so much better thought of.
TheQuestion
TheQuestion - 6/20/2011, 5:56 AM
Thanks for the love, guys. Excuse any typos I didn't catch. I wrote this around 12am and I was a bit tired. I'm really concerned about DC's recent output. This is a company who's comics are known for great writing and epic stories, and I don't understand how their cinematic offering could be so inferior to their comics.

@LP4: I haven't seen Green Lantern yet, so I was basing my opinion on reviews and box office numbers. I'll have to catch it during a $5 matinee to make a judgement for myself. I was actually really digging the last few trailers. I was pretty excited for the film.
Caedus137
Caedus137 - 6/20/2011, 5:57 AM
Tea - Yeah, as a fellow Brit I agree mate!

supersayianfan1 - That was always Smallville's problem - consistency. We had it good, we had it mediocre, and we had it out and out terrible...
Caedus137
Caedus137 - 6/20/2011, 6:07 AM
Tea - Hahaha!!! Cheers dude, you too man...
TheQuestion
TheQuestion - 6/20/2011, 6:11 AM
I have to agree with you guys on Smallville. I LOVED the first couple of seasons. Then something started going terribly wrong. I got the feeling they never quite knew what direction they wanted to go in. I bailed when Lana developed witch powers. I've only seen a few episodes over the last few season and they have ranged from pleasant to terrible. And that series finally was a god damn abortion.
Ethic
Ethic - 6/20/2011, 6:15 AM
I could've sworn Green Lantern was the film that would pick up the slack, I was basically certain.
I went to see it yesterday and it was shockingly bad.
I was bored out of my mind for over an hour and it was just so badly put together for numerous reasons.

You're totally right about mentioning the need for core changes in how they're approaching the DC universe.
I don't necessarily think a shared universe is the way to go, but they have to salvage what they can now, because there's something seriously wrong going on.

I love DC just as much as I love Marvel and it's genuinely sickening seeing characters that I know are amazing failing in the film world.

I'm also scared for the Superman film for the simple reason that I'm not convinced Snyder can capture the heart of Superman AS WELL as the action.
We all know he's going to blow us away visually but whether or not he can get the audience to empathise and care for him is another story.
Caedus137
Caedus137 - 6/20/2011, 7:08 AM
ZeroEthic - Yeah, I agree... Say what you like about Smallville - but in my opinion it did give us a better 'feel' for the character of Clark Kent, more so than we had ever seen on screen before... It allowed us to understand his motives and empathise with him to a greater extent than previously. I too wonder whether Zac Snyder can capture this in 1 movie. Again - just my opinion.

Actually - thats a ridiculous thing for me to have said!!! Of course he won't be able to capture 10 years worth of... of... you know - "Clarkness" in 1 movie. The best we can hope for is a likeable guy with a fair mix of humility and strength.
Caedus137
Caedus137 - 6/20/2011, 7:49 AM
The cast for Man Of Steel looks promising so far... I'm exicted about Michael Shannon and intrigued to see how Henry Cavill does...
Between M.O.S and TDKRises, 2012 is shaping up better than 2011 for DC - but thats precisely the conundrum - relying on Batman and Superman again!!!
marvel72
marvel72 - 6/20/2011, 8:01 AM
batman will make up the money they lost on the green lantern.
LP4
LP4 - 6/20/2011, 8:14 AM
@Caedus- Hahahah true I love your last statement, sounds like a movie narrator saying something like-

"When Green Lantern has failed...and all hope is lost. The fate of DC cinema rests on the shoulders of...BATMAN AND SUPERMAN ONCE AGAIN"

LOL
Caedus137
Caedus137 - 6/20/2011, 8:25 AM
LP4 - Haha! Well it's kinda true! Batman and Superman are like safety nets for DC, just like Marvel72 said, Batman will pick up the slack for Green Lantern. TDKR will make f.ucking billions worldwide and DC exec's will all get a massive Xmas bonus...
AreTudaEDub
AreTudaEDub - 6/20/2011, 8:31 AM
I want a reboot/sequel like "the Incredible Hulk" (better of course). Directed by the Wachowski Brothers with a Jonathan Nolan screenplay. Weta on sfx. They would have to used Kyle Rayner, set it slightly in the future, and briefly cover how he is the last Green Lantern. The sequel would be an adaption of Rebirth....and if later they beside to do it, make prequels if the want to get into back story (in the same vain as first class). YOU WOULD NOT GO WRONG!!!!!

BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 6/20/2011, 8:40 AM
Great article! If it were up to me, this would definitely make the main page. I hadn't really realized how badly DC was failing, but you put i nto perspective and I totally agree. I truly hope that they don't drop the all on Superman. Unfortunatel, with the way Green Lantern turned out, it's feeling more up in the air whether or not they'll do a good job.
LP4
LP4 - 6/20/2011, 9:08 AM
@Caedus- True, it's ALWAYS...on Batman particularly. Even Superman they have yet to nail properly since 1982

thunderforce
thunderforce - 6/20/2011, 12:37 PM
Who is running things there if it is the studio guys and not the comics guys I could see fail written all over that it shouldn't be too hard to see what Marvel is doing and do some of the same .
incrediblesuperbatspider
incrediblesuperbatspider - 6/20/2011, 6:08 PM
DC animated films are amazing and far ahead of anything marvel has to offer.
incrediblesuperbatspider
incrediblesuperbatspider - 6/20/2011, 6:08 PM
DC animated films are amazing and far ahead of anything marvel has to offer.
marvel72
marvel72 - 6/20/2011, 6:45 PM
@ dromeo

you're right,but i think people want to see live action more than animation these days.
JorEl77
JorEl77 - 6/20/2011, 8:13 PM
The DC animated films are awesome.But there is one problem,most of them are Batman & Superman.Out of the films since 2007,we only got 2 Green Lantern movies & a Wonder Woman movie.I want animated movies of Green Arrow,The Flash,Martian Manhunter,Aquaman,Hawkman/Hawkgirl,The Legion of Superheroes,and so on.I wanna see Deathstroke,Bizzaro,Darkseid,Brainiac,The Joker,Scarecrow,and some other different villians in the animated movies too.But I also want these in live action movies also.I think if they adapted the Wonder Woman animated movie into live action with about 30 more minutes of story added in,it would be perfect.And I want a shared universe too.I was just hoping we would be shocked and see a cameo with Superman in the Green Lantern movie..but of course that didn't happen.
incrediblesuperbatspider
incrediblesuperbatspider - 6/20/2011, 8:49 PM
I think the biggest problem with DCs green lantern was that they were trying to play it safe and went through the motions in the movie, the story was so damn generic and disjointed. For example, Hals first fight with Hector, he just shows up out of nowhere, and we're left scratching our heads thinking, where the eff did he come from?...It's easy to blame it on the writers, but I wager that the suits in Warner bros. wanted a shorter movie that was similar in tone to iron man so that they can rake in money. When the dvd comes out, I bet there will be a directors cut that will be superior to the mess we saw in theaters. When the studios get involved, many things are compromised, such as a coherent story.
TheQuestion
TheQuestion - 6/21/2011, 7:02 AM
I wish DC's live action stuff was on par with their animation. But like JorEl said, they still rely on Batman and Superman a lot for those as well. That's why Green Lantern was such an important movie. It was supposed to prove that DC could have success with a character outside of Batman and Superman. It was to be their "Iron Man", but it fell very, very short.
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